Thread: I don't want Lucid Dreaming to be popular

I dont understand why people dont care about lucid dreaming though. What isnt attractive about going to sleep and getting to act out all of your fantasies?

Originally Posted by Waterknight

I dont understand why people dont care about lucid dreaming though. What isnt attractive about going to sleep and getting to act out all of your fantasies?

It's the reason the DV community is so similiar...

I don't think it will happen; I saw Inception over a month ago, and just found out about lucid dreaming two nights ago. And also, I don't remember them ever saying "lucid dreaming" anywhere in the movie.

Originally Posted by TexanDreamer

I don't think it will happen; I saw Inception over a month ago, and just found out about lucid dreaming two nights ago. And also, I don't remember them ever saying "lucid dreaming" anywhere in the movie.

They didn't. Which I thoroughly appreciate.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

They didn't. Which I thoroughly appreciate.

I second this. Can you imagine dreamviews right now if inception mentioned lucid dreaming? And then if they told the audience that they could do it too? It would be inception fan mayhem! There would be no end to the totem and shared dreaming questions..

I completely get why you wouldn't want lucid dreaming to be popular. I know that if it did get popular I would be a bit irritated. It's one of the things that makes me feel unique. If everyone's doing it then I won't feel like as much of an individual. This is a common thing for me. Chevelle, my favorite band in the entire universe, I love them to death, but I want them to be only MY favorite band. Selfish, I know.

Anyway, has anyone even considered the consequences of having EVERYONE be into lucid dreaming. It may not be all cookies and rainbows.

Dream sharing has become a popular topic in this forum. What if criminals decide to take it to a different level. Some of us may not take so well to having our minds invaded. I can imagine people committing suicide because of 'dream bullying'...and people being manipulated into doing things they never thought they'd do. People can go INSANE because someone got into their head and fricken messed them up.

...And what would we do if dream invasion became a common thing? There's no such thing as dream police. Can you even arrest someone for hurting you in your dream? How can you prove they did it?

What if we get some nutcases that start confusing dreaming with reality? They might kill themselves!


No! Our corrupt society isn't even ready to take on dreaming! It would be CATASTROPHIC!

Except dream sharing is a complete myth without any evidence ever collected in a scientific trial.

I don't think a movie would create such long term enthusiasm throughout people even if it was called lucid dreaming.. altho a lot of people would think it is cool, most people are more interested in making money or the waking world to even take a second look and put their time an energy into practicing it.

It shouldn't take anything away from your lucid dreams themselfs, maybe the social side of lucid dreaming mainstream would get irritating but why let society govern your personal feelings and decisions and turn it into boring just because now everyone else is doing it?

Originally Posted by YouAngerMe

I completely get why you wouldn't want lucid dreaming to be popular. I know that if it did get popular I would be a bit irritated. It's one of the things that makes me feel unique. If everyone's doing it then I won't feel like as much of an individual. This is a common thing for me. Chevelle, my favorite band in the entire universe, I love them to death, but I want them to be only MY favorite band. Selfish, I know.

Anyway, has anyone even considered the consequences of having EVERYONE be into lucid dreaming. It may not be all cookies and rainbows.

Dream sharing has become a popular topic in this forum. What if criminals decide to take it to a different level. Some of us may not take so well to having our minds invaded. I can imagine people committing suicide because of 'dream bullying'...and people being manipulated into doing things they never thought they'd do. People can go INSANE because someone got into their head and fricken messed them up.

...And what would we do if dream invasion became a common thing? There's no such thing as dream police. Can you even arrest someone for hurting you in your dream? How can you prove they did it?

What if we get some nutcases that start confusing dreaming with reality? They might kill themselves!


No! Our corrupt society isn't even ready to take on dreaming! It would be CATASTROPHIC!

This is the silliest thing I've read today, no offense.

I was thinking what the after "It may not be all cookies and rainbows." but then couldn't stop laughing.

Originally Posted by jasonresno

This is the silliest thing I've read today, no offense.

That's just mean.

But...

Seriously.

I can't trust the rest of the world to not screw up LDing for the rest of us.

What about protesters? "LDers are the spawn of Satan"....and such.

Or

People who won't stay awake because they're obsessed with LDing.

YouAngerMe, I read your post.. And I probably would understand your concern if I wasn't as sceptical as I am about the topic..

That's the only reason I laughed... "Dream Bullying" is not as feasible as it sounds... There will probably never come a time where the average "Joe" will believe in shared dreaming, just because some say it's possible..

There may come a time where Lucid Dreaming becomes popular... but shared dreaming; is unlikely to be proven... (In the near future, that is)

dont worry .People in general are ignorant fools .Even if they know they can get everything they want .They ll just say its to good to be true or some lame excuse for being an idiot.
When you tell ur friends about lucid dreaming 50%says that cant be true 40% says meh 9% says cool , im not going to do it 1% actually gives it a try

Originally Posted by diert

dont worry .People in general are ignorant fools .Even if they know they can get everything they want .They ll just say its to good to be true or some lame excuse for being an idiot.
When you tell ur friends about lucid dreaming 50%says that cant be true 40% says meh 9% says cool , im not going to do it 1% actually gives it a try

Exactly, I'm happy it's only 1% percent that try it out... I wouldn't want idiots who are just looking for a quick fix to get away from there lives.. (Although, I have nothing against escapism)

Originally Posted by PXUmais

Exactly, I'm happy it's only 1% percent that try it out... I wouldn't want idiots who are just looking for a quick fix to get away from there lives.. (Although, I have nothing against escapism)

I learned by myself before ever hearing about lucid dreaming (though even when I was little and even more so now it was rare for me to have them) but after using them for a while I eventually got to where I used them as an escape from all of reality instead of just an escape from gravity. If I am fighting with someone in real life I may still be close friends with them in the dreamworld

Originally Posted by Waterknight

I learned by myself before ever hearing about lucid dreaming (though even when I was little and even more so now it was rare for me to have them) but after using them for a while I eventually got to where I used them as an escape from all of reality instead of just an escape from gravity. If I am fighting with someone in real life I may still be close friends with them in the dreamworld

I emphasize the part: "quick fix"..

The people that are eluded by videos/movies and the ones that think that LDs, can be induced in an instant are the ones that would bug me... If people arrived at this forum, and after ONE day, were already posting that there fed up because they've had no LD yet... That would be quite annoying..

Normally a person, would of surfed the forum for at least a couple of days and understood some of the concepts in LDing before posting questions... (The people I mentioned probably wouldn't do that)

P.S. I think I've posted this twice, but: I like the fact that the people here are similar to each other because they have similar goals...

Originally Posted by Waterknight

I eventually got to where I used them as an escape from all of reality instead of just an escape from gravity. If I am fighting with someone in real life I may still be close friends with them in the dreamworld

Everybody's wanted Escapism at, at least one point in their life... There's nothing wrong with that, until you become ignorant of the topic your searching upon...

It's a bit selfish that I want LDing to be restricted I know, but IMO I just don't think this forum would ever be the same then...

I want lucid dreaming to be popular.

I want everyone in the whole world to lucid dream. We would have a better global society if everyone were lucid dreamers.

I'll just pipe in and say that this here Noob got here primarily because of the movie Inception. I actually had visited (according to my browser's history) once before, I think when I was talking to a friend in the Seattle area about it a couple years ago (Nate True, creator of Tap Tap Revolution). But it was the movie that got me surfing till late in the night, and this community and your stories catalyzed my interest enough to start reading two great books about it and to start practicing. Last night was my first, woohoo! (put it in the dream journal). I get the concern of being flooded here, or LD being cheapened, but it sure would be inspiring for people to have LDs and to start experimenting/learning more about consciousness in general. Cheers, Leif

Just out of curiosity, Pronoia, what books were they? I think I'd be interested in reading them

one should defines one self-worth internally, not externally.

i am fairly new here but have been into LD for a while, and i do grow agitated at questions without any research, but i think the potential benefits far outweighs the annoyances. new LDers will come and go, most of them quickly. but there will be a few that it will stick with and better their lives.

Originally Posted by TexanDreamer

Just out of curiosity, Pronoia, what books were they? I think I'd be interested in reading them

Hi TExanDreamer....
The books are:

• Lucid Dreaming: A gateway to the inner self
  
  The Lucid Dreamer: A Waking Guide for the Traveler Between Worlds

The former is on my kindle, the latter, is too beautiful and image-rich for anything but hard-copy. Links go to Amazon descriptions.

And I'm still trying to figure out why I'm suffering this for the first time in months (At four in the morning). Anyway. I can see where you're coming from but I don't like the idea that most people are idiots. Call me naive, but I like to think that under all that fear of being a reject, the average person can think for themselves too. And potential is good enough for me

Well what I wouldn't want is people thinking lucid dreaming is some kind of devil worship, or something that is "dangerous". You know, people who think they know what they are talking about when they just heard about lucid dreaming. Some of the things people on here say about their peers opinion on lucid dreaming is ridiculous. Especially when they are just hearing about it.

I'm not sure how I would feel about it being all mainstreamed though.

Originally Posted by Pronoia

Hi TExanDreamer....
The books are:
[LIST]
Lucid Dreaming: A gateway to the inner self

this is the book that got me back into it after almost 15 years.