Thread: Steph´s DILD Workbook

Sounds good - very, actually! Congratulation!
I think you are right - it is probably really better and at least meant to be read out loud. Hm - I might give it another shot. How many have you done?
I'm not exactly a patient person and get bored quite fast - a shame considering that this repetitive method seemed to really work for me.
What do you plan for quality? All that comes to my mind is meditation* maybe with some incubation, daydreaming?

*with that I am only lazy, but never bored by the way...

Thank you. I haven't kept count, but I would guess that I did the lucid script about 6 or 7 times now and the recall script maybe 4 times, both in a span of a little over one month so certainly not daily. It can feel a little lengthy to me at times, but it goes fairly quick and I try to enjoy the beach, elevator and reading room visualization. It is kind of like meditating in a way.

For quality I plan to really remember to slow down and look around as soon as I become lucid. To help this I practice during the day with my reality checks...practice how I will react when I become lucid.

Hm, hm - funnily - now back active here I didn't have one yet.
But I (but still) do nothing - I should definitively start with RCs again, and also under your above consideration. Forming a ritual maybe.
And I actually didn't dislike the text at all - like I disliked the one, where the follow-up is missing.
So I might go about it again as well - and journalling!

^^I really do believe those fundamentals help. I have been way too lazy with day practices, so I am itching for my next lucid dream. I thought for sure it would be last night...possibly semi-lucid last night. Having vivid dreams at least. You will be back at it before long as well!

My recall is pretty good - and I did two of your extended RCs with looking at things in detail, feeling things, moving, thinking the LD situation through, being surprised at all the details. One time from coming outside, seeing our house, thinking wow - I will go in and find my dartboard, I remember it is there and so forth - but I stopped throwing some actual darts, because I was waay off target and I hope, that's not going to be so in the dream.
I even went to a light-switch and told it, that yepp, this is a dream, but it should now work anyway since it does for other LDers as well - and eureka - there was light...

Very nice! That is exactly what I had in mind! And you took it further with the light switch!

And it worked!
Maybe it's the hypnosis back-bone why access seems easy now - just a bit of attention towards it like doing two of these extended RCs and I'm ready to go rip my clothes off in public!

Awesome! I would not be surprised that the hypnosis backbone is helping there and your little bit of focus perhaps reminds your subconscious to be aware perhaps! Congrats Steph!!

Thank you!
Also great that Sensei runs a comp - I really look forward to that!

What is also nice lately is that my normal dreams seem to be going my way much more. For example there are some people appearing in my dreams whom I didn't see irl for a loong time and I would want to speak with them or have adventures - and so often I couldn't get to them for some reason. Up to people not wanting to, ignoring me and lalala.
Over the last nights I finally had a really cool dream with one of these - a happy one and with making a date for further togetherness. Very sweet. A bit as if I would "claw" my way through a series of very similar dreams over days or longer - and the outcome keeps getting more pleasurable - from rather disastrous to really nice. One such series with another person stopped after me achieving this. Almost as if my dreaming mind had certain things on it's to do list...
And thinking about it, it is also in the script - having more control over normal dreams and more fun.
I know what I want to happen in the dream and I give my best to achieve it - and I get better at it but slowly.

Subliminally knowing that it is a dream might be playing a back-ground role here as well - anyway - I really feel more in control in non-LDs lately.

^^This is an awesome development! Very nice Steph! It makes me want to do the script some more.

Hi there!
Feels good - I had day before yesterday just told myself I would lucid dream and got the TOTM (with that aim), did this yesterday again, just that - just wanting to - again lucid, even twice.
The competition will show what I have to think of this - coincidence or if it's really that easy now.
Why wouldn't I want to LD explicitly, just that, all the other nights? Because:

My was it super weak and short again - one was just the realisation and waking up. In the other one I found myself in a situation on a mountain, where I was already afraid to fall - became lucid but the fear didn't go away - I didn't even dare to fly and I almost always fly - just not usually over several hundreds of meters drop right from the start. I've been higher once - but that scared me as well - especially the enormous speed I had gotten there with, superwoman style.

Anyway - what I did was being precariously situated on a boulder and I looking around. Something is wrong with me, really. I wasn't able to focus on little stuff, with looking closer, stuff disappeared. But I could look around, and if I didn't dwell on something I could see it. But still not as if I was really there. And when a DC came along and took up the storyline again - I was gone and lost in it...

Originally Posted by StephL

Hi there!
Feels good - I had day before yesterday just told myself I would lucid dream and got the TOTM (with that aim), did this yesterday again, just that - just wanting to - again lucid, even twice.

Congratulations Steph!! Stay confident and keep getting lucid and the rest will come with time!

Hold your thumbs - now it worked three days in a row with just intense intention-setting!
But what on earth to do for quality?!

Again super short and I was only going about trying to stabilize the simulation. Maybe it hinders me to think of it as such? But how can I not? How can I come to really trust my inner projector to do it's job properly? Or what actually is my problem??!




Hukif has suggested it might have to do with the trauma of my first adult LD, where the most terrifying thing was that I thought I would be caught up completely with all my being and senses in another plane of existence, which was hyper-realistic, and that I wouldn't find my body back. I don't quite think so, since there were other instances, especially the first LD after that, ten years later, which was completely stable, but maybe not that tangible either, now I think of it...
But if he is right with this, then my fear must be totally subliminal, not consciously noticeable...
Since DV (another ten years later) there was another such one from catching a FA and the others weren't all bad, either. But never again did I have this feeling of absolute and real presence in a physical world like in that Castaneda-connected one...
I would go crazy for LDing practice if I got that again only one time - and I think if I were really that active - I could maybe rock'n roll in all my nights - dilemma!

Could there be a connection between FA and the exceptional quality of the LD I got from catching it?
Or was it maybe that very fear and the firm belief to have landed in a "quasi-physical" place which did it for me in the first one?
But how the heck then achieve this effect again, if so?!

Hmmm...it may just take time and some day practices...and to perhaps also not think about it as stabilizing but just something you do that just happens to lengthen your dreams. The moment you worry about the dream ending or worry about stabilizing, it can start to unravel. I also had a period recently where I was wondering why my LDs were short after having quite a few longish ones and (fingers crossed, knock on wood) I think I solved that for now. What I did was that I just practiced slowing down whenever I simulate becoming lucid during my daytime reality checks. I don't say "got to stabilize" as that can create worry...I just do slow down, feel the excitement and think about my goals which also makes it easier to remember goals. But is this what you meant by "stabilize the simulation?" Or was that in reference to the actual lucid dream being a simulation versus a real place?

Yeah - that was what I meant. I will do that again - will try to simulate stabilizing the simulation in real life - your extended RCs. No LD last night, by the way - but this night!! I guess positive excitement does play a role, lets see if I can't take it slowly and calmly the next time, being really prepared from playing it through in the day.
Thank you again - you are fabulous!

You are too kind! Thank you! I do believe it will help a lot, over time. Funny thing though...I had a short one last night, but I am quite sure it was at the end of my REM cycle. I realized I was dreaming when I had trouble speaking and then my voice came out iiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnn sssssssllllllloooooowwwww mmmmmmmmmooooooooottttttttiiiiiiiiiiooooooooonnnnn .

Yeah!! It could simply be that I really get lucid at the very end of REM always/only - esp. since I don't do any techniques to induce - ha - I know I should!
Well - comp is coming - that's perfect timing!
And I had this also and lots of times - I can't talk, only croak, and at least one lucid croaking was witnessed from outside by my husband!
Since we almost never sleep in one bed - this could be true always for vocalizing problems, and it must mean I'm half awake, if I actually use my real voice at the same time!
Maybe it's as simple as that - if only I could do the WILD...

I could see that playing a factor. Perhaps you need to be closer to waking up for the self-hypnosis to work completely on it's own, but with a technique added in like WBTB and day practices, you have a better chance to activate the necessary parts of the brain earlier in the dream/REM cycle. I do think that the hypnosis should also have a residual effect to where your subconscious is thinking about LDing before bed and during awakenings, which should help as well.

I hope I'll use the comp-time to really get going, finally, again!

Finally - one hypnosis session again - now I feel weird - don't want it to not work...

Awe...don't think of it that way...it will work!...even if not the very night that you do it, it must have a cumulative effect I feel!

I'll see - maybe I feel like one more later - now having been lucid a bit already - motivation is quite good again!

Congrats on the LD!! I will check out your DJ tomorrow...running out the door tonight.

Congratulation on yours, too!!
Will check out your DJ a bit more as well - puuh - the comp is full-time forum action this time!
It worked again, hypnosis I mean! If I go by what this supposed research project asked of us, it might be good to just simply keep it up
every day from now till comp's over...

And I'm doing several of your extended RCs a day as well - even pretended to climb on the balcony-railing to go advanced flying from there.
Good that my husband didn't see that...