Thread: False Lucid Dreams?

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

ah, interesting. So you know you are dreaming, but just act on autopilot?

Yeah, something like that.
Sometimes I even did reality check or trying to change the dream scene, but it all happened without awareness, I can only watch my self doing it.

man, it's not too hard to understand.
A lucid dream is a dream in where you know you are dreaming.

A False Lucid Dream is just a dream, in where the plot is about you "knowing" you are dreaming.
now listen, you DON'T KNOW you are dreaming, you just act like so being driven by the dream, is that simple.

I have this thing EVERY TIME. it's very annoying. "You" know it's a dream, but you do things that you would never do in a LD. And there's things that happen where you would go "WHAT?" but you don't do anything.

Originally Posted by Mariano

man, it's not too hard to understand.
A lucid dream is a dream in where you know you are dreaming.

When someone has a dream about being lucid, it is just a non-lucid dream.
now listen, you DON'T KNOW you are dreaming, you just act like so being driven by the dream, is that simple.

Fixed.

Mariano is right about one thing; if you knew you where dreaming, then you were Lucid. Even if you were on autopilot, from what I can tell from your posts, you did have a Lucid Dream.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Interesting. So you felt like an outside observer to what your dream self was doing?



So, you were unaware of your physical body, you had no idea who your waking self is, but you were aware of the dream state?

Not exactly. It's like a normal dream, you always have a vague sense of your normal life, even if the dream events are nothing like your normal life. Can't you think of a dream where the events are nothing like your real life? You go about doing events that make no sense in comparison to your waking life, seeing things that make no sense, but you usually know in the back of your mind that it's you, you just can't normally piece together the logic that what you're doing is strange because you're dreaming.


I wasn't really observing the events that I was doing from the outside, it was me doing it, I was in control. But my sense of logic was so low (like in a normal dream) that I couldn't piece together why my actions, and even my identity, seemed out-of-the-ordinary.

Since I was in a low-logic dream, my idea of dreaming was also low-logic. So when I was dreaming in that dream, the dream inside the dream involved me talking to people like the really existed, and generally not having a great idea of what lucid dreaming is.

Therefore my "lucid" just seemed fake, because of my low sense of logic.

I had no idea that I had gone to sleep in my room a few hours prior and was dreaming.

Originally Posted by Snowy Egypt

Fixed.

Mariano is right about one thing; if you knew you where dreaming, then you were Lucid. Even if you were on autopilot, from what I can tell from your posts, you did have a Lucid Dream.

but remember, knowing you are dreaming brings an unmistakable awareness of the fact, so you can easily tell if it was lucid or not.


Invasor:
You can tell from your experiences if you were lucid or not, in fact, the one who can judge what happened is you, don't let anybody change the way you think.

I believe that I've had these types of dreams before, including last night and 2 nights ago. If these are the 'lucid' dreams I've been having, then I've never been properly lucid before.

Originally Posted by martango

I believe that I've had these types of dreams before, including last night and 2 nights ago. If these are the 'lucid' dreams I've been having, then I've never been properly lucid before.

Just for clarity, could you describe you dreams? Maybe we can help determine if they were lucid or not.

heh OK I'll try. They were kind of hard to remember upon wakening.

Last night:
Well, I don't remember how I became lucid, but I was walking around and was able to earthbend (Avatar The Last Airbender). I didn't really do much in the dream, but I also remember performing the nose RC just to see what it felt like, and I felt myself breathe through my nose even though I was pinching it. It was a weird feeling. Then I was paying attention to my breathing and wondering whether I was breathing the same way in my bed. Because normally when I breath in through my nose and out through my mouth I need to close my mouth to breathe in, then open it to breathe out. Or do something weird with my throat...(Hard to describe).

2 Nights ago:
I realised I was dreaming by looking at my hand, which had a weird extra finger which was incredibly short. I was in my room(?) and ran out into the hallway and span around, asking to see my dream guide. Then some girl in a tight yellow suit appears () and so do some other people, the girl and I fight the other people, and that's all I remember.

In these 'lucid' dreams I didn't get any feeling of vividness and awareness... So I'm not really sure. I know I need to work on my recall, but I can never remember full dreams, just fragments of some.

I'm guessing, too, that these can be lower-level degrees of lucidity - I had one of these the other night and it really upset me. I have had real LDs before and I know that blast of reality and awareness that everybody mentions - it totally wasn't present in this dream; furthermore, this dream was more like a vague memory, like any old dream. I was definitely dreaming about lucid dreaming. But, since I was aware that I was dreaming, and since I did exert control (or think I did), I must have been lucid to some degree. I even remembered to spin around (or at least I dreamed that I remembered, LOL). Lucidity has varying levels, and these are probably on the lower end, but they are a step in the right direction at least.

Wow, I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one.

I've had approximately like 6 False Lucids without a real lucid yet.


In these dreams I always say like "I am dreaming", even tell it to other persons, and do things lucid-related like trying to fly, trying to summon someone, use The Force, etc.
All that but without consciousness, they are just like normal dreams.


I hope someday I will have a real LD, because these False ones are making me feel sad.

@ Those persons that say there is no such thing as False LD's, or many that say that if you say "I am dreaming" in a dream it's automatically a LD, are wrong. That's my opinion, maybe I'm the one wrong.


These FLD (False LD) are like memories, just like normal dreams.. And people say that Lucid Dreaming feels just like the real world..... I have had 0 LDs, so can someone answer to me if you can compare LDs to like ...for example Virtual Reality?

Everyone, please take a look at this sticky which explains misconceptions about lucidity and the so-called false lucidity.

To clarify--the ONLY requirement for a lucid dream is knowing you're dreaming. If you blindly follow the dream plot, or you don't think very clearly, or you don't have control, or you dream in the third person (as in watching it like a movie), this doesn't mean that you had some sort of "false" lucid--you just had a low quality lucid dream. Your clarity of thought and control will get better with practice.

Please stop perpetuating this misinformation.

I'm with you on this. I have "Very low quality lucid dreams" as well, where I dream that I'm reality checking, flying, jumping, messing with girls, etc. I can't wait till I get an extremely vivid and conscious one that I can remember distinctly like it actually just happened...

Reading through this thread, I'm starting to think "False Lucids" and "Low-level lucids" are just different ways of labeling the same thing. Both are dreams where you have the idea that you're dreaming without the full awareness and logic of waking life. Both are something we all want to move past to full-blown, vivid lucids.

Or am I missing something?

Originally Posted by Naiya

Everyone, please take a look at this sticky which explains misconceptions about lucidity and the so-called false lucidity.

To clarify--the ONLY requirement for a lucid dream is knowing you're dreaming. If you blindly follow the dream plot, or you don't think very clearly, or you don't have control, or you dream in the third person (as in watching it like a movie), this doesn't mean that you had some sort of "false" lucid--you just had a low quality lucid dream. Your clarity of thought and control will get better with practice.

Please stop perpetuating this misinformation.

My thoughts exactly. This thread closed, like the ones before it.