WILD Technique, for beginners and before sleep.

**ThreeCat** · 05-13-2015 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Looke

You just need focus... I dream a lot the minute I fall asleep in non-REM and instantly wake up after. I am very aware that WILD seemingly fails a lot before bed. However if you visit an Astral Projection/OBE forum you here many people talk of WILDing/Phasing or the same method but having much more success at bed. I feel people have been put off. The mind is more powerful than hearsay...Just my opinion.

Looke (:

I don't think sleep cycles are hearsay. If we are all enjoying WILD at bedtime, when exactly are we falling into deep sleep/dreamless sleep? I would be interested to see how many users can have successful bedtime WILDs using this technique; based on personal experience of FAC at bedtime, as well as the science and literature supporting it, I would say the success rate would be rather low.

The technique itself reminds me of Thomas Yuschak's "seeding" technique described in his book and sounds very interesting. But this technique will be much more fruitful practiced on a WBTB, or in the last few hours before waking. Just like any other WILD technique.

**DenMorke** · 01-07-2016 09:14 PM

Looke hi.

A dumb questiom from a rookie. Can we call it visuaçization and/or hipnagognic halucinations those low defined images that appear in the back of our eyelids, mainly black with greyish-dark contourns?

**nordinloves** · 01-09-2016 02:08 PM

for how long do you need to visualize??

**Spock** · 01-16-2016 09:09 PM

Just found this thread! This technique worked really well for me in my teens, but I knew it as VILD (V for visualization), and found it elsewhere, although this description is much better!

On a related note, another wild technique also uses visualizations but incubates the visualization (and keeps it the same for all attempts). It goes by the names WILD, VILD, and IILD (for incubation) - but regardless how you call these forms of WILD, they are worthwhile to try.

Haven't done this one in a really long time! Will give it a try today.

DenMorke,

The things you describe are HH (hypnagogic hallucinations) and they usually form on their own. Focusing on them is not a good idea, usually leads to only increasing their effect and tensing you out. These should be ignored, playing in the background, if they appear.

Looke refers to pre-dreams which also form sometimes before the real dream. In regular WILD, as Looke said in the original post, you should just watch them play out and wait for the actual dream.

Looke's method (VILD) differs from regular WILD in that you essentially "fake" a pre-dream by creating an artificial visualization. By slightly "interacting" with it you make it like a natural pre-dream, which helps you maintain lucidity and ignore HH, and that will lead into a real dream.

nordinloves,

It depends on your state and other factors. You shouldn't time things like that (because then you think "am I doing it too slow?", etc.), it's more of a feeling thing - you need to chose a very familiar setting, than visualize the familiar and short scene and if you're in the process of falling asleep, the visualization should start feeling more "real" which is when you interact with it. This is why Looke separates the process into "Relaxation, Creation, Interaction". You need to feel when the creation is ready, and only then you "run the scene" and interact with it.