DJ Comments

You got it. Thanks for reminding me of this dream when I was on top of my game...working my way back hopefully!

Whats an NLD? Wait... As soon as I typed that I realized it might mean non lucid dream. oops!

Congrats on the Totys! You've been on fire these days! Is there only one left to do? Very impressive!

Really nice scenery with all the water and pebble elements.

Glad to hear! For trying new things in your lucid dreams, start by assuming it will be easy and work from there. I recommend this link even if you aren't a newbie: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...-read-imo.html

Crazy what kinda things you can do
Gives one motivation to keep working

Thank you Serene It does take a fair amount of time to find the right pictures to use but I really enjoy looking back over my dream journal entries and with the pictures it makes for a quick way to relive the dream in my head!

Congrats on the TOTY! Great job. It's fun when you add the photos but I bet that takes a lot of time.

Yeah, I've always thought The Piper at the Gates of Dawn was such an astral, dreamy album. "Chapter 24" sounds totally hypnogogic.

Thank you bro! Interestingly my dream featured lime green like the song of your namesake.

Love your DJ bro. So inspiring, I may start including pics in mine too. Good writing skills also. Learning a lot from you.

I'm glad youre back in fine form

It was! Cherish every moment while your are still young! I also enjoy looking at my wife's pictures from when she was a little one, so adorable. The photo here is not her of course.

That is pretty interesting. A weird idea.

So I tried it last night without the 2nd choline (bitartrate) - so alpha gpc a little over 4 hours into my sleep and then galantamine 1.5 hours after more like gab (though I stayed up - didn't want to miss an alarm or use an alarm; I actually enjoy the quiet solitude in the middle of the night) and had a lot of lucidity but the visuals and vividness were lacking in more sequences than usual, although that may have been more to do with my poor diet before bed (too many sweets which don't mix well with lucid dreaming, for me at least). I had two periods where I felt like I was experiencing NREM heading toward REM and some stronger visuals while maintaining lucidity. Will have to experiment more and stay away from the sweets.

@gab - Thank you for the detailed notes!

@Patience108 - I was thinking of Yuschak's triple play (correction: he calls it the "extended play trigger") when I saw gab's adjustment that she was taking the alpha gpc an hour earlier. When I first read about her experiments in her "Wow!" DJ entry, I didn't notice she dropped the 2nd choline, so I included it. Taking the alpha gpc between 1 to 1.5 hours before taking the g + c meant that the gpc was peaking about 30 minutes to 1 hour after the g + c was peaking (g & c bitartrate both peak around 1 hour per Yuschak) thus seemingly extending the peak levels. gpc never did much for me taken by itself though I've heard it has for others. So I am guessing that the residual g in my system, though the levels are declining, are having a beneficial effect on converting the gpc to being more effective for me. I will have to try it also exactly as gab does without the 2nd dose of choline and see if I get better, worse or the same kind of results.

Very nice Foglebise thanks for sharing! So you took the Alpha gpc about an hour or so before taking the G + C ... Just getting my head round the sup detail combos I thought Alpha gpc and G would do it no? How come you had to take another Choline with the G? Maybe there are a couple of " main " ways of taking the combo's?

Thanks

@gab too - yes the CAT seems to be an important part of getting lucid hay - more and more I see myself getting lucid when I would usually have been up etc

I think why the previous combo choline + GM was not working for me consistently was not really the combos fault. I was taking it when I was WILDing during morning naps.

I would wake up at my normal waking time, so after 7 or so hours of sleep. When I failed, it was most of the time because I could not fall back asleep after a WBTB. And also sometimes I didn't feel any effects of choline in my head, which I usually do feel.

Also, there was the pressure of having to fall asleep in one hour, because that's when GM peaks.

Now, GM still peaks in 1 hr, but for some reason knowing that alpha GPC will work even past that, and that some GM will still be in my system, makes me less anxious to fall asleep in time.

Plus, now I'm WILDing in the middle of the night, only after 4 hrs or so of sleep. Much easier to fall back asleep, haha. And no noise from neighbors is a huge bonus and gives me peace of mind. I don't have to worry if gardeners come and be loud with their leaf blowers.

Another thing, I WILD when normally during those hours I am already up and at work. So my mind could be more alert because it's used to be awake at that time.

Thank y'all

@gab thank you for the idea to take the gpc early! The triple play wasn't working consistently for me for some reason but this timed out approach is working great so far.

@Elaineylane Yes, the heightened emotions are awesome at times! That 2nd picture looks more like a wave pool because I couldn't find the right picture looking down an overlook to a busy beach with lots of people in the water. So the setting is more like the first picture but the activity and DC's more like the 2nd picture.

Holy WOW! Looks kind of like my wave pool in my dream! I so can see how this made you emotional. I've woke up crying many many times due to being emotional in my dreams.

That is an awesome lucid, fogelbise!

I can totally relate to feeling such a strong happiness that you almost cry. I LOVE that feeling, it's out of this world exhilarating and the happiness is so strong, it's almost a solid object.

I love oceans and I had a few in my last lucids and I was so happy to see the beautiful water. Gosh, I love all of this - flying, water, happy sensations...

And you don't say if you finally found someone to knock boots with. Hope you did, haha.

Haha, I sometimes make notes in a dream too, knowing that I can't take it with me but hoping I'll remember it better once I see it on the paper. I love how our mind works. Mine helps me by telling me what to do, even things I would not think of in waking life, or things I didn't plan on doing, like writing things down to remember them better.

It looks like the aplha gps + GM combo is working great. Combine that with your skills and intent... : D

You most likely know this, but alpha gpc is a lucid inducer by itself. It had worked for me a few times, but not consistently. I'm planning on trying it alone again, once I have more than one chance a week to wild.

Happy dreams