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      why do the Japanese seem to accomplish everything first?

      assuming that people's brain activity scans react similarly to the same images, sounds, etc, then I can believe that this is a reality.

      after thinking about it, it's scary how predictable the human brain may be.
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      That would be awesome for people to see your dreams. I would love to record mine and play them back.
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      Quote Originally Posted by AirRick101 View Post
      why do the Japanese seem to accomplish everything first?

      assuming that people's brain activity scans react similarly to the same images, sounds, etc, then I can believe that this is a reality.

      after thinking about it, it's scary how predictable the human brain may be.
      Yes the brain is predictable. However we can't predict it, not yet anyway.
      And they didn't say whether everybody's mental response to it was the same. I'm assuming it wasn't. So to predict someones future behaviour you would have to analyse their whole brain using this method. Everything they've ever learned. Then you'd have to follow them around programming everything they see into a mega super fast computer to predict how they could react to any stimuli.

      But in theory, yes the brain is predictable. For instance a child psychologist back in the 1950's or some time around that, I can't remember exactly, and a few other people have done studies (really undercover sort of ones, like shit you see in movies lol) where they separate two identical twins at birth and don't tell the parents or anything.

      They found that most of them, when meeting up 30-40 years down the track, are surprised at how similar they and their lives are. Like same jobs and past jobs, or at least the same field. They have the same gestures etc. that we usually assume are uniquely our own. Basically VERY similar personalities. And the scientists gathered from this data that genes are responsible for as much as 70-80% of who we are. Whereas it was previously thought genetics and environment shared the role 50-50.

      It's quite interesting but really holds no importance. So no it's not scary. You can just keep playing the game even if you know it's somewhat predetermined. And you CAN change your mind extensively if you try. But I s'pose you were always gonna do that from the beginning anyway. HAHA
      Never know.... that's what makes it interesting. And nobody will ever be able to tell anybody which of their actions happened because of genes or environment. Unless you're an identical twin....

      So take what you will from that and apply it to this experiment. Or maybe it won't make sense since everyone has chosen to mis-read it, save about 3 people including myself. Meh, your loss.

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      My dreams would make the best movies ever. I have actually had dreams where I've "watched" entire films that were effortlessly made up by my subconscious and they were some of the most interesting things I've ever seen. If only I could channel that creativity in my waking life, I might be making millions by now...

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      Reminds me of the movie, Paprika, where scientists develop a device to see inside people's dreams.

      In the movie, terrorists get a hold of it and tinker with it so it can put images in the brain and then they go around driving people insane with dreams. Hopefully, that won't happen in real life.

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      i don't want a scientist reconstructing or seeing my dreams..its mine, for my own personal viewing, mabye they could start putting commercials in your dreams soon( this happened on a futurama episode)

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      This is awesome, i guess 30-40 years down the road they'll come out with the first Dream recorder for a few thousand bucks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Walms View Post
      yay! That sounds so cool, now to wait for the device to be complete, then public... then to arrive here, and then to get a better comp that can actually record a movie withouth extreme lag <.<
      There probably wouldn't be that much lag with todays hardware. With the new Intel i7 processors, those things can do just about anything >3

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      Quote Originally Posted by dostoevskyblue View Post
      i don't want a scientist reconstructing or seeing my dreams..its mine, for my own personal viewing, mabye they could start putting commercials in your dreams soon( this happened on a futurama episode)
      Sometimes i think science goes too far i think we all know too much ahh my brain i wonder what they will use this for.
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      To the people who are worried about this being a problem: Have you seen an MRI machine? They're huge! Not to mention you have to stay completely still and not be wearing metal for them to work. I wouldn't be too worried about people recording your dreams without you knowing.

      And about reversing the technology to advertise: Assuming they use this technology, they would have to somehow stimulate each little square of the visual cortex individually. I can't think of any way that would be possible without brain surgery, and I think you'd notice that too. And if you let them do surgery on you, then, well, make sure you have a good lawyer. =P

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      Personally, in my opinion, that would suck.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Muggler View Post
      Personally, in my opinion, that would suck.
      Why?

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      Crazy that someone bumps this right after I read this:
      http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/09/25/b...red/index.html

      They're getting closer

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Oh man... you know how some people think DCs are real, sentient beings? Makes me wonder if something like the aclu would get on that I'd laugh.
      This brings up an interesting possibility. If there are people who share dreams, appearing in other peoples dreams as dreasm characters, than the ability to record dreams would prove this, right?

      I mean, you'd see the same things, just from different points of view.

      Neat.

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      Quote Originally Posted by John11 View Post
      Crazy that someone bumps this right after I read this:
      http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/09/25/b...red/index.html

      They're getting closer
      The analyzing internal speech and saying it out loud part sounds interesting. That could be handy if you're mute.

      I'm confused though. First they say that they're not just picking the image from a set, then they say that they are... Oh wait, I get it. Now they're choosing which image it is without knowing what the subject's brain looks like when seeing the picture beforehand.

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      Didnt read everyones post so forgive me if im not the first to think of this...

      Why only dreams??? As an artist i would love to be able to visualize something and have it draw on a screen or directly to the observers eyes. Like Vulcan Mindmeld man

      Cool but scary stuff...

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      Pardon me if this was asked before in this thread, but where are the images that people's brains projected on to screens? Shouldn't they be in the article?
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      WakingNomad: The first article had a picture of "neuron" spelled out, if I remember correctly. I also found a youtube video awhile back that showed the actual screen as the people looked at various things; I'll see if I can find it again.

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      Some seem to be worried that people will be monitoring our dreams against our will. We all have phones, how many of your phones are being monitored by police/government/whatever? Surely if the technology ever becomes mainstream, there will be a way to secure it. How about a password into your brain/dream recordings, but you don't type it or anything, you imagine the password?

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      That would be intense. Your password could be like anything.

      There'll probably be a better way for it to recognize that it's you, though.

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      I cannot wait for the technology to be released to the public. I am going to try to get is as soon as I can so I can watch my dreams.
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      Good luck with that zeldafreak. It probably won't be sold to the public for a loooong time, and once it is it'll probably be super expensive until it becomes mainstream, if it ever does. Besides, fMRI machines are huge.

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