New DILD Idea

**Sensei** · 04-08-2016 01:51 AM

Class Is Starting
Baller19572: Sensei!!!
He is raising his hand and interrupting class
Sensei: Yes, Baller19572?
Baller19572: Don’t we already have a million good DILD tutorials around here?
Sensei: Good question, not like you pay attention to any of them, you and your bad sleep schedule.
Sensei looks hard at the class
Sensei: What does DILD stand for? 1337GodofWar?
1337GodofWar: Dream Initiated Lucid Dream
Sensei: Yes, and what does this mean?
1337GodofWar: Any dream that one realizes that they are dreaming during the dream.
Sensei: Perfect. So this is actually not that. This is a Dream Induced Lucid Dream, more than likely a Lucid Dream Induced Lucid Dream, but we are just gonna stick with DILD for now.
Baller19572 and 1337GodofWar have puzzled looks on their faces.
Sensei: Have you ever had a lucid dream, that didn’t seem to happen because of something that you did outside the dream, but something you did from the inside? Say for instance you have a dream about rabbits one day, they are going around eating everything in their path, including humans, and you suddenly stop, your awareness makes you question your surroundings and then your mind suddenly remembers “DREAM”, so you become lucid. A dream that you become lucid due to memory is called?
Baller19572: MILD!
Sensei: Correct! Mnemonic Induced Lucid Dream. So you grab one of the rabbits, write the word “Dream” on the back of it, and then you make it 100 times its size and have it turn around and start eating the other rabbits. I am not judging what you do when lucid.
Sensei laughs and stops for a second, realizing that his joke fell flat. He coughs a little and starts talking again
Sensei: So, let’s say that in a later dream, maybe the same night, maybe in a week, you run into that rabbit again. It still has the word dream on it, and it jumps on you (because it loves you!!), causing you to slow down and realize that something is wrong. You wonder what it could be, and then the rabbit hops around and starts leaving. On the back of it, you see the word “Dream”. Now at the start you didn’t have enough of any type of awareness or memory to lucid dream, the rabbit did the whole thing. This isn’t induced from memory outside of a dream, this is because the dream itself made you lucid. A dream induced lucid dream.
The class is still silent. Sensei sighs and begins again.
Sensei: This is one that would be set up by you, but it could happen without you. Let’s take a step backward and look at a different one. If a random dream character runs up to me and grabs me and yells “YOU ARE DREAMING!!!” And I become lucid, then that is a Dream Induced Lucid Dream.
The class starts seems to get it
Sensei: So what we are looking for, is a way to cause this to happen. A way to actually make it a recurring thing, I want you to think on this and come back with an idea by Monday. Collaborate with the others in class so that we don’t have multiples, and I will see you then.

What Am I Even Talking About Now?
Okay, now that I am done being weird. Hopefully you read all of that, haha. The idea is simple, we have all had a dream before that has made us lucid, either due to previous dream actions, or because of what seems to just be day residue. I literally had a dream once that made me freak out so much, that I stopped and reality checked because I didn’t want it to be real, not because I thought that it wasn’t haha. There are lots of things that fall into this category, and most of them lean towards MILD, but what I am looking for is actually getting further away from MILD.
Dream Initiated Lucid Dream:
A dream that you realize that you are dreaming inside the dream, generally by MILD
Dream Induced Lucid Dream:
A dream that you realize that you are dreaming because of something that the dream does.

Instead of just hoping that the dream decides that it is going to always try to tell me that it is a dream. I am looking for a way to make this happen often.
I am full up on things in waking to do in order to lucid dream and am always adding and changing things, so I am going to be only looking for things to do inside of the dream to make myself lucid in the future.

Applying
A couple of ideas that I have had:

Finding the control room in my dream, and switching myself to always aware that I am dreaming.
Cutting off a body part in dream, I don’t like the idea of not being able to train with my whole body, but it might be a temporary fix while I get better at LDing.
Changing the color of a body part, or replacing it with beautiful robot hand. Like the last one, I would switch most of my daytime awareness to may hand or leg that I want with changing it a different color, I could change the weight, as well as if I had a robot hand
Creating a sidekick that is always with me, a small dragon, or maybe even something attached to me.
Changing all my dreams to False Awakenings
Making all my dreams one long chain of events, so that every dream starts where the last one ends.

Some of these are far fetched, but with persistent control, it should be possible to do something similar. Let me know what you all think as well as if you have any other suggestions. I am hoping to use this to either crazy supplement my LDing inducing, or to hack and make myself always lucid. Either would be awesome. Haha. I know that this is not a new idea, but I want to see if we can get consistent success with it.

**Hukif** · 04-08-2016 03:45 AM

You know, I actually had something like this some time ago.

Back when I had my first dream-kid Xildron he would tell me it was a dream, I would get mad and tell him to not tell me or else I would become lazy and not get lucid anymore.
Later on when I first moved over to my book world, had the same problem this time with Coco, some weird dream creature that would tell me to it was a dream, he got the same answer <.<

But you know? At least from experience it actually works. So good luck everyone!

**Sensei** · 01-03-2017 05:21 AM

I completely forgot about this thread, I have been looking ay different thread ideas to toss about and this was one of them. lol.

so! from OP
finding control room in dream and changing settings
didnt work. I think i was in a very non vivid space at the time tho, so i might try again
making all dreams a long chain.
I have managed to make all my dreams in zödra. fake memories and work, but now I am working on making everyone in zödra lucid all the time. Lots of success so far. will update on this and see later.

**Dexter33** · 01-03-2017 08:13 PM

Interesting distinction. This happens to me all the time!

Dream guides fall into this category, no? Any recurring theme at happens in the dream, and not mentally in your thoughts would be this kind of dream.

If I create a giant rabbit with dream written on it, it might help me get lucid. Yet there are two ways I could create this rabbit. One being explicity through dream control in the dream, and then second through simply thinking about this rabbit in my head until it appears in my dreams. So the distinction you're making here is that it is you create the association in the dream. You definitely need to create some kind of consistency that will constantly remind you in your dreams that your dreaming. Imo, that's almost the same thing as having your MILD-DILD

**oneironautics** · 01-03-2017 09:12 PM

isn't this similiar to Dcild, Dream Character Induced Lucid Dreaming (The DCILD Technique)
not so much the cutting of limbs, but maybe the bunny bit .

**Sensei** · 01-05-2017 11:57 AM

Dexter and oneironautics. Most techs are gonna be a mixture of different things.

they will all be either DILD or WILD tho.

Also, i have been contemplating making my world animated. The bunny idea was more of where i got the concept, not the plan.

**Vortaix** · 01-21-2017 01:04 PM

HI Sensei
I've just found your thread (great thread) and would like to leave valuable info.

About a year ago in a lucid that i've had, I came to the idea to spawn a marker from my pocket and write an L on my hand (so I dont get distracted while in the dream and lose my lucidity).
The interesting this is,
After that lucid ended, I woke up, went to the bathroom, drank some water, stuff like that AND when I fell asleep again I found an L on my hand in a NON lucid dream, and I instantly became lucid.

I believe dream world is more or less consistent, as in the past I've had about a week time of the SAME dream town every night over and over.
I hope you can make something out of this.
Cheers