I think we might be able to unlock some answers through examining memory as well. The hippocampus seems to be the seat of memory yet some scientists have proven memories are present even in muscles. |
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Yes, because I have experienced it.
Yes, because of others' experience.
Maybe, but I have to experience it for myself.
Maybe, but it has to be scientifically proven.
No, it's impossible.
This is exactly what I think is going on. I've been watching this show called "Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman." The show explores concept of consciousness and existence such as time, how dimensions we have, what happens when we die etc. Although many of the concepts might seem like fringe science, the guests sharing their ideas and experiments are reputable scientists. Anyway, I saw two experiments relevant to shared dreaming. |
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I think we might be able to unlock some answers through examining memory as well. The hippocampus seems to be the seat of memory yet some scientists have proven memories are present even in muscles. |
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That'll teach you to delete a post you just spent an hour putting up! |
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Though it is pretty clever, I'm not sure that the IOSPD were on the right track with a method like tuning a radio. Though it seems to fit with what I said, the trouble here is that you're yes, you're tuning a dial, and that makes logical sense, but what's on the dial, other than "frequencies" for signatures that conform to your definitions, and not your target's. You'd wind up just spinning a knob with a bunch of meaningless numbers or names on it, because the metaphor you're transmitting by doing this means nothing to your targets, even if they're receptive. |
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But it can't be electromagnetic in nature, can it? The traditional energy the brain produces is simply to low to allow for the transmission over distances of a few inches, much less many miles and the curve of the horizon itself, as shared-dreaming testimonials imply is often the case. I think we must be resigned to talking about a unique energy source/transmission here, or else the rest of shared-dreaming simply won't work. |
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I myself have no idea how our brain could affect gravitational forces or use quantum fluctuations (mainly because or brain is to small to have any effect on these) but I do know that there are still many parts about memory unkown to mankind, for instance just last week they found out that would seemed like just a "wire" turned out to be able to hold and influence memories. They barely know how memories are truly processed whats to say something else isn't going on. |
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Perhaps the energy caused by forming conscious thoughts is just different enough to have a real effect on the "natural" laws of physics. Think, for instance, about the power a humble pin wields over a tautly inflated balloon. Thought energy may be minuscule, but it also has the mighty power of being able to exceed light's speed limit and ignore time. Influence can be very effective. |
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I understand that we are no longer discussing qithin he electromagnetic spectrum, I am speculating how our brain could affect things like ripples in space time without using an exotic matter. An interesting explanation is that we can effect gravitational waves through converting energy. I reference in particular Heim theory who states that when a huge amount of electromagnetic energy is created it is partially converted into anti-gravitational forces through 2 different extra dimesions. The problem is off course that we are not creating huge amounts of electromagnetic energy, not to mention that more scientists understand the m-theory than heim theory but none the less it shows that their is a possibility that we can influence other energy forms (couldn't think of the right word). |
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^^ You might not be accounting enough the supreme novelty of thought energy/thought forms. |
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Why would it disregard these theories, out of all possible places to look we should start here. These theories have the potential to explain the phenomenon, not to mention the fact the we don't know how this "thought energy" operates so assuming it disregards our laws and theories is not a valid thought. Before we look and presume it is outside our reach we should see if we have anything that fits the picture. |
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^^ You must disregard existing theories/laws of physics, Dutchraptor, if you are going to assume that dream-sharing exists as described in these forums. Not only do the existing theories fail completely to explain dream-sharing, they are an outstanding tool for "proving" the physical impossibility of dream-sharing ... Didn't we already cover this problem? |
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Hai Hermine!!!!! ah I thought there was still skepticism going on here |
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Stating the obvious maybe....Some of us consider it definitively established that shared dreaming is outside of current theory, and get frustrated that we keep going over the same ground repeatedly. But not everybody has had time to do this for themselves, or has an adequate physics background to judge, and they have to go through whatever process they have to go through. |
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True, true ... figured it was worth stating anyway, just in an attempt to avoid going over that same ground again --- we're doing so well! |
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All right, finished reading. So here it goes.* |
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Speaking of thought energy reminds me of some work done by Rupert Sheldrake. He has a theory of the universe in which thought energy produces what he calls "morphogenetic fields". Essentially, all the energy we emit and everything else for that matter goes somewhere. This is definitely not an exact reproduction of his theory but its the basic idea. |
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I agree with you 100% on the telepathy part, actually i was the one that started this telepathy topic experience by trying to tell some skeptic here that you need telepathy with SD in order to work properly, and it's two things that go well together. I also agree that distance doesn't defeat the purpose of SD. |
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Very interesting! I like your metaphor of ocean becoming the pool of spirits. I always thought like that! I really didn't research about thought-energy or something related (except thought form; Tulpa), but from my experience I think thought can emit great mysterious energy. |
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Before continuing my story I found the doctor's name, Rupert Sheldrake, who stated that memory exists outside of our heads. here's a link Articles and Papers - Scientific Papers - Morphic Resonance - Morphic Fields |
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There are no coincidences, we all chose to be here. Getting here was no accident. And that makes me very happy and confident about what we are sharing. |
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I once had a dream that I was at party with a girl I worked with. And in this dream this girl started doing a strip dance for me. The next day at work she came up to me and told me that she had had a dream that she was at a party with me, and that she had done strip dance for me. |
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Shadowofwind opened a thread called: |
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EbbTide000's Signature.
My original username was debraJane, later I became Havago. Click link below!
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thanks everyone for contributing to this interesting debate/discussion. |
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