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    Choi's Journey of the Conscious Mind

    Here I write down my attempts and experiences from my nightly experiences (lucid dreams, Obe's and APing)

    It sometime might look like I am trying to sell out my techniques, so I apologize for that. But it's just my way of writing it in order to motivate myself.

    I personally hate "BEST TECHNIQUE THREADS" or technique threads at all for that matter, because I allways seem to put all my confidence and belief in the technique, but when I try it and fail I just blame myself... Instead of learning it my own way and put the confidence and believe in myself.

    You can of course still read about techniques and methods, but just see them as guidelines and not bullet proof science. Believe me it's easy to get into that mindset.
    And by the way, even science can be prooved wrong ;)

    So be crtical while reading this.. I just hope that you learn from my experience the same way I have learned from others like:

    Stephen LaBerge - lucidity.com
    Tim Post - Lucidipedia.com
    DreamWarrior - Wakeupinyourdreams.com
    Michael Raduga - obe4u.com
    Frank Kepple - Astral Pulse
    My friends Fredrik, Tony and Philip
    Thomas Campbell and Bob Monroe - The Monroe Institute
    And all the great members of Dreamviews!

    Enjoy!

    1. WILD Before Sleep Is Possible!

      by , 02-28-2012 at 05:41 PM (Choi's Journey of the Conscious Mind)
      [COLOR="red"]WARNING!

      The technique I will describe now takes effort, and if you fail it might result in insomnia...[/COLOR]

      Ok this might be my last journal entry, but I want to share the method to help you guys succeed.
      And it must be added that this is not a new technique, this is what every WILD guide explains, but this is my version because it took some time to learn it... And I still need to pracctise it.

      I have already told you about this method in an old thread that can be found here:
      [url]http://www.dreamviews.org/f79/my-friends-natural-wild-technique-123506/[/url]

      But I will explain it in a little more detail and add some new things that he have told me and that I learned from.
      First of all I have to tell you that he is not a lucid dreaming pracctioner or anything like that.
      When he was a little kid he invented this method to fall asleep and cure his insomnia!

      Last night I tried his method and I managed to come to the point where I could no longer feel my physical body.
      But I was still aware of my breath, my eyes and my thoughts.
      I started visualizing a random house and walked around in it, and at one point I felt my consciousness switching and suddenly I were there. I was now lucid and was amazed of consciously entering a dream without previous sleep.
      I walked out from the house and the dream ended up like all my lucid dreams seem to end... I lost lucidity while talking to someone. Although I was still aware of the dream so I remembered the whole dream and it was a long vivid dream.
      It felt like more than 30 minutes, but as you all know it's impossible to have vivid REM dreams for more than 15 minutes.
      So I am not sure how to think of that. ( Mind creation? Doesn't matter had sex, I mean time dilation :cheeky: )

      Anyway today I asked my friend Fredrik to tell me about his falling asleep technique again, and this is what he told me:
      Well the goal is to fall asleep, but what I do is that I lay still with closed eyes and focus on my breath and I focus my vision between my eyebrows and keep it there. Then I will feel my body slowly getting more and more relaxed, I will feel the tingeling start from my legs and work it's way up. Then I just keep having this meditative state and I will at some point not be able to feel my body anymore and my mind is calm without thoughts, and the only thing that remains is my breath.
      I sometimes stop right here, because the next step is really scary, but I really want to fall asleep so I have to do it...
      When my only awareness is the breath, I take a deep breath and then gradually slow the breath down and make it smaller and now the scary part. After a while I will no longer feel my breath and it feels like I am going to die!
      But if I just stick with it I know that I am going to fall asleep. Then something strange happens.
      I start to see a bright white light and I will get a sensations of levitating and I just keep floating up and when that sensation stop, I am and up in the clouds and here I just relax as much as I can and I fall asleep, and then I wake up the next morning feeling completely rested.

      I was shocked and asked him "Why the H*LL don't you stay aware so you can lucid dream?!".
      And he answered "Oh I wouldn't want to risk having insomnia after waiting and doing all that, the goal is to fall asleep after all".

      And I was like :eek::panic: GAAAH!!

      I tried to convince him in every way possible, but it was no use he wasn't interested in lucid dreams. :shock:

      Anyway I on the other hand can use this knowledge to my advantage and now you can too :shadewink:

      Just gong to add some tweaks. Because I did this last night, but I wasn't aware of the breath method, he told me about that today.

      I have experienced most of the steps he described, although the eyefocus thing isn't really necessary that's just his anchor and he relax that way. As long as you stay still and stay aware you will still be able to do this, the meditative pure consciousness states comes naturally, you can even think of what ever you want. The problem is just that a wondering mind can easily make you fall asleep unconsciously. I do this by listening to a guided relaxation so that's my anchor :)

      One thing that might be painful to hear is that I timed this and it took about 1 hour to do.
      Although it didn't feel booring at all, I was excited the whole time :)

      The reason to why I will not write down my dreams here anymore is personal. I have realised that they tell too much about a person, even though the dreamer is the only one who can analyse them. So that's one reason.
      The other reason is that they are annoying to write down in the morning :P

      I have also started believing in obe's and astral projection and I know most people are sceptic, but just try this:

      This is just a theory but when I did this technique and realised that I was no longer able to feel my body, I started visualizing and I ended up in a dream. Because I was focusing on my thoughts.

      My friend Fredrik on the other hand, he focused on the (body) and the feeling of breathing and I think that he actually got an out of body experience.

      I am not going to argue about these phenomenons, because frankly that's something that is up to the person who experiencing it to decide. I'm just hoping that this text helped someone :D

      It will take time, but if I some day(night) manage to control the dream and make it last longer and being able to go to Hogwarts or something like that. I might post in this journal about it ;)

      Thanks and bye for now!

      Choi :sleepmeditate2:

      Updated 02-28-2012 at 09:28 PM by 49122

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    2. How to fall asleep unconsciously and dream consciously. DILD/MILD

      by , 02-20-2012 at 09:59 AM (Choi's Journey of the Conscious Mind)
      I just made my BODY fell asleep consciously without pre-sleep. This is not a WILD, this is a strong intention MILD.
      Is it so weird really? To fall asleep consciously just means that I am aware of my body shutting down.

      I will not tell you what to do step by step, because there is only one step really, laying still with closed eyes and wait.
      But I will tell you what I felt.

      I went to bed laying on my back and I just started to relax. After a while salive started to build up in my mouth, but I just swallowed it, I am trying to fall asleep not get sleep paralysis, so it didn't matter. So I did not had to care about the mind awake body asleep concept, I just wanted my body to get completely relaxed while I was aware.

      I thought to myself "I am aware of my dreams and I remember my dreams".

      I did the 61 point relaxation technique, but it doesn't really matter what kind of focus you have as long as you are laying still and are aware. I have pracctised to be able to lay still for a long time with the help of tons of guided relaxation meditation mp3:s. And to be aware is not that hard when you are.

      I looked at my alarmclock before starting all this and it was 22.10

      I felt my body vibrating slightly, ok not vibrating but it feels like its getting petrified. Hard to explain, but lay down still for a few minutes and you will get what I mean.

      After some time I started to feel my nose itch like crazy and I just pretended that this was my body testing if I was asleep.
      It was hard to ignore this, but if I just let it itch for 10 seconds, it faded away gradually.

      When the itch vanished I nod off for a short second for a couple of times and I knew that I was close to fall asleep.
      Then my whole body got warmer and my mind felt calm and tranquil.

      I now knew that my body was asleep and I tried to let the mind fall asleep by setting my intention to fall asleep as you do when you normally go to sleep. Go to bed now and try to fall asleep, that feeling is what I tried to create at this point.

      I let myself fall asleep unconsciously now.
      I then started to dream, but I was not lucid, but I was very aware of it happening.

      [COLOR="blue"]I got out of bed and started my computer. I heard my mom saying something in the other room. I walked out of my room and I saw my dad laying on the carpet in a weird bodyposition and I saw my mom.
      I thought this was weird so I decided to make a reality check. Sadly the reality check didn't worked so I am going to start using another during the day, to make sure that I get lucid next time. I looked at my hand and it looked crooked and did not looked normal. But I just thought "Hmm this might be a dream, let's do another reality check".
      I checked my pulse and I could feel it, nothing odd here...

      The dreamscene changed and I followed Mr. Bean in third person view.Then the setting started to change rapidly, I was writing a letter then I was flying over a town, and then I was Emil from Astrid Lindgren's books.

      I had a flower that I took care of and the dream was just about me as Emil talknig with the flower. Then I went up to a house and from the window I saw a women stealing the flower. I shouted on Alfred and we run out looking for this women. When we found her, I noticed that she was qute good looking and Alfred started to flirt with her instead.
      Weird dreams, but then I woke up. [/COLOR]

      I did a reality check, I was awake. Now I looked at the time and it was 00.26. I got excited of this attempt, because I had done a MILD, waited to lapses of consciousness and been aware of the dream as soon as it started.
      I was not aware in the sense that I knew I was dreaming, but I was aware enough to experience the dream and I if the reality checked had worked I would have become lucid.

      This means that if I had got lucid, it would have been in the first sleep cycle.

      I will try this the next night as well and until then I have to figure out a better reality check.

      I will try to give you a small step by step guide of how I did:

      1. Lay still in your bed with closed eyes.
      2. Tell yourself your mantra.
      3. Feel your bodyparts gradually get relaxed. (swallow your saliva if you have to, you are not aiming for SP!)
      4. If you are aware enough you will get lapses of consciousness (You are then on the right track!)
      5. I heard a beeping noise in my ears.
      6. I fell asleep and was more aware of my dream.
      7. Have a reality check ready that works...

      The key is the mindset:

      Don't care what happens, just stay still and remember that you don't aim for sleep paralysis so don't look for that, instead try to feel the different sensations that your body will give you.

      The advantage of this, is that I have control of the attempt and that I don't need a WBTB, instead I can do the attempt at my regular bedtime!

      When I woke up from this dream I turned the lights on an wrote down all this, which resulted in that I couldn't fall back to sleep...

      But eventually I did, and I had these dreams:

      [COLOR="blue"]I were in one of Lady Gagas musicvideos and it was about her having extremely long hair which was almost like a long rope. And me and some other people were pulling in the hair for some reason.

      Then I dreamt that I could fly and the dream consisted of my trying to control that flying.

      In the next dream I was playing soccer and I was talking to my friends Maja and David, I remembered the conversation upon awakening, but I seem to have forgot it now...

      I also remember that I had a dream about Harry Potter, but I can't remember what happend in that dream.

      Before I woke up I remember that I had a dream about me being a member of a gang and we robbed a bank, but I got caught.[/COLOR]

      Tonight I am going to use indirect techniques upon awakening to see if I am non-physical (dreaming) or not.

      Updated 03-22-2012 at 07:44 AM by 49122

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    3. Just one of the ways to DEILD

      by , 02-18-2012 at 06:27 PM (Choi's Journey of the Conscious Mind)
      I have decided to continue sharing my dreams here. I have learned new things and learned better ways to improve my chance of lucidity and maybe the real secret of WILD, ok maybe not, but it feels like no one ever talks about it.

      I will be sharing my dreams, ideas and progress here.

      I will now share the best guides about lucid dreaming there is!

      In two years of pracctise I have finally learned the mindset of lucid dreaming - learn from unsuccessful attempts and don't get discouraged by them. I learned this from:

      Lucidipedia - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrV4vEDPkB0[/url] - The Mindset of the lucid dreaming pracctise and much more.

      Then I learned why lucid dreaming techniques works and what happens in the brain while doing them.
      So by knowing that, it's easier to have the confidence on succeeding.
      (It might be hard to follow exactly what he sais, but rewind and listen again, this is gold!)

      DreamWarrior - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RFQUDlIAUM[/url] - The Science of lucid dreams.

      And then I discovered the perfect guide of how to DEILD. Now I have learned to easily have atleast 1 lucid dreams per week (Fairly often) with the use of indirect techniques, which is techniques performed upon awakening to see if you are close the dream or the phase as the author calls it. Check out the free ebook at [url]www.obe4u.com[/url]

      Michael Raduga - [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FysT50Ap0XU&feature=related[/url] - The best lucid dreaming method according to me.

      Now with these three combined I am unstoppable. :)

      And last but not least, the secret of how to WILD.

      If you watched DreamWarriors videos you understand that the best technique to get aware of a dream is the WBTB so you get a REM-REBOUND. Then you can make a WILD attempt.

      But the thing is that many people think that the goal is to attain "sleep paralysis" in order to have a lucid dream.
      But the goal is to D R E A M. To be able to dream we have to fall asleep, otherwise it would be called hallucination...
      And today I read in the SOBT and watched a video on wilding from lucidipedia, which changed my view on wilding.
      Instead of focusing on keeping the awareness on one single thing for an eternity, which probably wont make you dream because it's not in even in the dream nature to be focused and stable, your goal should be to fall asleep for a short second, minute, hour and THEN regain awareness and consciousness again.

      So how do we do that?
      Actually I don't know... :P But what I do know is that this have happend to me many times before, that I focus on WILDing and suddenly I just doze off, but somehow I regain awareness again. But when this happend I treated the attempt as a failure and I wasn't aware of that this is when I should have looked for non-physical signs with indirect techniques.
      So it's basically feels like a DEILD, but it actually isn't, it is not a DREAM EXIT or DREAM CHAIN, because what we are actually doing is waking up in the dream and using indirect techniques to see if we are non-physical (dreaming) then we just get out of our dreambed.
      And that sounds good right? Instead of focusing on staying still for hours, you sleep through the attempt and start at the end.

      So the secret of WILD is to aim for lapses of consciousness, because these are opportunities to DEILD more effectively.
      I will tell you about all of my coming attempts from now on.

      Good luck to you and I will see you tomorrow :)

      Updated 02-28-2012 at 06:24 PM by 49122

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