Thread: I need help opening my "pineal gland" or (third eye)! Pleaseeeeee help!

Originally Posted by GMoney

I typically think of words. When I hear people say stuff, I don't envision what it represents, but rather what the word looks like. For instance, when someone says "dog," I don't see the image of a dog - I see the letters D, O, and G and understand those.

yeah whoa thats crazy i don't think like that at all. I do imagine what it looks like and represents... thinkin in words seems like a hassle for me. though i think in words when reading and writing. but everybody does. not sure if that counts.

Things to be aware of when doing this meditation: make sure that you are not tightening your throat or your jaw in order to regulate the exhaling. You want to relax, not be tense. Notice any tension in your body, and with dual awareness of also your hollow space at the center of your head, also relax any tension in your body... relax.

First thing in the morning, after taking a shower, turn the water on cold and let it fall all over you, and WATCH THAT YOU DON'T CATCH YOUR BREATHE. Keep your breathing smooth. The cold will energize you, much like jogging or other exercise gives you more energy, or increases the capacity of energy you can hold. This is an automatic function of your body that you can gain control over with your intention. You can control your breath. Do the circular breathing after you get out of the shower. Lie down and do the circular breathing, which is deep breathing and relaxation with both the inhale and the exhale connected with no gaps. Focus on the exhaling and really relax, like you are melting. Let your body breathe out without forcing it. This awakens the kundalini and it is quite sexual. Do this for an hour. You might feel the tendons in your hands tightening up, and your jaw, and you might twist involuntarily into a fetus shape. This is normal. Try to relax through it, just breathing. Don't get scared. Go through with the experience. You will not be able to open your hands. It is psychedelic. It is a spiritual experience, and healing, cleaning out all kinds of trauma and karma from your spinal chord.


But move the energy throughout your whole body, not just your brain. The brain tends to think about things and intellectualize things instead of feel them and experience them. Feel the body electric! Once your whole body is filled with energy, your whole glandular system will be at optimum peak level, including your pineal and pituitary. You may imagine is as a living chemical soup, but try to see it as electricity and rainbow light in a transparent crystal body.

But this is all for nothing if your mind is in beta state. You want to at least get your mind into alpha state. But theta good and Delta is best. But you don't have to DO it, you have to ALLOW it to happen. It is grace. You just have to be passive and receptive, patient, and grateful.


This has many names, research it: Mahayoga, Babaji's Kriya Yoga, Rebirthing, Breath of Life, Latihan, Holotropic Breathwork etc. etc. Yogis have been doing it for at least 5,000 years.

When you get good at that and want to go deeper...

Are you sure about Delta? Isn't that sleep state? I always read that alpha and theta were the best for such things.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Awesome. I've got a bunch of DMT on the way...very excited.

niceeee!

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Awesome. I've got a bunch of DMT on the way...very excited.

ahh your going for the crowbar technique eh? load universe into cannon, aim at brain, fire have you tried it before?

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

We all hear about things like chakras and third eyes and we read about it. This gets us confused. Then we imagine things. The pineal gland is actually the crown chakra, but so what? The third eye is the pituitary. Actually, these glands are the physical counterparts to the energetic chakras. However, what does it mean to have an "open" third eye? How do you know that your third eye isn't already open? How do you know that it is closed. What are your expectations? My advice is to just enjoy the feeling, keep practicing WILDs, and don't have any expectations. If your "third eye" is supposed to open, it will. If it isn't, it won't. If you don't like the sensations then complete the circuit. Bring the energy down the front of your face with your tongue on the roof of your mouth, teeth slightly touching, no tension in your jaw, down your chest to your belly button chakra to store it for later. Never try to "force" a chakra open. Never try to force a flower to bloom. Never rip the skin off a snake...blah blah blah. But above all just stay with the sensations and give up expectations and preconceptions that reading has put in your mind. It could just be anxiety. And people imagine that their kundalini is rising all the time. They dream that their kundalini is rising because they have heard or read about it and they imagine it so. Don't do that. Just keep WILDing!

listen to dannon. this guy always has the logical, zen like answers.

Originally Posted by whiterain

ahh your going for the crowbar technique eh? load universe into cannon, aim at brain, fire have you tried it before?

Haha!

Yes, I have. It wasn't as much of a slingshot into psychosis as some other things I've tried, but it is definitely the most "prepare to meet your maker, earthling" sort of substance I've yet to encounter. It all happened so fast though, it was hard to get a decent grip on anything that was happening. I'd really like to try ingestion, as I'm more used to the experiences that last 4+ hours as opposed to just a few minutes.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Haha!

Yes, I have. It wasn't as much of a slingshot into psychosis as some other things I've tried, but it is definitely the most "prepare to meet your maker, earthling" sort of substance I've yet to encounter. It all happened so fast though, it was hard to get a decent grip on anything that was happening. I'd really like to try ingestion, as I'm more used to the experiences that last 4+ hours as opposed to just a few minutes.

ahh so youve tried a strong salvia extract then?

Originally Posted by whiterain

ahh so youve tried a strong salvia extract then?

Nope...actually I'm not a fan of salvia at all. I've never had a pleasant experience with salvia.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Nope...actually I'm not a fan of salvia at all. I've never had a pleasant experience with salvia.

nah me neither it makes me forget what i have just done which isnt a good way to start

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Are you sure about Delta? Isn't that sleep state? I always read that alpha and theta were the best for such things.

Yes, Delta is deep dreamless state of sleep. If you can be aware in Delta, you will find that your ego has disappeared and your mind has returned to its true nature as Rigpa, an ocean of calm abiding awareness with no object. Of course, we don't have the discipline or skill to remain conscious in this state, but it can be done.

Some people lose awareness in alpha, most people fall asleep in theta. It is a question of intention and vigilance. I have heard that Buddhist monks allowed themselves to be tested in meditation and scientists have discovered an even deeper brainwave frequency beyond Delta that the monks can access. I forgot what it is called, some greek letter. So it can be done.

Delta is very interesting. When we go into Delta, we are absorbed back into the source to be replenished. The growth hormones flood our body and cellular renewal takes place.

Every night we become enlightened. Every night we merge with the clear light of sleep. Then we travel through the bardos of dreaming and we are reborn when we open our eyes in the morning.

When in Delta, are you a boy or a girl? Are you young or are you old? When in deep dreamless sleep, are you conservative or liberal? Are you black, white, latino, asian, etc? We are none of these things.

The pineal gland is already activated. It is fulfilling its function of regulating sleep and waking via seratonin and melatonin. It also converts seratonin into DMT. The pineal gland is what controls death and rebirth, sleep and waking.

The pineal gland follows light schedules. In order to keep your pineal gland healthy and operating at optimum don't use artificial light at night. Use candles or oil lamps. Go to bed at a decent hour and wake up around sunrise. If you wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom, NEVER turn on the bathroom light in the dark. That confuses your pineal gland and it starts its daytime cycle. This is a major cause of the epidemic of mood disorders. Artificial lighting.

Also, don't drink flouridated water or use flouride toothpaste. Flouride calcifies bones and teeth, making them harder but brittler. It also calcifies your pineal gland. We don't want that, do we?

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Awesome. I've got a bunch of DMT on the way...very excited.

You are my kind of girl!

that DMT is going to change you aquanina, it will be awesome

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

You claim it is not a skill you will acquire over night, so how do you explain the fact that childeren naturally have the ability to WILD and lucid dream?

Are you one of those children? Didnt think so.....

Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

You claim it is not a skill you will acquire over night, so how do you explain the fact that childeren naturally have the ability to WILD and lucid dream?

Lucid dreaming is natural, but I doubt that most children do it often. I have had spontaneous lucid dreams as a child, but not regularly. Children are more open to the borderlines and fringes of reality and waking/dreaming. Monsters under the bed seem very real to children. That is because they have not been conditioned yet to not believe these things. Also, children are younger, and they have just recently entered the world of the living and have just come from the other side. This has nothing to do with chakra development. If anything, their chakras are less developed. A child's brain likewise is still developing. When a baby is born, it has no filters. It is spending the first year of its life just developing the root chakra and then its second chakra. When a child reaches seven it works on developing its solar plexus chakra. The chakras develop as the person matures. The third eye naturally develops when a person is old and the crown chakra opens when the person dies and goes through it. But the problem is that people are messed up nowadays. People don't mature but remain immature. People don't die out there crown chakra usually nowadays.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

The pineal gland is already activated. It is fulfilling its function of regulating sleep and waking via seratonin and melatonin. It also converts seratonin into DMT. The pineal gland is what controls death and rebirth, sleep and waking.

The pineal gland follows light schedules. In order to keep your pineal gland healthy and operating at optimum don't use artificial light at night. Use candles or oil lamps. Go to bed at a decent hour and wake up around sunrise. If you wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom, NEVER turn on the bathroom light in the dark. That confuses your pineal gland and it starts its daytime cycle. This is a major cause of the epidemic of mood disorders. Artificial lighting.

Also, don't drink flouridated water or use flouride toothpaste. Flouride calcifies bones and teeth, making them harder but brittler. It also calcifies your pineal gland. We don't want that, do we?

*takes down notes*

Where do you get your information from, or do you have too many sources to list? Sometimes just being in my bedroom I feel completely crazy. If I step outside for even a few minutes I feel stable happy and sane again. (sunlight fresh air birds!)

I want to learn more about all the environmental factors that actually make me feel less than happy. I could just be crazy (I am) but the corner of my wall really makes me uneasy.

Devils hide in the corners. That is why the Indians pray in tepees.
I have only one source.

I don't understand a word you guys are saying; it sounds as if you're speaking a different language!

Is there a tutorial or a beginner's guide to this stuff? I haven't heard half the terms mentioned in this thread before and was wondering if there was a place I could go to get a simple introduction to it. I can't really say whether or not I believe in it because I haven't been exposed to the concepts before, but I'm willing to be open about and learn more about it.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Haha!

Yes, I have. It wasn't as much of a slingshot into psychosis as some other things I've tried, but it is definitely the most "prepare to meet your maker, earthling" sort of substance I've yet to encounter. It all happened so fast though, it was hard to get a decent grip on anything that was happening. I'd really like to try ingestion, as I'm more used to the experiences that last 4+ hours as opposed to just a few minutes.

You should hook up witht the Sante Daime Church and try some ayahuasca! That lasts about 8 hours with 3-4 hours being very intense. And they sing beautiful songs in Portuguese. But they make you sit in those awful metal folding chairs.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

You should hook up witht the Sante Daime Church and try some ayahuasca! That lasts about 8 hours with 3-4 hours being very intense. And they sing beautiful songs in Portuguese. But they make you sit in those awful metal folding chairs.

lol...do you speak from experience?

yes, indeed. It is crazy when you have giant snakes crawling through your consciousness and the walls are holographic universes and the songs are sung by angels and your body is pulsating vibrating energy and the whole time you are trying to stay sitting in that metal folding chair!

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

yes, indeed. It is crazy when you have giant snakes crawling through your consciousness and the walls are holographic universes and the songs are sung by angels and your body is pulsating vibrating energy and the whole time you are trying to stay sitting in that metal folding chair!

Sounds crazy. Why do they make people sit in chairs like that? I can't imagine something like DMT without a fluffy bed to dissolve into.

I don't know. Maybe because it is a church and that is what you do. That is why I no longer go to the Sante Daime or even the native american peyote church anymore. They are just as bad. You eat peyote at sunset and have to sit in one position on the ground in a tepee until noon the next day, not sleeping or eating or drinking. You sit around a fire in the summer long after the effects wear off and the sun is beating down on the tepee, and you can't drink water or lay down. Then at noon they pass around a plate of raw deer meat mixed with corn and you have to eat a bite of that. It is their tradition, but I don't see the point of it for me. They explain that the circle is a magic circle that is protecting you from demons and stuff, and the songs are ancient magical songs that are also protective, or spontaneously created songs revealed in revelation. In the Sante daime church, the songs are songs that a Christian missionary a long time ago found through revelation while on ayahuasca, but you can't sing your own songs.

That is why I don't like organized religion. Even if it is based on psychedelics.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

The pineal gland is already activated. It is fulfilling its function of regulating sleep and waking via seratonin and melatonin. It also converts seratonin into DMT. The pineal gland is what controls death and rebirth, sleep and waking.

So how exactly does the pineal gland control death and rebirth?