Quote Originally Posted by NyxCC View Post
We might really be onto something. Now if we are able to replicate this...With what you've written above about the eyes it now seems close to certain third eye visualizations that may be used for wilding. It also sounds close to the vision/visualization tutorials here. Again, I am left wondering if the movement and position of the eyes plays a role.

It's really great that you guys have come across natural dreamers that have no knowledge of current techniques so we can read what works for them. There are many paths to lucidity.
Yep, hopefully we´ll get somewhere, like find a new induction technique (that'd be cool) or learn something about how the naturals do. I've been thinking, the key here might be the eyes movement but he told me he first thought of this method when one night he felt asleep consciously and felt as if his ears plugged (and eyes rolled), external sounds faded away and a (unstable) dream took place, in which he was lucid. This was the first time he felt the plugging, but he had felt the unplugging many times when waking up naturally. Thing is, I have never felt this unplugging of the senses when waking up, it seems like if his consciousness wakes up before his body does. Have you ever felt this sensation or know someone that has?