Brain RAM?

[CloudOFmichael]

Is there a limit to the vastness of a dream world that your brain can create?... usually, someone's lucid goals are about DOING things... what about creating things?.... is it possible to create an entire city? Entire planet?... with inhabitants and such?... this Q is aimed at more experienced LD'ers .

[Oreo]

It could be a challenging for most people, but I see no reason for it to be impossible. If you can imagine it, you can do it in the dream world. I don't usually have the urge to create things in dreams though. I like to explore and admire the dreamscapes more than creating them.

[Vortaix]

Everything is infinite, so is your mind.. No RAM limit.. .. proof: when you are in a lucid dream, look at some point of the horizon, it's infinite.. Because there is no other factors that can influence your sight, like atmosphere or so.. Yes.. you CAN make cities.. every dream i have happens in the same world, same town.. I didn't make it, but, ehhh... it's already there -.- .. My opinion is all dreams happen on the same terrain , you just have to connect them all.. In the middle of my dream world, is a HUGE crossroad, been to it couple of times.. there's an old man.. in the center of the crossroad, which i ask for directions, and he points his finger and helps me.. Back to topic.. so , no limits, no ram, enjoy :]

[CloudOFmichael]

Awesome, thanks guys! And Vortaix, that's sick!! (and I LOVEEE your username )

[Kaenthem]

as Vortaix siad...no RAM limites...and you are talking about creating cities...i know somebody in another forum that hae been having luvid dreams for 28 year's....he didn't creat cities or planet he created about 10 world's....yes you heard iy right ...WORLD'S...

[Xaqaria]

Well, you can't think of the dream in the same way as computer memory; nothing is "loaded" until you are aware of it. If you stop paying attention to something, it ceases to exist so the only limit is how much you are capable of being aware of at one time. There is definitely a limit to your individual awareness but there is no pre existing limit to how much you could become aware of with practice.

[Puffin]

Well, you can't think of the dream in the same way as computer memory; nothing is "loaded" until you are aware of it. If you stop paying attention to something, it ceases to exist so the only limit is how much you are capable of being aware of at one time. There is definitely a limit to your individual awareness but there is no pre existing limit to how much you could become aware of with practice. ^ This. IMO there's no limit to what your mind can create or come up with (quality), but you can only produce as much content (in terms of quantity) as you can focus on or pay attention to.

[MatrixMaster92]

Well, you can't think of the dream in the same way as computer memory; nothing is "loaded" until you are aware of it. If you stop paying attention to something, it ceases to exist so the only limit is how much you are capable of being aware of at one time. There is definitely a limit to your individual awareness but there is no pre existing limit to how much you could become aware of with practice. Boss answer there. Basically, when you observe the dreamworld you are observing non local consciousness. Therefore, the only limit is your awareness and ability to draw upon an empty canvas (although I think dreams already have deep meaning even whenever we don't consciously engage them).

[wana]

i cant remember where but some user here said that he had reached a limit around 10 000 people he summuned when he tried to higher thier numbers some disappeared letting the new ones take thier place but 10 000 is really a big number and i can remember my teacher told me that our brain is made to personally know around 10 000 people so i think that that might be the limit of creatures that can be summuned

[Sageous]

Is there a limit to the vastness of a dream world that your brain can create?... usually, someone's lucid goals are about DOING things... what about creating things?.... is it possible to create an entire city? Entire planet?... with inhabitants and such?... this Q is aimed at more experienced LD'ers . Xaqaria hit it right on the head, but let me try to reiterate: Creation in the dreamworld is unlimited, period. This is because your dreamworld is not actually a world at all, but rather your perception of a piece of a world in which you are standing. In other words, you don't have to imagine an entire planet full of people to believe that you are situated on one, with all the requisite exotic alien stuff that you can conjure available to view as you look at it -- when you look away to something else, the first things are gone, with no need to continue processing them as images. Same goes for people: you'll never reach that "10,000 person" limit, because you only need to create, see, and interact with a couple of people at a time, even though you believe there are many others beyond them. The worlds you create in a dream are not actual worlds, but your unconscious assumptions of what your immediate perception of those worlds should be. So in other words, there is utterly no limit to the vastness of the world your brain can create, because it only needs to experience that world one piece at a time, and not all at once. Oh, and this piecemeal perception wil not keep you the dreamer from being sure that you created a whole new, unique, fully populated, city, world, galaxy, or universe. It's all about perception and imagination; not reality. No limits. Great question, BTW!

[Naiya]

I've been LDing for many years and I've seen epic landscapes that have stretched for miles, entire cities that looked alien to me, forests of plants and animals I've never seen before...I've never got any hint that my mind was incapable of coming up with expansive realistic worlds.

[CloudOFmichael]

Thanks SO much for the replies everyone! And have a Merry Christmas! Xaqaria hit it right on the head, but let me try to reiterate: Creation in the dreamworld is unlimited, period. This is because your dreamworld is not actually a world at all, but rather your perception of a piece of a world in which you are standing. In other words, you don't have to imagine an entire planet full of people to believe that you are situated on one, with all the requisite exotic alien stuff that you can conjure available to view as you look at it -- when you look away to something else, the first things are gone, with no need to continue processing them as images. Same goes for people: you'll never reach that "10,000 person" limit, because you only need to create, see, and interact with a couple of people at a time, even though you believe there are many others beyond them. The worlds you create in a dream are not actual worlds, but your unconscious assumptions of what your immediate perception of those worlds should be. So in other words, there is utterly no limit to the vastness of the world your brain can create, because it only needs to experience that world one piece at a time, and not all at once. Oh, and this piecemeal perception wil not keep you the dreamer from being sure that you created a whole new, unique, fully populated, city, world, galaxy, or universe. It's all about perception and imagination; not reality. No limits. Great question, BTW! You explained that beautifully! Thanks so much !

[Sageous]

Thanks SO much for the replies everyone! And have a Merry Christmas! You explained that beautifully! Thanks so much ! No problem, and I'm glad it made some sense!

[MarineRecon]

Well this was interesting.

[Stirred]

If you can experience it, you can create it.

[MarineRecon]

Yep, thats how I think of it too.

[Wolfwood]

Another way to illustrate it is through video gaming: In an open world game like Skyrim or GTAIV, textures across the landscape are not loaded with full resolution until one is in close proximity. And furthermore, parts of the map, though most definitely static and reliable, are non-existent until you're close enough.

[The Cusp]

There is most definitely a limit. RAM = How much you can focus your attention on at once. And I've reached that limit. I had so much going on that my other mental functions all shut down. I was just taking more and more of the lucid dream in, the ground the buildings, the clouds, the air, kept going all the way down to the molecular level of everything in the dream all at once. There was so much just humming away, and I was aware of all of it. But I didn't have enough processing power left to think, to act, to even want to do anything. All I could do was just be aware of everything. Kinda made me wonder if that's what it's like to be god. Not saying I was, was just a very interesting experience. I highly recommend every try it if they are capable. So a limit unless you are using a fractal model of the universe where atomic structure is just a smaller scale universal structure, because then you could conceivable go on for ever through constant perception shifts. At least outwards, as the whole would constantly be simplifying and condensing. But going down or smaller towards the molecular would probably add too many elements exponentially to keep track of, creating an eventual limit. Either way, there's only so much you can handle at once.