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      Llvlindless, I tried this technique and believe it or not it actually worked! Well...kind of, because I think I was only semi-lucid,if there is such a word. Here is how it went down. I spent the entire day with confidence that I would have a lucid dream, there were a few moments when I would say "I will become lucid" a few times in my head and even out loud a few times. I even had a banana and a glass of milk before I went to bed. My dreams were a bit more detailed, yet I was only able to remember a few bits and pieces, for example there was this one dream where I was sitting next to my dad in this truck and I was unloading this rifle. Anyway, the lucid dream occured during this false awakening when I was lying in my bed, and out of reflex I guess, I pinched my nose and I could breathe, which I thought was very peculiar so I pinched it harder and I could still breathe, so then I wondered "Am I dreaming?" And then I realized I was and tried to get out of bed, I had a bit of difficulty because I think I was halfway between the dreaming world and the waking world. Anyway I was in this office of some kind with all these people running around, and they didn't even know I was there. I tried using stabilization techniques like trying to keep myself calm, rubbing my hands, and even doing the "increase lucidity" phrase, but none of them seemed to work. It was as if my dreaming body was too close to the waking world and nothing I did was going to stop me from waking up, and I'm sure other people have had this problem. But, I was lucid nonetheless and hopefully I will become lucid again. Maybe I should try to imagine myself in a more peaceful setting like in a forest instead of a busy office next time. I apologize if this post is really long but there was a lot I needed to explain, thank you.

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      I tried this last night and it worked, haha!

      When going to bed, I repeated, "I'm going to have a lucid. man, this is going to be cool coz I'll become lucid. I'm going to be able to control my dream. Awesome!" and kept thinking this (almost when your trying to encourage someone to do something, same concept). I did this for about a min

      Then in my dream I was in this military mode and moving along the side of a road (there was a field too my left that had some enemies, and to my right was about a 6ft high embankment then the road. For some reason, I then knew I was dreaming and thinking questions. Then, like always, my dream started to wash out, I then became unlucid and my dream continued. Oh well

      I was also on the forums reading about stuff for a good 30mins, so maybe my head was in that mode? I'll try again tonight
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      I tried this last night and it worked! I said my affirmation about who i wanted to dream about, but with feeling and with confidence, and it worked! Although i wasn't lucid and couldn't do anything i wanted. But i haven't been lucid for a while any way so this technique really works. I'm going to try it again tonight and make an affirmation about something elese when i figure out what i want to dream about and see what happens, this stuff is good what you posted.

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      Quote Originally Posted by topten35 View Post
      I tried this last night and it worked! Although i wasn't lucid and couldn't do anything i wanted.
      If you didn't become lucid, why do you say this technique works?

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      oh right. I find masturbation clears my mind a lot and it only lowers my confidence with women.. everything else stays the same, but I guess it's different for different people. But I actually get insomnia if I don't masturbate so, maybe masturbation might help you get to sleep without having sexual thoughts. Maybe it's a legitimate reason but I'm almost certain you could find some way around it.

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      How i got my first big lucid

      Step One: Don't maserbate
      Step two: Wake up
      Step three: Masterbate
      Step Four: Listen to some music
      Step Five: Go to sleep
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      sweet...

      ps this is a dream forum,
      so,
      i can only speak for myself,
      but people talk about sex all the time here as i am guessing you've noticed too
      as long as it's done in context of dreaming i don't think anyone's eyebrows will fly up in shock!
      congrats on your first lucid! and thanks for sharing
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      Woa It worked for me the 2nd time....

      Awesome work...!!!

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      Lol, this thread slipped over pretty quickly onto the topic of masterbation.

      I do agree that refusing to do so improves initiative, but I consider many women I know a complete abundance other than their attractive appearances, so there's pretty much no point in bothering, when it'll only end with the same thing as masterbation anyway.

      No offense to any women who are actually intelligent.

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      i tried yesterday night but not work for me....sigh

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      Adding this as a tool for my nightly lucidity goal.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nechong View Post
      i tried yesterday night but not work for me....sigh
      I wouldn't worry too much about it. Even though I've had this work for me several times, all my LDs done just from sincere self-assurance have been less rewarding than than the typical LD. For me the main problem is, I struggle to hold on to lucidity with this method. But of course all this may be different for you, I'm just sayin'


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      Quote Originally Posted by thegnome54 View Post
      I've tried this technique two nights in a row, but I still haven't had a lucid dream. Something very strange has been happening, though.

      For example, last night while I was falling asleep I imagined a dream I had the other night about being on the edge of a desert with weird gnarled trees all over, and I imagined doing a RC and becoming lucid. I decided that this was going to happen, there was nothing I could do about it, etc., and then thought about other things until I fell asleep.

      Both nights that I've done this same process, I woke up around 4:40 AM, and remembered just having had a fairly extensive dream. I then fell asleep for 10-20 minute intervals, having one dream at a time before waking up after each one. This went on until about 5:30, at which point I fell asleep until about 9:00 and had a REALLLY long dream (today it was about an entire first day at school, complete with 6 full classes and a presentation at the auditorium).
      yea same thing happened to me last night when I tried this "non-method". I didn't become lucid, but I had 2 dreams, and one of them was like a 2 hour movie. However I didn't record the dream so at this point I can't remember much, but i'm pretty sure it was super long! oh well, better luck next time.

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      Yes it really does work. Because thanks to my confidence I got to have a couple of Lucid Dreams. One of them was in early April around the 1st or 2nd the other one on the 6th and the other one on the 7th .
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      This is definitely true. I find when you 'know' you're going to have a lucid dream that night rather than think/hope you will, you almost always do.

      Also I rememeber when I was first strating out and wasn't so confident in my ability somehting that really helped was using the NLP timeline technique (I think it goes by a few other different names too). Using this in place of a normal affirmations / mantra really sped up my progress in having more regular lucid dreams.

      Timeline technique:
      Basically if you visulaize your life on a timeline with your past extending out in one direction, usually either off to your left or behind you, and your future off in the other direction. Then you can imagine floating up out of your 'present body' and moving along over the future part of youu timeline untill you get to some point where you see yourself as regularly having lucid dreams and are very confident in your ability to induce them on demand. Then you drop in to this 'future you' and take a couple of minutes to really feel how this future version of yourself does; What does this person feel like being able to have lucid dreams on demand, how do they talk about it, what is thier body languag elike etc. You can then return to the present version of yourself whilst holding on to this feeling.

      Even if you don't start off feeling that confident your mind is easily able to imagine what it would be like to feel like that when given a chance, and once you are feeling like that it still has the same effect on your ability to induce LDs - it doens't really matter that you just imagined that feeling of confidence into being!

      Hope thats helpful.

      Also I was just wondering if anyone else ever tried something similar? How did it work out for you?
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      Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteMinds View Post
      This is definitely true. I find when you 'know' you're going to have a lucid dream that night rather than think/hope you will, you almost always do.

      Also I rememeber when I was first strating out and wasn't so confident in my ability somehting that really helped was using the NLP timeline technique (I think it goes by a few other different names too). Using this in place of a normal affirmations / mantra really sped up my progress in having more regular lucid dreams.

      Timeline technique:
      Basically if you visulaize your life on a timeline with your past extending out in one direction, usually either off to your left or behind you, and your future off in the other direction. Then you can imagine floating up out of your 'present body' and moving along over the future part of youu timeline untill you get to some point where you see yourself as regularly having lucid dreams and are very confident in your ability to induce them on demand. Then you drop in to this 'future you' and take a couple of minutes to really feel how this future version of yourself does; What does this person feel like being able to have lucid dreams on demand, how do they talk about it, what is thier body languag elike etc. You can then return to the present version of yourself whilst holding on to this feeling.

      Even if you don't start off feeling that confident your mind is easily able to imagine what it would be like to feel like that when given a chance, and once you are feeling like that it still has the same effect on your ability to induce LDs - it doens't really matter that you just imagined that feeling of confidence into being!

      Hope thats helpful.

      Also I was just wondering if anyone else ever tried something similar? How did it work out for you?
      That seems to make more sense then just trying to create "blind belief."
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      Yah

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      You are using the law of attraction simple believe and you will receive you can use this in every area of your life it's fun it works

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      Dude, all my lucids come from this method. It totally works. I don't do it so often, I feel like its more of a spur of the moment sort confidence thing.. but I'll give it another shot tonight ay.
      Like once I had my sister over, and I let her sleep in my bed while I slept on a matress on the floor, and I thought how funny it would be if I had a lucid on the bed on the floor, and I spose an instant of a moment with the idea, the visual of lding in that bed on the floor shot through my head, and that night I had an LD.
      So yeah, its just these quick thoughts of absolute confidence. Seeing the bed your gonna sleep in before you jump in, visulising the idea of you LDing in it, then dropping the thought and falling asleep. It works for me.
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      i really like this a lot. im gonna try this tonight, because i always do my best to be a very positive person i think i can easily build enough confidence to LD. thanks for the advice, you and i think alike in a way haha.

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      I tried this last night... I didn't remember any dreams. I wonder if that's a sign that it worked and just altered my recall somehow? I can almost always recall anywhere between 2 and 5 dreams a night, but last night, nothing.
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      nice technique..eve tho it doesnt take very much effort in your case, its still a technique none the less
      will try to incorperate this and see what hppens
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      Well, I must say, I now believe this works. I had my first LD Tuesday morning, and since I was so excited, I had another one last night. I'm feeling pretty good!
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      Its the power of positive thinking. Your subconscious doesn't know the difference between reality and lies - so if you do confidently say to yourself 'I am going to lucid dream tonight', and have complete confidence and belife in it then your subconscious will believe its true too, and work towards making this thing happen.
      And the same goes for a lot of things in life. If you can thinking positively, if you can talk to your subconscious through postive thoughts and such, almost anything is achievable.

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