Thread: Steph´s DILD Workbook

I hope you feel better soon!!

Thank you - sure will - the cusp might already be over - or latest tomorrow!

I am really wondering - I had dreamt of playing a huge darts-match in front of the sort of crowd, like they are at the moment at the Worlds Championship, which I watched last night a part of.
Had a lot of trouble, too - but won.
Now we play darts here at the moment - and I am really having a purple patch today - with guys, I normally am happy to come out 10:4 - I lead one of them 5:2 and am even with the other at 3:3 - won 8 out of 13 - rather unheard of with these two. And because I play better - not them less well than usual.
If it´s only effective wishful thinking - I take it any day...

Nice!! I recently had a sports dream the night before a recreational league competition and it seemed to give me a boost. Good luck! Maybe you are getting some of that "practice" in your dreams that we talked about before.

Yeah - I won one match 6:4 and lost one 3:4 - they are normally better than me - not tonight - even threw a 19-darter - 18 was my best ever..

Just an update - not much going on - but some:

Monster-Rabbit And Monster-Dog And A DEILD Between Two Useless Mini-Lucids - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

^^at least it was practice and you got some RCs in, so not completely useless, but I think I know how you feel from when I have had short LDs...

I am want to wish you a wonderful and fulfilling 2014 fogelbise - you are very important for me - take good care of your lovely self - what you do for me here is invaluable.

And also huge thank you gab - you have a knack for finding just the right words for a light to go up in my head - may you live lucid and prosper in this new year and in general of course!

Where on earth do you get one on one teaching and day in day out and completely free as a gift?
This academy is such a unique place in the internet - a jewel!
And so are you!

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It's all you Steph! You are a very special addition to the DV community and I know there are many others who agree...others who have come across your infectious, inspiring enthusiasm!! I remember seeing something that gave me the impression that we may not see as much of you in the coming year and I truly hope that does not mean your total absence for weeks at a time!

Thank you so much - it will have to be less - but I won't disappear - surely not - promise!

I will hold you to your promise!

Ah - there is some movement maybe.
I had a short lucid yesternight - only consisting of me looking at my hands.
But that actually after I got lucid.
I have no habit of RCing - but did 3 handlookings yesterday with mantra: When I dream - I look at my hands and realize that I dream.
After a week of none such things.

Now I wonder if I might not have been fully lucid - but did something artificial, which caused my eyes to be as still as in nREM maybe - and therefore lost it.
Anyway - I might just look at my surroundings next time - turn around rather slowly - and take it all in degree after degree.
Or try to blow my mind with pure viewpoint - probably not that easy.
But then - such words should be poison..

Grab something? Or rather leave a dream-body out of the equation?
Mainly hold on to the intellectual realization that precedes the RC.

What do you think of these quite spontaneous ideas?

Originally Posted by StephL

Or try to blow my mind with pure viewpoint - probably not that easy.
But then - such words should be poison..

I agree. I feel strongly that it is indeed poison to think in such a way in the playground of our dreams. That being said, you could always start with something more simple such as you described...a degree at a time. I have seen it suggested that the brain may not be able to process the idea of a pure viewpoint, but I refuse to let that become the truth in my dreams but I also have no current goals for trying it.

Grab something? Or rather leave a dream-body out of the equation?
Mainly hold on to the intellectual realization that precedes the RC.

I would say that any of those things would work and you could choose the one that feels right to you in that moment. The later two could lead to some interesting experiences and would free you up from thinking about any limitations of your physical body or the real world and may allow you to do more.

Yeah - all theoretical - but somehow I have this nagging suspicion that while doing these certain RC/stabilization things - I sort of let loose on the intellectual realization-aspect by concentrating on them.
Needs to be tried out.
Had a semi-lucid last night - strange thing - I somehow, but not really knew it was a dream - more like a game-situation - I didn't consider to leave the story - but knew, I can do special effects.
Actually - I had a notion of it all being a movie - as explanation, why I could do these things - but also like having to do well in terms of performance - yeah - game or movie - unfortunate, I didn't really grasp it.
Got to do WBTB again - seems this helps with high-level realization and esp. waking life memory.
But nice anyway - to even get a little bit of lucidity - only two RCs yesterday and some repeating of mantras before going to sleep.

Originally Posted by StephL

Yeah - all theoretical - but somehow I have this nagging suspicion that while doing these certain RC/stabilization things - I sort of let loose on the intellectual realization-aspect by concentrating on them.

You do mean from within the dream, correct? Do you mean that your focus on the dream world and dream body are pulling your further from the realization that you are really back in bed? If so, a simple reminder to yourself within the dream. It could be as simple as "I am dreaming" or "remember." You can "practice" it during the day with your RC's and think about it before or after your mantras before your go to sleep. Intent, focus or thoughts about LDing right before you go to sleep are very helpful.

Hi fogelbise!

Bit unhappy with my LD-activities - got this multi-alarm thing now - but I need to build up a real motivation - do some daytime work - not let my inertia take the better of me.
Don't know, what it is - I guess it happens to people - and they stop the LDing in that sort of context - I hope sincerely I will not.
No I won't!!



Do you sometimes use alarms - forgot that - how do you use them - if you do?

Originally Posted by StephL

Hi fogelbise!

Bit unhappy with my LD-activities - got this multi-alarm thing now - but I need to build up a real motivation - do some daytime work - not let my inertia take the better of me.
Don't know, what it is - I guess it happens to people - and they stop the LDing in that sort of context - I hope sincerely I will not.
No I won't!!



Do you sometimes use alarms - forgot that - how do you use them - if you do?

Please do keep it up! Read or relive some of your favorite lucid dreams to give you motivation. I just came off of a week of inertia and realized the importance of doing the day work and got back to it. I used the multiple alarm method for maybe one week, had a couple of LDs from it but then the last couple of days left me feeling tired. I plan to go back and try it at some point though. I had it auto snooze after sounding the alarm for 3 or 5 seconds(experimented with both) with the the snooze duration at 20 minutes (alarm wouldn't sound again until 20 minutes later). Good luck!

Yeeah!! Bit of progress! HHs on a WILD try second time of my life!!
Since I typed a lot into my DJ - I copy-past the side notes over:

The dream, I journalled today had almost an overload of dream-signs:

Geographical setting around lake I grew up close to
Looking and finding a place to move in for living
Swimming
Searching luggage and getting frustrated
Ex-boyfriend
Not being able to speak

Six of them in one dream - and I stayed happily non-lucid.

Made a mistake with my alarms - the app needs to be open, for them to go off - I noted, it was not - but my dictation-thing, when I woke up naturally quite late.
Was awake for the next one still then - and the one after that woke me up - and I tried it out as a micro-WBTB with mantra - in the end I fell asleep to a non-lucid.

Buuut: before that was a short phase of - very short - disappeared once I got a bit excited about it - HH!!

And pretty strong ones - bit of vibration and a strong feeling of weightlessness - but at the same time movement - swerving about - even falling.
That was the second time of my life, I had strong bodily HH - any HH, actually - first one was after a longer WBTB and 2 min. of just looking at the back of my eyelids on a WILD try - on my second ever WILD try!!

And such I made a lot of tries the last two months up to half an hour - never again with HH or success in WILD - but quite often with a following DILD.
I guess, I need them some more times, before I can avoid getting so positively excited about it..
This is progress towards WILD, though - and makes me very happy indeed!

It was not on my back but in my usual position on my stomach and turned to the right.

Nice job! I think you were close indeed! Have you been able to get back to the day work?

A tiny little bit! Will be more from now on!

Originally Posted by StephL

A tiny little bit! Will be more from now on!

I have to find the motivation from time to time and recalling and/or reading my favorite LDs helps me a lot.

My First Alarm DEILD!! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I was out last night - watching the première of a movie the husband of a friend is the director of - was great - aand - both were fascinated, when later I told them about LD.
He even told me, he would have some lucidity - but only for the very last moments in a dream - and he would always wake up almost with or from the realization.
Since the movies he not only directs, but also writes, are a lot about psychological stuff - for example how people deal with violence in the family - I guess, he could really bite.
Dreaming big, the me - maybe he makes a movie on it one day, if he happens to learn and love it properly!!
Now that would be something!!
But his wife - my friend - she did indeed already know, what LD is, and has read about it - just never had one/remembers none.
So it sort of must be something about Germany - and/or my "intellectual" circle of friends..

Weell - very, very happy - that was one heck of a dry spell I got myself - also by waiting for that app and suspending business up to then.
But now I am freshly motivated to do proper daytime work with recall/prospective memory and awareness!!
Edit - this is what I use: Alarm Clock Bud Pro for IPhone

Congrats on the success Steph!!! That is also so cool that you are able to talk to many different people about lucid dreaming!

Yeah - and I still am yet to come across so much as a little doubt about the reality of the phenomenon - also no decided disinterest and change of subject ever - really quite the opposite.
It was a good topic yesterday - something interesting - I triggered fascination!
And am full of hope for my own further activities, too - that was not so nice - don't know, how long - but 3 weeks of dry spell, I guess.