Thread: How to be reasonably certain you are having an OBE rather than a lucid dream?

I owe an apology here. The frustration of seeing this same thread written in so many forms got to me during a late night. Let me try to add something more sensible to this conversation. Did anyone else here watch the X-Files series? Remember that poster that agent Mulder had hanging in his office with the UFO that had in caption "I Want To Believe?" For me that statement ends all. This conversation is just too personal of a subject along the same lines as "I saw an alien UFO, I believe Jesus is God, etc etc etc." There is no proof to share that will make one person right or wrong enough to put this debate and conversation to rest. If someone "wants to believe" in something and it gives them something to be excited about and a desire to learn more and seek more knowledge GREAT! For me personally I am willing to let each person be happy with their own discoveries and beliefs (which WILL change with time and experience.)

Runeword: we all have our own small proofs, it is on us, the travellers, whether we start to believe blindly to those proofs, or we are trying to find something stronger, more certain. Some of us are believing strong and fanatically... others are more skeptic. I prefer more scientific approach(I'm researcher in the field of inorganic materials in this physical reality), therefore my proofs are not enough for me. I need something reliable and repeatable. I didn't manage that yet and I don't know if I would manage that ever. But that is not stopping me. I take my spiritual way as hobby.

Originally Posted by Runeword

I owe an apology here. The frustration of seeing this same thread written in so many forms got to me during a late night. Let me try to add something more sensible to this conversation. Did anyone else here watch the X-Files series? Remember that poster that agent Mulder had hanging in his office with the UFO that had in caption "I Want To Believe?" For me that statement ends all. This conversation is just too personal of a subject along the same lines as "I saw an alien UFO, I believe Jesus is God, etc etc etc." There is no proof to share that will make one person right or wrong enough to put this debate and conversation to rest. If someone "wants to believe" in something and it gives them something to be excited about and a desire to learn more and seek more knowledge GREAT! For me personally I am willing to let each person be happy with their own discoveries and beliefs (which WILL change with time and experience.)

There is a big difference between blind belief and belief born of experience and firsthand insight.