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      Help with DEILD =)

      Hi guys, I read about the DEILD technique in a post!
      However I didn't understand some things.

      I used Lucidity (a windows phone app) to vibrate for a few seconds every few hours.
      The alarm woke me up once around 3 or 4 am I guess.
      I stayed absolutely still, and I soon remembered the dream I woke up from. (I was just playing tic tac toe with a coworker xD)
      Now comes the problem.
      I was agitated and my heart started to beat fast (It also happened many times while attempting a wild)
      Am I supposed to imagine myself in the old dream I woke up from?
      Isn't that kind of mild?
      Or am I supposed to control my breath like wild and enter the dream already lucid?

      I wrote this while I was in a hurry, feel free to ask more details if the post seems confusing!
      Thank you

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      Just play dead it shouldn't take very long to be back in a dream. For me if it works it's usually inside a few seconds.
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      It should indeed not be very complex. Overthinking what you are doing takes you out of the dream. Try to recapture the feeling you had in the dream, imagine the sounds, visualize the scenery, even try to imagine your feet touching the ground or your hands touching something in the dream. Focus your attention on the dream and your dream body, not on your actual body lying in your bed.
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      My imagination."
      -"I thought you were going to say 'Fear, itself'."
      "Then you have a small imagination."

      "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling."

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      I have similar question, maybe it'll also help: how long is it take max to re-enter the dream by this technique? Is it have any sense to lay longer, let's say +10 min?

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      I doubt there is an actual maximum. But personally if it doesn't happen within a few seconds it doesn't happen for me.

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      DEILD takes seconds. Less than 1 minute. If any longer it's a WILD.

      For me personally, the trick is not to wake up at all. Just gain awareness half way through waking up and never really reaching the "surface". Or decide while still in a dream or "in between" dreams not to wake up but wait for another dream to enter.

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      I agree with the others above - it shouldn't take long, but might feel like a long time sometimes, so don't try to time yourself or count seconds or anything.

      My advice for DEILD is to just relax and imagine the previous dream or the scene you want to be in or even just a piece of a dream (only focus on that + 'I'm dreaming' + naturally fall asleep). What's important is to stay relaxed and not over-think it... Increased heart rate is probably a result of trying to hard to imagine the scene, or trying to hard to fall asleep FAST, or any other sort of stressing out. Overall it's the same with all WILDs - better to just fall asleep and loose awareness than to over-stress / over-do it and jolt up as a result.

      Plus, like gab said, I also find it more effective to not fully wake up... It takes some practice and not always possible, but if it happened that you gained awareness while waking up - don't wait to fully wake up - just start the DEILD.

      A note about "imagining a scene" - I don't know how it is for others, but for me the shift from what I imagine to being immersed in the dream is very sudden. One minute the "imagined scene" looks totally imagined and not detailed enough, and suddenly it becomes completely real... So don't get frustrated with your imagination - it can happen suddenly so just give it time to happen.

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