• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




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    1. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      Thinking about it more, I find it interesting how you are echoing that girl from the dream Maybe I got an interesting answer in the end, even though it was a question.
    2. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      The truth is that I don't really believe the assumption of the task (possibly a reason for not getting any decent answers). On some level, everything in dreams represents something from our subconscious but I don't give it any symbolic meaning.

      I see myself as a god, creator and owner of everything in the dreamworld and I see everything as separate from me (I am the only real thing there, possibly a visitor from a different/real world). It would probably require much higher lucidity to see everything as unreal or everything as me (and I am not really able to fully see it like that even now, fully awake). But I think it is a good question, I should probably think about it in a more flexible way.
      Interestingly, even if I am not fully me in dreams, I usually perceive it as being fully me and as role-playing (but not always). Also, I often think I am more myself in my dreams than in reality because I don't have to play any stupid social games or create specific personas for others. I think that my dream character represents me as I see myself. Which is probably not my true me but a wish-fulfillment thing.
      But I would certainly enjoy dreaming from a completely different perspective, like truly experiencing being someone or something else or being omnipresent.
    3. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      I've been living in the UK for 7 years, so I think about it in this pattern: my native language - for friends from my home country and family, English - for everyone else, unless I am back in my home country.
      I think in English a lot, mostly about topics/activities I learned in English. In dreams, it is a weird mix. The biggest part happens through telepathy, the rest is a mix, with my native language being still dominant. In LDs, I use English more, because I often think about my goals or intentions in English (because I read about LDing exclusively in English) and this reflects in my choice of words. But I still mix it a lot.
    4. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      Since I'm a non-native speaker of the English language, I am now curious, do you typically dream in your own language or perhaps a mix?

      Myself, for the most part I think my dream characters usually either speak in the native language I expect them to speak or otherwise in English if they are not characters from waking life; I also almost always speak and think in English in dreams, but then that's not too different from waking life for me.
    5. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      I believe in the idea that every character in a dream can represent a part of my non-conscious mind, though I have to ask, why not yourself in the dream too?

      Certainly while dreaming I have known myself to be "not me" in many senses, while still feeling like "me". For myself, I think that my own entity in the dream is just a character in the same way other characters are, the difference being that I'm primarily seeing, touching and hearing through this avatar that is the dream "me". In addition, from my perspective anyway, typical storytelling (and our life) tends to follow the idea of a protagonist and certain centres of action and interaction.

      I rationalise this further by thinking about how I cannot know directly what it's like to not have consciousness directly bound to one perspective; scenes where I'm seeing a dream having no body to speak of, still happen from a single sensory perspective - that's not to say they have to, but in my case, they always do.

      Anyway, would be curious to hear what you think of this.
    6. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      Yes, it took me a long time

      I had a lot of LDs as a kid and teenager, before I got into inducing (my natural adult frequency would be 2-3 LDs per year).
      So I've had it easy with the stability and similar things - I simply feel comfortable in dreams. But control is new to me and I am slowly learning how it works.

      In some dreams, I got distracted. In some dreams, I focused on something else.
      In this one, I got really close, it included some levitating but not forward flying.
    7. RelicWraith's Avatar
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      Interesting. After so many LD's, and, it seems, a regularly high level of control plus stability in your dreams, this is the first time you've actually flown. Curious how that happened.
    8. Tiktaalik's Avatar
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      Sounds like a great WILD and a smooth entry. This kind of entry I always find leads into my bedroom as well. Thanks for trying the RC I suggested as well.
    9. Highlander's Avatar
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      Congratulations.

      I do like having or reading about these obe-style dreams; especially when you start to question your vivid surroundings and explore the house, outside spaces, etc.

      Having fun is a bonus.
    10. HumbleDreamer's Avatar
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      Go for it!
    11. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      Thank you. It gives me the confidence to try TOTY soon I still have some personal goals to do but hopefully I'll get there.
    12. HumbleDreamer's Avatar
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      Congrats on that!
    13. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      I broke the dry spell today! Maybe complaining on the internet helped
      Anyway, it was long and I did a ton of things - two different spells, Jedi mind control, an attempt at flying, passing through a wall, eating food.
    14. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      IndigoRose, I understand that it can be annoying but try and not think too much of the dry spells you get, because they will happen for one reason or another over time, to be sure. Usually life getting in the way, sounds about right as that can certainly mess with recall and DJing patterns for me...
    15. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      @DarkestDarkness

      Thank you and I agree. After these two dreams, I was slightly frustrated about doing nothing in my LDs and staying too confined by the location (FA room). I made a goal to be much more active in future dreams but there haven't been many opportunities since.

      @Highlander

      It's a regular thing. I am an extreme night owl. I think I actually fit into the diagnosis of delayed sleep phase disorder, although it's more my husband pushing it. My perfect time would be falling asleep between 2 and 3 and getting up between 11 and 12. Falling asleep at 5 and getting up at 13-14 is a bit too much for me and could be a reason why I have problems sleeping after 12.
      I don't care about daylight or I am used to it, I don't know.
      I've always been a light sleeper, even when I had to get up early. I sleep quite deeply first 4-5 hours and then I switch into a light sleep. Sometimes I sleep well, sometimes it's more fragmented. I wake up easily and if I do too much or start thinking too much, it can take some time to fall asleep again.
      And I am self-employed, working from home, so I can get away with a schedule like this

      Thanks to both of you again, I am happy to see that someone reads it I will add two more entries soon, I hope.
      I am going through a dry spell at the moment, life is getting in, my sleep isn't the best, dream recall is fluctuating... I hope it will pass soon.
    16. Highlander's Avatar
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      I can relate to the sleepwalking and questioning reality parts especially. Those thoughts have gone through my head after being lucid on several occasions.

      I do have a question about the sleep schedule shown here though.

      I'm presuming after looking at the times quoted here that this isn't a regular thing, but more at an attempt at lucidity and/or a by product of insomnia?

      I tend to sleep roughly at a regular time, perhaps up to about 9 hours or so. However (apart from WBTB) I have noticed that the morning light wakes me up and interrupts my sleep somewhat.

      A cool, analytical and detailed journal entry though.
    17. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      I suppose even when lucid we make odd conclusions so I don't know if that was a factor in the choice, personally I would have tried going through the wall anyway regardless of the fingers through palm thing working or not. Sure, it might not work too, but it also might work.

      Obviously everyone is different, but my personal experience is that while expectation plays a role in outcome, for me it is quite often not the final factor in whether or not something will happen in a dream.

      I think I'm just challenging you to try going against the feeling that the expectation is set and has somehow pre-defined the outcome, if another such opportunity arises.
      Updated 05-04-2021 at 10:54 PM by DarkestDarkness (clarity)