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Long Count Mayan Calendar Cycle |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 01-07-2012 at 10:24 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Open a goddamn book Omnis. |
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Last edited by Xei; 01-07-2012 at 09:33 PM.
Just because cultures used a geo-centric view of the heavens does not mean they didn't know any better. Most people in our world still do when they look up into the sky at night today. Constellations are geo-centric. They don't look the same from other points in space. But we still use them. Why do we use helio-centric viewpoints nowadays. Surely our culture most not be stupid enough to think that the Sun is the center of the Universe? OUR calendar is based on the sun and the moon. The Mayan calendar is not anything like our calendar. |
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Last edited by Dannon Oneironaut; 01-08-2012 at 12:01 AM.
Dannon's back! Have trouble finding food? |
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The equinox does not happen at the same place every year, the place the equinox occurs drifts around the sun, each equinox completing a full circuit around the sun in about 26,000 years, more or less, since the precession is slowing down, along with earth's rotation. |
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Then what is this? |
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How did you get "Our galaxy orbits our sun" from that? |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Just gonna throw my two cents in to this flame war, the 2012 conspiracies are very intriguing and I do believe the year 2012 holds certain significance, and by the end of the year things for humanity will be very different, and the change will be far greater than in past years. But I do believe that there will still be humans in human bodies, standing in an undestroyed Times Square, when the ball drops to ring in 2013. (I tend to hope they'll still be Americans, but you never know.) |
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Woah dude you like, totally tripped me out there! |
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Last edited by Xei; 01-09-2012 at 02:33 AM.
TBH Xei, show me an exponential curve and I will tell you the the apex is the special bit. What other part could be? |
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Last edited by Xaqaria; 01-09-2012 at 02:55 AM.
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The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
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There isn't really an 'apex', there's just a cutoff at the present moment. At any moment in history, most certainly recent history, the same apex would have been there to point at. But in hindsight there is nothing intrinsically special about it. |
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Like a bacteria, our irresponsible use of technology appears to look like an exponential curve but it drops off and starts again. At least this is what the Hopi prophesied. We have the capacity to reach new levels of technology but also have the capacity to destroy ourselves and start again. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Xaq and Omnis, you both seem to be floating around a bunch of random unrelated theories and it's giving me a headache. |
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I don't know anything for certain so it'll be hard to prove me wrong. But while we're on the subject, why don't you or Xei explain what direction humanity is headed. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Space in my opinion, that's where our future lies if we want to continue to survive and flourish as a species. |
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That's why I consider the Hopi prophecy to be so interesting, especially combined with all the evidence that human kind had previously industrialized but disintegrated at the apex because they couldn't handle it. The Hopi prophecy gives us two futures, we can either pass the apex or disintegrate again. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
When have we disintegrated? Cultures have come and gone, but their technology usually just switches hands. You must also realize that centuries and millennia are not very large timescales, and will become even smaller with time. Humans haven't been civilized for very long. Certainly not long enough for any kind of global societal pattern to emerge. |
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How can you be so sure? We make discoveries of evidence way beyond what we thought ancient civilizations were capable of on a pretty consistent basis (although I don't know of any that are immediately recent). Who invented the Baghdad Battery? What information was lost when the library at Alexandria burned down? What was plato talking about when he wrote of Atlantis? Why is there a track leading up off a cliff in the Andes mountains? |
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Last edited by Xaqaria; 01-09-2012 at 08:27 AM.
Art
The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles
To assume that the pyramids and other ancient granite structures could be built with anything less than industrialized technology is evidence that you have not done enough research into ancient society. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
They're towers of rocks. There are plenty of ideas as to how they could have been built: |
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