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I think your DJ looks great BirdPoo, Photoshop is a kind of art you convey your dreams nicely, I like the part about the waterslide for animals, have had a similiar dream with orcas. SOmetimes its helpful for me to remember if i try to draw with stick figures a whole dream on one paper visulizing helps me fill in the gaps of the dream and i see it more from one perspective, because i didn't really move.

Last night kids were taking shifts staying up, taking over my bed, hehe, did have some dream about my mom smoking a cigarette (she doesn't smoke) ...

^LOL! Anyone reading the very beginning of your first sentence must wonder what you are talking about, haha.

Thank you, I actually do refined google image searches to find the closest thing to what I saw in my dream…drawing them would look terrible. It really is fun to look back at those DJ entries as the dream quickly replays in my mind's eye bringing me joy. It is a good deal of work though finding the best images.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

^LOL! Anyone reading the very beginning of your first sentence must wonder what you are talking about, haha.

Yeah, like me

@FM, I think I told you the story before, but if not, the short version is that I like the way it sounds in Swedish. My username is basically the english phonetic spelling for the Swedish word for bird poop. (Our friend Oneiro is in Sweden.)

haha, just reality checking sounds like an native american name .

Realized this morning that might IRL planning has recently been neglected, when i used to wake up at 5 would previously run the day through my head and make small decisions about the day, e.g. what too wear, or what to buy, or who i need too call, these days have been more interested in dreaming goals etc, and have started feeling unorganized and unfocused in the daytime. So need to regain some balance and not forget to use some night time hours to think and plan daytime activities.

Have updated my IRL character checking, instead of just thinking the lady was wearing shorts, I will think something like the lady was wearing shorts, i was glad i had my warmer pants on because it was chilly, and reflect if just for a second on what i am wearing, or the ladys bag looked heavy and make a point to feel the weight of my own bag just for a second. To help me be more self aware.

Have started watching Continuum series, like the character a futuristic detective looking for bad guys, SO my dream last night was a little bit inspired by that, excititng and investigating, there was some good bits we alot of people were waiting for some one to OBE into the room and we were looking for were they might enter, also did alot of dc checking was something about Electricity... This was my early dream so it was unfortunately not so much ME awareness i only had a few lines,, and baby didn't want to go to sleep again after 5..
I am wondering if there are some tips on TV watching the would help me stay more aware of myself, i don't watch alot of tv maybe one episode a day but close to bedtime after the kids are sleeping any tips???

have this weird thing going on sometimes, the other night woke up in the middle of the night like for the 3rd time, and just really wanted to get back too sleep, and as soon as i closed my eyes i saw like a scene from a dream, super clear and detailed, first it was a super long white picket fence with a grey sky, later on it happened again, it was a house like on like a stick in the middle of sea with thunder around but also really pretty sunset, that one was quite easy to interpret i just wanted to be alone and was a little annoyed from waking up every hour, and the other one was probably about boundaries, but i wasnt thinking about anything just popped in my head as soon as i closed my eyes.
Then last night i was putting the kids to bed around 8 pm , lied down with them and said something like do you want to dream about a boat just close your eyes and imagine a purple boat, and closed my eyes and could imediately see a super vivid scene with 2 super detailed ships in the ocean and the sky was pink and the waves where splashing, so i decided to try and see if i could be aware of myself i didn't feel me but the scene sort of changed to the beach and the sand and some trees and the water was splashing on the beach....
Any idea what that is called???
Otherwise have a nice weekend!!

Originally Posted by oneironautics

Realized this morning that might IRL planning has recently been neglected, when i used to wake up at 5 would previously run the day through my head and make small decisions about the day, e.g. what too wear, or what to buy, or who i need too call, these days have been more interested in dreaming goals etc, and have started feeling unorganized and unfocused in the daytime. So need to regain some balance and not forget to use some night time hours to think and plan daytime activities.

When you were doing this before, did you find it easy to get back to sleep afterwards?

I am wondering if there are some tips on TV watching the would help me stay more aware of myself, i don't watch alot of tv maybe one episode a day but close to bedtime after the kids are sleeping any tips???

I have read articles suggesting to stay away from TV and computer light close to bedtime, but it doesn't seem to affect me and seems to be more important for people that have trouble getting to sleep.

Originally Posted by oneironautics

have this weird thing going on sometimes, the other night woke up in the middle of the night like for the 3rd time, and just really wanted to get back too sleep, and as soon as i closed my eyes i saw like a scene from a dream, super clear and detailed, first it was a super long white picket fence with a grey sky, later on it happened again, it was a house like on like a stick in the middle of sea with thunder around but also really pretty sunset, that one was quite easy to interpret i just wanted to be alone and was a little annoyed from waking up every hour, and the other one was probably about boundaries, but i wasnt thinking about anything just popped in my head as soon as i closed my eyes.
Then last night i was putting the kids to bed around 8 pm , lied down with them and said something like do you want to dream about a boat just close your eyes and imagine a purple boat, and closed my eyes and could imediately see a super vivid scene with 2 super detailed ships in the ocean and the sky was pink and the waves where splashing, so i decided to try and see if i could be aware of myself i didn't feel me but the scene sort of changed to the beach and the sand and some trees and the water was splashing on the beach....
Any idea what that is called???
Otherwise have a nice weekend!!

Very interesting. False awakenings can be very realistic, so it could be that you dreamt of waking up and that is why the dream images were produced immediately upon closing your eyes. That seems the most likely. It could also be a form of DEILD'ing. I have a theory that a lot of assumed DEILD's are actually the product of false awakenings where we easily re-enter the dream because we are already dreaming. It is also possible that these experiences could be hypnagogic hallucinations or "dreamlets".

When you were doing this before, did you find it easy to get back to sleep afterwards? Yes, but i think it inspired some cleaning dreams , so it could be good to do that first and then b4 drifting off remember my dream goals.

I have read articles suggesting to stay away from TV and computer light close to bedtime, but it doesn't seem to affect me and seems to be more important for people that have trouble getting to sleep. I don't have problem getting too sleep, but it might affect my dreams to a more sitting and watching perspective. I have been more 'critical' in my tv watching so as not to forget what i am thinking; why does that amuse me, or make me sad, how i react to characters.

Very interesting. False awakenings can be very realistic, so it could be that you dreamt of waking up and that is why the dream images were produced immediately upon closing your eyes. That seems the most likely. It could also be a form of DEILD'ing. I have a theory that a lot of assumed DEILD's are actually the product of false awakenings where we easily re-enter the dream because we are already dreaming. It is also possible that these experiences could be hypnagogic hallucinations or "dreamlets".
Well it could explain the midnight ones, but i am very sure the last one was at 8 pm when the kids were going to bed, i wasn't dreaming just closed my eyes and super realistic images popped in my head. anyway...

So Last night I did a reality check YAY , and immediately had a FA , and i dreamt i wrote the dream in my book and went back to sleep... I guess I need to start Reality checking when i get up.

Originally Posted by oneironautics

why does that amuse me, or make me sad, how i react to characters.

I didn't understand what you meant here. Do you mean that you are getting better at catching your reactions and emotions to things happening on the TV?

Well it could explain the midnight ones, but i am very sure the last one was at 8 pm when the kids were going to bed, i wasn't dreaming just closed my eyes and super realistic images popped in my head. anyway...

Very interesting…could you have been sleep deprived?

So Last night I did a reality check YAY , and immediately had a FA , and i dreamt i wrote the dream in my book and went back to sleep... I guess I need to start Reality checking when i get up.

Very nice! It sounds like you realized that you could be dreaming which made you think to do an RC and then had an FA where you thought you were waking up quickly after the realization. If you read about others quickly waking up after becoming lucid, this could have affected your expectations possibly making you expect to wake up, with your dreaming mind providing the FA of you waking up. Yes, doing an RC at every time that you get up would be an excellent way to catch FA's and realize that you are dreaming! Expectations are huge in dreaming. If you can change your expectations, it can do wonders for you. I recommend reading this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...-read-imo.html

I didn't understand what you meant here. Do you mean that you are getting better at catching your reactions and emotions to things happening on the TV?
Yes trying to be more mindful at all times, tv is very easy just to slip away, but im working on trying to stay present, its quite exhausting really with bombs and everything in the show ..

Very interesting…could you have been sleep deprived?
Actually the last 2 weeks something and when this happened, have been trying to go to bed 30 min earlier.

So month 2 is almost coming too an end, have decided as exciting as i am about trying WILD its not for me at the moment, mainly because when waking up at five i'm usually thinking 'hope the baby stays as sleep' .. and its far too distracting, have felt alot of times felt when going to sleep when my body feels sort of frozen and i have a choice of waking up or going to sleep, never really played with it before, but one day this will be super fun.
For now, (as of 18th of Oktober because of visitors) I'm going to start with SSILD or SILD (senses induced Lucid Dreaming) don't know what the extra s is for,, and also DCILD, so i will be reading up on those, any good articles in the DVA you could recommend perhaps?

Last nights Dream was super exciting, Was watching the news and realized me and my friends were dead and now using our Spirit bodies, YAY i was super excited and decided i wanted to jump into some fire thing to prove my body was Spirit , we jumped in and my friends turned into lady bugs,, but i wasn't worried i said thats fine,, super fun dream alot of flying swam with shark (goal) and happieness, only have some difficulty remembering chronology..

^Sounds like a fun dream!

I used SSILD almost exclusively for the first 3 years or so and found it very effective for giving me DILDs after a WBTB. I am not familiar with DCILD but I assume it is DC based perhaps.

Originally Posted by oneironautics

Yes trying to be more mindful at all times, tv is very easy just to slip away, but im working on trying to stay present, its quite exhausting really with bombs and everything in the show ..

If you find it exhausting to the point where you don't want to continue, then you might want to take a break from that exercise. We usually can find enough exercises to keep us advancing that are also enjoyable, or at least not exhausting. But perhaps you do enjoy the challenge. I certainly enjoy a number of physical exercises that leave me exhausted.

last nights dream seems appropriate with ssild in mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0TdPD6Nc0

Dcild Dream character induced Lucid dream, not sure how i'm supposed to go about it but the dcs should come and tell me i am dreaming :-)
Have a Nice Weekend!

Originally Posted by oneironautics

last nights dream seems appropriate with ssild in mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0TdPD6Nc0

I didn't understand what you meant here but perhaps it is just a "note to self."

Dcild Dream character induced Lucid dream, not sure how i'm supposed to go about it but the dcs should come and tell me i am dreaming :-)

Is this something you read about or is it something that you are creating yourself? If you can get it to work, it would great. It is something I have thought about but have not experimented with yet.

Have a nice weekend also!!

I didn't understand what you meant here but perhaps it is just a "note to self."

Just a song i was dreaming about i like the lyrics
Chase faded days
With eyes that cannot see
I wanna feel it again
Washing over me


Discover all of you
One moment at a time
Taste, smell, secret cell
Your soul, it touches mine
I need to feel up
Hope knows, I need it this way
Like I'm walking on clouds
I can't come down
Even if you wanted me to
I can't come down
Even if you wanted me to
Nothing can stop me
I'm never satisfied
I take what I want
Refuse to be denied
Live in the moment
The future can disguise
It's starting to touch us
But I…

Is this something you read about or is it something that you are creating yourself? If you can get it to work, it would great. It is something I have thought about but have not experimented with yet.

here is something i found, it sounds a bit complicated, but i will start with planting some ideas anyway,, and hopefully when getting more lucid it will be easier.

http://howtolucid.com/dream-characte...ucid-dreaming/

last nights dream needs its own post because ...

Last night was LUCID
dreamt i was going to attempt a wild in the dream, started dreaming within the dream but was aware i was dreaming , was on the beach and i was super determined walking and staying concious, scene switched i think to a dild still within the first dream, was swinging on monkey bars , super determined like it was super important, but thinking i'm dreaming i'm dreaming,, i thought i'm dreaming i need to rub my hands together , i started but then my memory fades a bit, i guess swinging on monkey bars and rubbing hands together didn't work so good :-)

you are GREAT teacher FB, was lucid again last night :-)

Wow!! Two nights in a row - way to go!! Thank you for the compliment, but the credit goes to you Oniero!! I am so happy for you!!

Thanks,

Been super crazy here with visitors, usually work very well under pressure so that might have helped, but hopefully sleep time will settle down by tomorrow.
Joined the COmpetition so have some temporary goals, was worried i wouldn't contribute so much , but one dild was my initial goal, now i can focus on 2 or 3 for bonus :-)

so 3 lds in a week so happy for some success at last, the days i did have ld i felt super connected all day long and was so sure i would have ld like all my thoughts were in the same place at the same , im guessing from working on all day awareness, even though it is very challenging with 3 small kids feels like i need to be aware all the time of 4 people, especially baby who is learning to walk and putting everything in mouth.. Oh well I love a challenge will have to start up that same commitment again sort of been slipping 1 or 2 days, what my rcs will look like now,, remember where i was remember where i am going, how long have i been here , how old are kids and what are they wearing, where did the clothes come from etc..

You're doing great! Keep it up, congrats!

Originally Posted by oneironautics

so 3 lds in a week so happy for some success at last, the days i did have ld i felt super connected all day long and was so sure i would have ld like all my thoughts were in the same place at the same , im guessing from working on all day awareness, even though it is very challenging with 3 small kids feels like i need to be aware all the time of 4 people, especially baby who is learning to walk and putting everything in mouth.. Oh well I love a challenge will have to start up that same commitment again sort of been slipping 1 or 2 days, what my rcs will look like now,, remember where i was remember where i am going, how long have i been here , how old are kids and what are they wearing, where did the clothes come from etc..

Awesome Awesome Oneiro!!

If you have been achieving this without WBTB, then that challenging awareness work you have been doing may be the biggest factor. If you ever feel like the challenge is no longer fun, it is okay to slow down and focus on practices that you enjoy and throw in some WBTB's or heavier challenge days when you can or when it feels right, for an added boost.

Well being mindful is alot more healthy, if it was just about lucid dreaming i might tire of it, but i try to do it for the kids also,, for example playing in the sandbox, or with lego or singing imse wimse spider for the millionth time, they have alot more fun when i am really present and enjoy the moment with the instead of thinking about something else i want to be doing. Also have been trying to eat more mindfully really think about flavours started asking the kids to describe what something tastes like kind of difficult describing what potatoes or pasta actually tastes like..

Actually 1 of the ld's was b4 3 in the morning , but the other 2 were from a wbtb, baby and hubby like to wake up around 5 or 6 so i decided to really get up and really wake myself up instead of being just half awake ,, and when hubby went to work we were able to go back to sleep :-) so definetly gonna try that again

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!

HAve 2 ideas i will work on first, alot of pros seem to 'feel' the difference between their dream body and physical body, so next time i am lucid i will try and feel what it feels like and maybe learn to tell the difference easier and realize i am dreaming just by feeling the difference,, so irl have been focusing on feeling what my physical body feels like and trying to do that all through out the day.

second, Dreaming body is run by our emotions, ( i think) so if i were to be super aware of all my emotions (grumpy, sleepy, bashful, sneezy, dopey and doc) maybe by knowing which emotion has been the strongest through the day i will know who will be controlling dream land that night ,, for example a newbie like myself might get super excited and basically the dream body will run on that excitement because it is the strongest emotion,,,, or maybe i watched sleeping beauty 2 many times haha