Thread: Am I a rapist?

Originally Posted by Prince_RIP

lol....ummm...some of us don't think clouds and gardens are the funnest things in the world when we can do anything...lol. And why would a heal a person who is only crippled because my mind made him that way? lol. If you think looking at gardens and clouds is the epitome of fun then by all means, do that in your lucid dreams. Some of us think there is stuff to do that is more fun.

You clearly completely missed his point. It must have gone right over your head.

He's pointing out how your dreams are littered with immoral elements, and he's pointing out the absurdity in pinning anyone morally responsible for them.

He does make that point, but I don't think it's very relevant.

We're debating the morality of thoughts and desires. Is it wrong to sexually desire rough sex/rape? Is it wrong to fantasize about that? Is it wrong to privately fantasize about it in your dreams?

Originally Posted by TheEnthusiast

You clearly completely missed his point. It must have gone right over your head.

He's pointing out how your dreams are littered with immoral elements, and he's pointing out the absurdity in pinning anyone morally responsible for them.

He does make that point, but I don't think it's very relevant.

We're debating the morality of thoughts and desires. Is it wrong to sexually desire rough sex/rape? Is it wrong to fantasize about that? Is it wrong to privately fantasize about it in your dreams?

Yeahhh i didn't get the point...I misread it...I just read the first part and inserted a certain tone into it and didn't read the last sentence...it can be hard to sense internet sarcasm. Yet trying to make me look stupid by saying "it must have gone right over your head" just makes you look like a douchebag internet tough guy. Obviously I misread it, that doesn't have anything to do with my intelligence, I just misread it, so there's no sense in being a dick about it.

This thread is still going? Horny kid wanted sex but had a moral dilema when he realized that normally, you can't just grab and randomly do a chick, but since it was a dream, he could do anything. The simple acknowledgement of the difference between reality and dream shows that he understands.

Originally Posted by TheEnthusiast

.....We're debating the morality of thoughts and desires. Is it wrong to sexually desire rough sex/rape? Is it wrong to fantasize about that? Is it wrong to privately fantasize about it in your dreams?

Yes indeed, it seems that we're debating the morality of thoughts and desires, but why?
Morality or not, it's not ours to debate. What is immoral to one is fine to others in LDs. Frankly I don't care what others wish to LD about, it's nothing to do with me or anyone else for that matter, and it's a complete waste of time discussing the issue!

I'm waiting for the true question that's really being asked here, to which a lot of people seemed to have missed completely!!....

The real question jeffreydc want's to know is....Are all DC's in LDs just mindless beings simply there for pleasure or not? This DC seemed to him to have an independent character all of her own.
Being a nice chap in RL, he's now in a dilemma because if SOME DCs are a kind of "Dream Sharing Contact" with a real person sleeping in her bed...then he feel awful!!
So he's come here to try and find out from you kind people!!

I've quite a few unusual encounters with DCs before, not all are minless things as I've discovered. One young lady I met recently in a LD said she was a "hedge throw Witch" (whatever that is). She was in fact rather rude to me after I asked her if she was just my DC, she then had me picking tree bark and flowers for her, and promptly left without saying thanks or good bye! I have no idea what happened or caused this LD, for I have not been thinking anything like this at all!

Originally Posted by Watchman

Yes indeed, it seems that we're debating the morality of thoughts and desires, but why?
Morality or not, it's not ours to debate. What is immoral to one is fine to others in LDs. Frankly I don't care what others wish to LD about, it's nothing to do with me or anyone else for that matter, and it's a complete waste of time discussing the issue!

I'm waiting for the true question that's really being asked here, to which a lot of people seemed to have missed completely!!....

The real question jeffreydc want's to know is....Are all DC's in LDs just mindless beings simply there for pleasure or not? This DC seemed to him to have an independent character all of her own.
Being a nice chap in RL, he's now in a dilemma because if SOME DCs are a kind of "Dream Sharing Contact" with a real person sleeping in her bed...then he feel awful!!
So he's come here to try and find out from you kind people!!

I've quite a few unusual encounters with DCs before, not all are minless things as I've discovered. One young lady I met recently in a LD said she was a "hedge throw Witch" (whatever that is). She was in fact rather rude to me after I asked her if she was just my DC, she then had me picking tree bark and flowers for her, and promptly left without saying thanks or good bye! I have no idea what happened or caused this LD, for I have not been thinking anything like this at all!

Good point. Don't fuck with witches by the way.

Yeah, just look at Conan. Now that was hot sex.

My opinion: It's your dream. Choosing to rape someone won't make you rape someone in real life, but it might, just might indicate a desire to. One can surmise that there is clearly a subliminal desire to force yourself onto someone (not talking about Jeff, more about the other chaps who say they like it), but no one, not even yourself, can understand if those desires will ever overpower your morality. Making the entire debate moot.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Good point. Don't fuck with witches by the way.

Ooops ok! Many thanks....but no, I wouldn't "Dream" of doing anything inappropriate to a witch!

Unless I'm very sure (by asking), I always stay respectful to others in dreams, for I never know for sure who (or what) I'm really talking to!

Originally Posted by Prince_RIP

Yeahhh i didn't get the point...I misread it...I just read the first part and inserted a certain tone into it and didn't read the last sentence...it can be hard to sense internet sarcasm. Yet trying to make me look stupid by saying "it must have gone right over your head" just makes you look like a douchebag internet tough guy. Obviously I misread it, that doesn't have anything to do with my intelligence, I just misread it, so there's no sense in being a dick about it.

I didn't try to make you look stupid. You did that yourself by replying to a forum post that you didn't even bother to read or understand.

And as for my "it must have gone right over your head comment", I think you can see that's an honest mistake. I mistook you for somebody incapable of understanding the post, when you're really just someone who replies to posts before trying to fully read or understand them.

Okay. Maybe now you can argue that I'm being a dick, but this is good character building for you.

Read the posts that you choose to reply to.
Lovingly,
TheEnthusiast.

Use some dream logic, tell her she has to have sex because the moon has a hole in it and it will burn your shoes up if you don't get laid.

Originally Posted by Moose

Use some dream logic, tell her she has to have sex because the moon has a hole in it and it will burn your shoes up if you don't get laid.

I like your style, friend.

Jesus people stop the debating its not a big deal he wanted to have sex in a lucid dream so he made it happen we all knwo he's not gonna do it in real life its perfectly fine basically he just masturbated no big deal

Originally Posted by GabrielG

Jesus people stop the debating its not a big deal he wanted to have sex in a lucid dream so he made it happen we all knwo he's not gonna do it in real life its perfectly fine basically he just masturbated no big deal

That's true. People have allowed themselves to be hooked and "snagged" on the sexual morality side of dreams. It's just human nature I suppose.

It's not a big deal, I've tried to have sex too (on my first lucid) and I didn't even ask. But don't do it all the time or you might just end up doing it in real life.

Half the time in my Lucids and regular dreams alike the girls just basically throw it on me. It reflects how I am in real life though. I could have gotten laid so many times in real life but Im still a virgin because I am the shiest guy you will ever see around. In real life it would have to basically be thrown on me for me to take it. Though sometimes very rarely it will be my "idea" in a dream and the DCs never resist.

Yeah, I once had to wake myself up from dreamsex with this French babe because the three Latino chicks I'd banged the night before in real life wanted morning sex.

And, why do we need a place to practice behavior? Are we born wise and sane, or must we learn to become it?

I dont know what side you are on. But ill give my opinion. I think we must learn to become it. Like shame, nobody would be ashamed to walk around naked unless society tought them that. If you were born an adult would you have any problem being naked?

Back to the topic. Did you become lucid and say "i want to rape that girl."? No you said i want to have sex. She was resisting but you knew that you didnt have much time so you had to do the deed with an unwilling partner.

The other question you need to ask yourself is. "would you even ASK a stranger if they wanted to have sex? Probably not. But everyone has there own opinion and thats okay. Your intitled to your beliefs and morals. But just look at it from a differient angle.

Oh yeah i would like to note that the girl in the dream never even said she didnt want to do it. Just because you werent the one she would want to have sex with doesnt mean that you raped her, and it doesnt mean she wasnt willing.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

Oh yeah i would like to note that the girl in the dream never even said she didnt want to do it. Just because you werent the one she would want to have sex with doesnt mean that you raped her, and it doesnt mean she wasnt willing.

Originally Posted by jeffreydc

She wasnt a very "willing" partner but went along with the program anyhow. It was weird that this dream character that I created had her own identity and went along with it even though I could tell she didnt want to.

This thread is still hilarious by the way.

Originally Posted by Xel

This thread is still hilarious by the way.

Yes, yes it is.

"Am I a rapist?" And "I have never and would never do this in my waking life." Stop begging for attention, you just answered your own question.

Originally Posted by Nwonkun

"Am I a rapist?" And "I have never and would never do this in my waking life." Stop begging for attention, you just answered your own question.

I think his moral dilemma has something to do with the question of, "Is doing it wrong, or is doing it to someone wrong?"

I dont know if I rape my girls in LD's but usually when I realize I'm dreaming I look around and find a good looking chick and just start pulling her clothes off, they never really object or say much about it. sometimes they are like "stop it.. cmon..." and i just tell them to shut the fuck up LOL. Hey it's my dream so whatever. The other night I found a chick with 3 boobs!

You're all rapists in my book.

This thread = EP1C LULZ

When I play games I like cutting people to pieces, slitting throats, burning them, etc. Does that make me a murderer? No. I wouldn't even be able to punch my biggest enemy without feeling guilty about punching him.