Thread: Dreams could be soon watched on computer screens

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

What about virtual prisons? Virtual torture? You can torture and kill people in the most complicated and painful ways possible - over and over again...
Sounds fun, no.
*sarcasm*
Maybe lock people in a virtual jail after erasing their memory - and give them the most shitty life ever.

Great inventions are usually corrupted...
Airplanes! Woo we can fly! ---> and bomb stuff, and shoot each other IN THE AIR!!
Nuclear energy!! Clean energy! ----> Yes! Now we can kill millions, many innocents, with just one bomb!!
etc
etc
...

Sad but very true.

cool, the first times i was lucid i started to thing how i can show the things i saw to my friends.
"i'll take a picture. wait, the camera is no longer there when i wake up, damn!"
pretty awsome to be able to watch others dream. then you can wake them up if they have nightmares

Too bad we CAN'T see peoples dreams.

if this technology gets completed...

HOLY F*CK

Originally Posted by hypnotoad1579

Whoopee, another step towards loosing mental privacy! Damn I hate science sometimes.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one. I hate how fast technology changes.

There really are a lot of people that would love to threw people in jail for thought crimes.

here's a couple of good reads, seems they're getting closer...
http://www.livescience.com/health/05...tal_brain.html
http://www.livescience.com/health/05...interface.html

from the second one:
"In 2003, researchers at Duke University taught rhesus monkeys to consciously control the movement of a real time robotic arm using only feedback from a video screen and their thoughts. The monkeys appeared to operate the robotic arm as if it were their own limb.

A team led by neurobiologist Miguel Nicolelis implanted a tiny array of brain-signal-detecting microelectrodes in the monkey's brain. They trained the monkey with a joystick that moved a cursor on a screen, and, once the monkey had mastered that task, the robotic limb was added to the feedback loop. After a few days, the monkey realized the connection between moving the cursor and moving the arm.

Once that connection was established, the researchers removed the joystick. The monkey slowly figured out that it could still move the cursor and robotic arm by moving its own arm. After a few days without the joystick, the monkey realized that it could move the robotic arm without moving its own.

It had mastered a neuroprosthetic limb. "

Originally Posted by dearly

Here's the technical breakdown if anyone's interested:

http://www.mediafire.com/?gmlefuzunng

wow, thanks!!!


really cool, I will have to give it a read sometime.

Awesome!
Would definitely come in handy for those nights when you wake up and can't remember what the person in your dream looks like.

Absolute far cry.

These 400 pictures were most likely the alphabet shown in different styles, colours, and sizes to arrive at a mean neural response for each letter - albeit with noise.

They then showed volunteers the six letters in the word 'neuron' and succeeded in reconstructing the letters on a computer screen by measuring their brain activity.

It is obvious here that each letter of the word 'neuron' was shown individually. Then, it's likely that the neural response from each observed letter was compared to the mean neuron response calculated from the previous pictures.

If the word was shown in itself, however, then the neural response pattern would have differed greatly, and they wouldn't have been able to reconstruct the word. The problem lies in the reconstruction order, and quite simply, the general compilation.

Ultimately, their technology did not reconstruct the word 'neuron', it simply matched neural activity of individual simple stimuli, i.e. letters, to previous neural activity that was elicited by, most likely, letters. The experimenter's knew what they were looking for, and thus had only to match neural activity.

Sensory experiences do not produce invariant neural displays, and therefore, such technology is useless.

(ps. I haven't read the original article, so this is speculation).

great, This could be bad.
think, someone's watching your recorded dream (non lucid, sex dream!)
that would be horrific
or something embarrassing like going to work/school with no pants on.

Originally Posted by Creation X

great, This could be bad.
think, someone's watching your recorded dream (non lucid, sex dream!)
that would be horrific
or something embarrassing like going to work/school with no pants on.

That's only embarrassing if you're stupid enough to show your dreams to them.

Originally Posted by John11

I never knew we were anywhere near being able to do something like this. This is extremely exciting news. It has always been my dream to have a machine that could record dreams.

Same.... i think its a premonition. A lot of people i know have said that too. I first thought of it in public school when i was about 7...

I didn't think that we were this advanced! Well that's Japan for you.

...God I wish that I was Japanese... or Romanian...

But it'd suck to have someone else see...

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

That's only embarrassing if you're stupid enough to show your dreams to them.

My thoughts exactly.

I think it'd be awesome to have a kind of "video-recorded" DJ, so that I could watch what happened, the way it happened, rather than have to rely on my own memory based on my writings (and I must stress that human memory is NOT like a video recorder whatsoever, so some of the things I 'remember' from my dreams could really be misremembered).

Originally Posted by Quark

Absolute far cry.

These 400 pictures were most likely the alphabet shown in different styles, colours, and sizes to arrive at a mean neural response for each letter - albeit with noise.

They then showed volunteers the six letters in the word 'neuron' and succeeded in reconstructing the letters on a computer screen by measuring their brain activity.

It is obvious here that each letter of the word 'neuron' was shown individually. Then, it's likely that the neural response from each observed letter was compared to the mean neuron response calculated from the previous pictures.

If the word was shown in itself, however, then the neural response pattern would have differed greatly, and they wouldn't have been able to reconstruct the word. The problem lies in the reconstruction order, and quite simply, the general compilation.

Ultimately, their technology did not reconstruct the word 'neuron', it simply matched neural activity of individual simple stimuli, i.e. letters, to previous neural activity that was elicited by, most likely, letters. The experimenter's knew what they were looking for, and thus had only to match neural activity.

Sensory experiences do not produce invariant neural displays, and therefore, such technology is useless.

(ps. I haven't read the original article, so this is speculation).

Finally, someone else gets it!
Unfortunately everyone is ignoring these logical posts for some reason. I guess they secretly want this to happen.

Originally Posted by ExoByte

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ch-screen.html



More links, from duplicate threads by other members that were merged into this one:
http://www.mediafire.com/?gmlefuzunng
http://www.physorg.com/news148193433.html
http://gizmodo.com/5107377/new-techn...eams-on-screen
-Shift

Sounds cool, but it would totally ruin the fun of having dreams, especially lucid dreams. The fun of lucid dreaming wouldn't be as fun if you could check out what you dreamt later

Originally Posted by Walms

yay! That sounds so cool, now to wait for the device to be complete, then public... then to arrive here, and then to get a better comp that can actually record a movie withouth extreme lag <.<

Sooooo.... 2101?

OMFG!!! this is Awesome! though i found out about this from my brother like just 3 months ago. wanted to add my opinion. So exciting!!! just think no more having to improve dream recall! damn i love those crazy asians only japenese people would be crazy enough to think of this haha i could totally make my own movie when lucid though its gonna be scary once they figure out how to read thoughts an shit.... but even with the drawbacks i believe its still worth it! think about it even though airplanes can do a lot of bad things (like dropping bombs) can you honestly say you'd rather they never been invented? if you can your lying! b/c of airplanes we can travel around the world without it taking like 2yrs.i guess what im trying to say is it can be good or bad depending on how people use it, an you cant control EVERYONE so there no doubt itll be used for some bad things buttt...theres no point in being paranoid about it or else youll miss out on the awesomeness of it

Originally Posted by tommo

Finally, someone else gets it!
Unfortunately everyone is ignoring these logical posts for some reason. I guess they secretly want this to happen.

Fixed it.

Originally Posted by tommo

Finally, someone else gets it!
Unfortunately everyone is ignoring these logical posts for some reason. I guess they secretly want this to happen.

Of course, your definition of "logical" seems to differ radically than that of some of the rest of us.

The definition of logical isn't subjective so mine is exactly the same as yours is if you know what it means.

So if you do I'm guessing you just misread the article or just took what everyone else said as gospel. Either way you have become fallen into a logical fallacy and you FAIL!

Thats Cool! Its amazing how far technology has advanced in 100 years.

dream journals will be rendered useless.