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Stop guessing how people feel. You might have good intentions but your also being rude. |
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"Be the best You, you can be...Relax...Listen...Imagine...*Silence*...Zzzzz"
DreamCafe11----DawnEye11
DreamBuddy-Jadegreen
RealityShifter, I'm somewhat incapable of anger. Anyone who read my posts can tell I been very courteous with you, more than necessary considering you outright called my deeply personal actual experiences with my SO illusory. I would advice you not to be condescending, to me or anyone else. There is obviously a language barrier too. Though I'm Asian, I primarily speak English. Please understand that whatever knowledge you gained via dreaming or deep meditation, that's not how dream state works as a whole. It will be healthy not to get a god complex. Contrary to what you are implying... dreaming whether lucid, non-lucid, or even shared dreaming doesn't fall in line with your laws or theories. You failed to even touch why you think lucidity and shared dreaming aren't exclusive. I have some questions for you... what do you think shared dreaming actually is? I have to hear your definition of it since you are adamant it's impossible without lucidity. Have you researched shared dreaming in detail? and most importantly have you even experienced shared dreaming first hand? As it is there is very little scientific research done into shared dreaming. However, there are various accounts of shared dreaming, not all lucid. Then there are accounts of people like me who have experienced both non-lucid and lucid shared dreaming with their significant other. Right now personal experiences and experiences of others is all we have. |
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Last edited by lucidbunnie; 05-07-2018 at 03:58 PM.
Hi, so I might be interested in trying this shared dreaming stuff. Not to be like RealityShifter, but when I first read this I admit I thought it silly. I don't understand how you could really share a dream. Has it been tested, like you meet in a shared dream, tell them a combination and they call you into he morning and tell you the combination? BC if that were true I would believe in shared dreaming. But perhaps you guys could explain it to me. Thanks! |
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Last edited by Durza; 05-07-2018 at 05:39 PM. Reason: Reworded
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So I have a question, the other night i had a Dream about my Family, Mom pulled me aside and was trying not too make someone else jealous, and i was annoyed with her. i don't Think anyone else would understand it. But the next day i called my sister and there was some issue they were hiding from me, nothing big but i just wish they would have called me. and of course i was annoyed. Speaking with my sister i had exactly the same feeling as i had in the Dream, and basically a Dejuvu moment. What would you call a dream like this ?? |
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It's okay. Its been tested before but hasn't been scientifically proven yet. That doesn't mean that there hasn't been experiences though. But when your testing it out for yourself it is important to also take into account other possible influences. Were trying to avoid false results.The combination example is one way to go about testing it out. Our goal is to see if we could have the same dream with each other so seeing if unknown information was exchanged is important. |
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Last edited by DawnEye11; 05-07-2018 at 05:56 PM.
"Be the best You, you can be...Relax...Listen...Imagine...*Silence*...Zzzzz"
DreamCafe11----DawnEye11
DreamBuddy-Jadegreen
Okay, I'd be interested in trying it. What should I do? Do you mean that for example you want to have a dream that I am present in and I have a dream that you are in? What's the best way to go about that, and how would we recognize each other since we don't' know what the other person looks like? |
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Lucid Bunnie I don't Think reality shifter was talking about your so doubt he knows about that, I Think he was refering too Incubating Dreams in Daytime, which is why he said Daydreaming. |
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Actually I'm happy you are defending him at some level, but a bit troubled you misunderstood the flow of the thread. |
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Yeah. Not knowing much of anything about a person could pose a problem. When it comes to looks, i prefer to figure it out through the shared dream if possible but there is also the option of telling eachother about ourselves in pm. Also, when it comes to dreams there is a possibility that form could change. So perhaps form doesn't really matter, when compared to getting the attention of the dreamer you want to come in contact with I appreciate that RealityShifter is interested as well but he did go over the top at times.I agree with you on the non lucid and lucid thing. Your right that this experiment isn't designed in a more efficient manner but its because we don't know specifically how it works. You could compare it to learning how to master a move for a sport or dance. You take what you already know, practice and as you progress and get those realization moments, you build up your knowledge and keep practicing, till it feels natural. |
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Last edited by DawnEye11; 05-07-2018 at 07:19 PM.
"Be the best You, you can be...Relax...Listen...Imagine...*Silence*...Zzzzz"
DreamCafe11----DawnEye11
DreamBuddy-Jadegreen
Okay, I think I understand. So at night, I need to try and incubate a dream at the Gokundugona or whatever palace and try to find one of you guys by the gate, and learn something from you I didn't know before. And if I tell you what you look like the theory is proved or something like that? Is the experiment designed to prove that either you dreams are all in your head and you can't meet other dreamers and all that, or you can, and if, for instance, I do the combination, it proves it is possible? If it is possible, then could RealityShifter be wrong and it could happen when you are daydreaming during the day, because if you have the symptoms of sleep then you can travel and meet other dreamers? |
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:3 Hehe yeah. Its a step toward proof. The goal is not to prove one or the other.We just want to see whether it is possible or not for ourselves. If you are able to transfer that combination # to another through a dream, i'd say it was possible proof or they just won the dream lottery. If share dreaming is possible than perhaps connecting while daydreaming is but i really don't know. |
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"Be the best You, you can be...Relax...Listen...Imagine...*Silence*...Zzzzz"
DreamCafe11----DawnEye11
DreamBuddy-Jadegreen
I am amazed how you wrote so many words without saying anything meaningful. Such a waste I also tried to be polite with you, but if my help is unwanted, then so be it. And yes I don't think you had a single non-lucid SD experience in your life. 2 + 2 cant be equal to 5, so is impossible. My definition of SD is very simple actually: Two lucid dreamers with 'full' control(that include knowing who are you in the dream aka remembering your life), sharing one dreamscape! |
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@ reality shifter , gees what are you 12 pulling Girls ponytails grow up and learn some respect, if you talk nasty with people you will probably get booted and again have no one to discus shared dreaming with. This isn't your Dream World were you are god , your just some punk on internet . |
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by the way if you read greek mythology, you will notice that morpheus Dream oneiroi visited humans in there Dreams by first entering 1 of 2 gates ,, 1 was for false Dreams and the other was for real ones. Implying that some Dreams are more real then others not neccesarily defined by there lucidity level. |
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Last edited by oneironautics; 05-07-2018 at 08:10 PM.
I've been thinking about this and it's true that a bar is smaller and less wide open than the gate entrance. But it isn't so bad either. We could probably establish a better connection with eachother, thinking of the palace than thinking of mcdonalds or a coffee place too. Its also possible our memories or thoughts of the place could create many distractions while we are there. |
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"Be the best You, you can be...Relax...Listen...Imagine...*Silence*...Zzzzz"
DreamCafe11----DawnEye11
DreamBuddy-Jadegreen
The purpose is not to see whether or not if you remember having a brother or not. It's to see if the dreams match up. It is true that false memories can pose a distraction, however that doesn't mean you can't come into contact with another dreamer or something associated with them, if its possible. |
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Last edited by DawnEye11; 05-07-2018 at 08:48 PM.
"Be the best You, you can be...Relax...Listen...Imagine...*Silence*...Zzzzz"
DreamCafe11----DawnEye11
DreamBuddy-Jadegreen
"Calling someone 'punk' is not very polite, so learn some respect first 'kozo', then answer me. Sheesh. " |
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@ Dawn you were right this topic , is needed too be discussed. Even the Word, shared dreaming stirs up unimaginable emotions |
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Last edited by oneironautics; 05-07-2018 at 09:02 PM.
@RealityShifter + Everyone Its fine if you have your own opinion on Dream Sharing but you don't need to keep trying to force it on others. Everyone here realizes that you believe its impossible to share dreams without lucidity and a few other things, that's okay. I prefer keeping an open mind, because if you believe you can't, then its almost certain you won't be able to. People calling each other names and proclaiming the other person to be wrong is very unlikely to change anyone's opinion and only causes problems, so I think that its just best to either just do what Oneironautics said and create a private thread, or talk about it civilly and not criticize others opinions but provide proof/reason as to why you disagree. If I say, "killer bees are dangerous" you will likely leave them alone, but if I tell you why, "eg.. they attack in a swarm and will sting most anything to death," then you will be much more likely to leave them alone, as I have provided a reason. Just my thoughts, if everyone does this, hopefully we can discuss and logically iron out our ideas to get a better understanding of shared dreaming, rather than insult each other and accomplish nothing. |
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Last edited by Durza; 05-07-2018 at 09:07 PM.
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Pushing my opinions on them as law and others pushing their opinion on me as law. It's pointless. |
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Last edited by RealityShifter; 05-08-2018 at 12:49 AM.
I don't think its possible to change it to private. It would be helpful but don't worry. Just don't take what he said seriously.Its not worth it. There are worse nay sayers out there. |
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Last edited by DawnEye11; 05-07-2018 at 10:52 PM.
"Be the best You, you can be...Relax...Listen...Imagine...*Silence*...Zzzzz"
DreamCafe11----DawnEye11
DreamBuddy-Jadegreen
Wow, a lot has happened on this thread since my last post a few days ago . |
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Last edited by Jewel; 05-07-2018 at 10:58 PM.
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