• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




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    1. theshirecat's Avatar
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      One of my goals is to have a dream palace that is persistent. Sort of like a lucid dreaming home base. I guess that qualifies as a PR. Thanks for the info! I'll check out Ben Aaronovitch.
    2. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      First of all, I'm jealous of your sick points total from this night. Second of all, I love Brandon Sanderson! Good to know there is another fan on here!! Have you read the Brandon's Dark One series? Maybe your Dark Lord is related! Also, what does PR stand for? Doubting it is public relations lore. Also also, I love the idea of using Midjourney to generate dream art...might start doing this myself. I love the book-chapter-art looking style you've gotten with it.
      I haven't but I'll look into it.
      I think my Dark Lord is mostly inspired by the Faceless Man from the Peter Grant/Rivers of London series by Ben Aaronovitch. He isn't a high fantasy evil overlord, he is an urban fantasy-style villain, looking like a middle-aged charismatic businessman.

      PR is a persistent realm. Although mine is a very imperfect and loose type of PR, and it can take place in both lucids and non-lucids. I work with the concept that all my dreams happen in the PR, which is a dream world multiverse. And I pick what I want to see more of or develop into a continuous story and I do quite o lot of incubation for it. Art is a part of that too, I originally wanted to draw my persistent/recurring places and characters and I sometimes do but I often use AI too.

      In Midjourney, I like to do drawing-like illustrations and concept art that look like pen line art colored with markers or watercolors because I use these media when I draw. And I sometimes use AI for references. I am also doing a worldbuilding project with it because I enjoy generating and drawing imaginary architecture and places. My idea behind it is something like urban sketching but from a non-existing fantasy world. I'll probably incubate something of it into my dreams eventually too.
    3. theshirecat's Avatar
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      First of all, I'm jealous of your sick points total from this night. Second of all, I love Brandon Sanderson! Good to know there is another fan on here!! Have you read the Brandon's Dark One series? Maybe your Dark Lord is related! Also, what does PR stand for? Doubting it is public relations lore. Also also, I love the idea of using Midjourney to generate dream art...might start doing this myself. I love the book-chapter-art looking style you've gotten with it.
    4. ThePerson's Avatar
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      I am glad that you are getting lucid more often! I am hoping to get my lucidity up as well, but unfortunately I have been busy with my masters which really reduces the frequency. Maybe I will have to share some dreams as well, but I have so many that it would be hard to choose which ones to share haha. I have over 1200 in my dream journal atm. I've been writing every day for the past year and a half or so, and for a few years before that on and off.

      EDIT: i am not sure why it didn't format this as a reply but it was supposed to be a reply to your comment!
    5. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      Thank you, I am happy to hear that. It takes some time to post them but I like to share and talk about dreams (to anyone willing to listen )
      I post it basically as I have it in my DJ but I have to translate it into English (I use deepl translator for some parts but also take it as an opportunity to practice English writing a bit), and I sometimes edit out some details to make it more readable, but not much.
      I used to post almost every dream, now I am getting lucid more often (yay!), so I only post the better ones.
    6. ThePerson's Avatar
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      I've been having a lot of fun reading your dreams! Thank you for uploading them, your writing style is very entertaining and it's very interesting to see what types of dreams other people have. Usually when I am reading a dream journal it is my own haha, so it has been cool to read someone else's. Your dream journal has given me some ideas on techniques to try as well
    7. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      Thinking about it more, I find it interesting how you are echoing that girl from the dream Maybe I got an interesting answer in the end, even though it was a question.
    8. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      The truth is that I don't really believe the assumption of the task (possibly a reason for not getting any decent answers). On some level, everything in dreams represents something from our subconscious but I don't give it any symbolic meaning.

      I see myself as a god, creator and owner of everything in the dreamworld and I see everything as separate from me (I am the only real thing there, possibly a visitor from a different/real world). It would probably require much higher lucidity to see everything as unreal or everything as me (and I am not really able to fully see it like that even now, fully awake). But I think it is a good question, I should probably think about it in a more flexible way.
      Interestingly, even if I am not fully me in dreams, I usually perceive it as being fully me and as role-playing (but not always). Also, I often think I am more myself in my dreams than in reality because I don't have to play any stupid social games or create specific personas for others. I think that my dream character represents me as I see myself. Which is probably not my true me but a wish-fulfillment thing.
      But I would certainly enjoy dreaming from a completely different perspective, like truly experiencing being someone or something else or being omnipresent.
    9. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      I've been living in the UK for 7 years, so I think about it in this pattern: my native language - for friends from my home country and family, English - for everyone else, unless I am back in my home country.
      I think in English a lot, mostly about topics/activities I learned in English. In dreams, it is a weird mix. The biggest part happens through telepathy, the rest is a mix, with my native language being still dominant. In LDs, I use English more, because I often think about my goals or intentions in English (because I read about LDing exclusively in English) and this reflects in my choice of words. But I still mix it a lot.
    10. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      Since I'm a non-native speaker of the English language, I am now curious, do you typically dream in your own language or perhaps a mix?

      Myself, for the most part I think my dream characters usually either speak in the native language I expect them to speak or otherwise in English if they are not characters from waking life; I also almost always speak and think in English in dreams, but then that's not too different from waking life for me.
    11. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      I believe in the idea that every character in a dream can represent a part of my non-conscious mind, though I have to ask, why not yourself in the dream too?

      Certainly while dreaming I have known myself to be "not me" in many senses, while still feeling like "me". For myself, I think that my own entity in the dream is just a character in the same way other characters are, the difference being that I'm primarily seeing, touching and hearing through this avatar that is the dream "me". In addition, from my perspective anyway, typical storytelling (and our life) tends to follow the idea of a protagonist and certain centres of action and interaction.

      I rationalise this further by thinking about how I cannot know directly what it's like to not have consciousness directly bound to one perspective; scenes where I'm seeing a dream having no body to speak of, still happen from a single sensory perspective - that's not to say they have to, but in my case, they always do.

      Anyway, would be curious to hear what you think of this.
    12. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      Yes, it took me a long time

      I had a lot of LDs as a kid and teenager, before I got into inducing (my natural adult frequency would be 2-3 LDs per year).
      So I've had it easy with the stability and similar things - I simply feel comfortable in dreams. But control is new to me and I am slowly learning how it works.

      In some dreams, I got distracted. In some dreams, I focused on something else.
      In this one, I got really close, it included some levitating but not forward flying.
    13. RelicWraith's Avatar
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      Interesting. After so many LD's, and, it seems, a regularly high level of control plus stability in your dreams, this is the first time you've actually flown. Curious how that happened.
    14. Tiktaalik's Avatar
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      Sounds like a great WILD and a smooth entry. This kind of entry I always find leads into my bedroom as well. Thanks for trying the RC I suggested as well.
    15. Highlander's Avatar
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      Congratulations.

      I do like having or reading about these obe-style dreams; especially when you start to question your vivid surroundings and explore the house, outside spaces, etc.

      Having fun is a bonus.
    16. Lang's Avatar
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      Go for it!
    17. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      Thank you. It gives me the confidence to try TOTY soon I still have some personal goals to do but hopefully I'll get there.
    18. Lang's Avatar
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      Congrats on that!
    19. IndigoRose's Avatar
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      I broke the dry spell today! Maybe complaining on the internet helped
      Anyway, it was long and I did a ton of things - two different spells, Jedi mind control, an attempt at flying, passing through a wall, eating food.
    20. DarkestDarkness's Avatar
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      IndigoRose, I understand that it can be annoying but try and not think too much of the dry spells you get, because they will happen for one reason or another over time, to be sure. Usually life getting in the way, sounds about right as that can certainly mess with recall and DJing patterns for me...
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