Thread: A recurring DC in my dreams which doesn't behave like any other DC's

That's pretty awesome, Hyu. I don't think she's a magical, self-sufficient entity or anything like that; she's probably just a really good Dream Guide. Did you read a lot about DGs here before finding her? Maybe your mind had a perception that she would be this incredible person, and now she's just the perfect dream character that your mind created because you wanted someone like that.

I can't help but feel jealous about Hyu's situation. Rarely anything interesting decides to take place inside my LDs. Nor does anything with even the slightest tinge of mystery.

Originally Posted by PXUmais

I can't help but feel jealous about Hyu's situation. Rarely anything interesting decides to take place inside my LDs. Nor does anything with even the slightest tinge of mystery.

Same Here, what a Dick... LOL just kidding.

I'm jealous, your dream guide sounds perfect, hope you feel better soon so we can hear more about her.

Originally Posted by Raetin

I'm jealous, your dream guide sounds perfect, hope you feel better soon so we can hear more about her.

I second this.
am also jealous.

"I'm jealous, your dream guide sounds perfect, hope you feel better soon so we can hear more about her."

Third.

Hyu, I have had very similar experiences paralleling yours.

Right now, the most important thing for you to do is to guard your energy. You can more easily be infected with unstable energy when you are weak. Focus on strengthening your aura.

As far as for the nature of this lady, it's for you to figure out on your own. I have walked the path you are on before you have, but my personal opinion is worthless.

Here are some questions you can ask this lady:

1) What is your name?

2) How do we know each other?

Here are some suggestions as far as dream actions:

1) Give her a gift

2) Give her a big hug

Originally Posted by Wristblade56

Hyu, what exactly do you mean by 'energy'? do you place the videogame-like limitation of mana and stuff on yourself?

I wouldn't say that I deliberately place a limitation on myself, though I do think it's an awesome idea for a fighting scenario.
It's more like, if I do something rather special, which seems to require a lot of concentration (really, energy is the only term that fits), I feel exhausted, and I can clearly feel that I have less energy that I did before.
When I talk about the perception of an other individual's (DC) energy I call it aura, because it seems like the term fits pretty well.

Originally Posted by GMoney

That's pretty awesome, Hyu. I don't think she's a magical, self-sufficient entity or anything like that; she's probably just a really good Dream Guide. Did you read a lot about DGs here before finding her? Maybe your mind had a perception that she would be this incredible person, and now she's just the perfect dream character that your mind created because you wanted someone like that.

It's certainly a possibility, though I had no idea what a DG was, I only read up on it after people suggested I look into it.
It's entirely possible that I was wishing to meet someone special though.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Hyu, I have had very similar experiences paralleling yours.

Right now, the most important thing for you to do is to guard your energy. You can more easily be infected with unstable energy when you are weak. Focus on strengthening your aura.

As far as for the nature of this lady, it's for you to figure out on your own. I have walked the path you are on before you have, but my personal opinion is worthless.

Here are some questions you can ask this lady:

1) What is your name?

2) How do we know each other?

Here are some suggestions as far as dream actions:

1) Give her a gift

2) Give her a big hug

Thanks, I will definitely follow your suggestions. I really like the idea of giving her a gift or a big hug to show my affection!
I'm curious that you mention you've had similar experiences, did you by any chance post them on these forums, or would you feel like sharing them?

So I just got around to checking up on this forum again and I love how quickly I was attacked for the things people assumed( assuming makes an ass out of U and ME, haha) I was stating. For one to say that someone's direct experience and amount of that experience has nothing to do with how well they understand what they practice as opposed to someone with far less practice? is just stupid. Your example of how well you know computers as opposed to many people who use the computer far more is not a very good example. For instance, someone who uses the email and browses websites hours a day, and someone who spends 2 hours a day learning website design, hacking, or some other much deeper computer skill cannot be compared side by side, because one of them has much deeper experience. So if anything, you make my point even better for me considering the person with much more lucid dreaming experience is also experiencing a much deeper state of the very thing you are speaking of.. EXPERIENCE and PRACTICE by DEFAULT makes someone much better at the very thing they are working on.. wow. its almost like you need someone to teach you your abc's or something... SECOND of all, I HAVE NEVER STATED that one of my opinions was the way it is, or that either of my opinions was a fact, in fact, I cited several different options for how each situation can be seen differently by a variety of people, and how in different situations, certain scenarios, IF THEY WERE POSSIBLE, would be more likely during ramped up states of the mind. A couple of people took the many possible theories I stated, and drew complete conclusions as to what they believed I said. FOR EXAMPLE. I said

"What a dream guide /spirit guide is supposed to be is open to many interpretations... and none of them can be wrong because it is just an interpretation. . ...It also makes sense to me that in this ramped up state of mind, if possible to contact spiritual entities of any kind, this would be the time that window of possibility would be wide open..." and WHITEMOUNTAIN replied "Once you say that the character Hyu met is a spirit living on the dream plane, then you've barred off logical debate. That statement is an opinion/interpretation that, although interesting, is not in any true sense of the word, believable. That is, it may instinctually feel right, or many people may agree with you, but until you offer valid evidence, there's no reason why I should believe that theory over the equally valid one that dreams and their characters are, let's say, the voice of a 2000 year old sand-monster that feeds on the dreams of humans. "

WOW.. Its amazing to me that I even have to explain this but I wrote "What a dream guide /spirit guide is supposed to be is open to many interpretations... and none of them can be wrong because it is just an interpretation" I stated that what a dream guide is supposed to be is OPEN TO MANY INTERPRETATIONS" Meaning that there are many ideas not just one. MANY ideas... then I stated.. "none of them can be wrong because it is just an interpretation." Right, once again, each idea on what these entities are or are not are completely open to interpretation because it is each persons own personal experience so only they can portray that experience to others... so anything beyond that are just opinions from others.... THEN I SAID "It also makes sense to me that in this ramped up state of mind, if possible to contact spiritual entities of any kind, this would be the time that window of possibility would be wide open..." Which is were the statement that I had barred off logical debate was made... really?? Well logically it has been scientifically proven that the brain is in a heightened state during the period of deep rem, the oxygen and blood levels to the brain are doubled and the electrical activity is through the roof.. I DID NOT SAY THAT just because of this you CAN contact spiritual entities, I said that it would make sense that "IF POSSIBLE TO CONTACT SPIRITUAL ENTITIES OF ANY KIND, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME THAT WINDOW OF POSSIBILITY WOULD BE WIDE OPEN", IF POSSIBLE means, maybe possible, maybe not possible and that this statement is leaving it up in the air. Go back through my entire post and show me one place where I said that ONE THING WAS AN EXACT FACT or HOW THINGS ARE BEYOND A REASONABLE doubt. I did not one time, in fact, I intentionally left all possibilities open and talked about different interpretations. Now this is where we go a little farther. IF YOU DO YOUR OWN research, OR ONCE YOUR EXPERIENCE with this forums and with knowing the people of these forums have grown, you will see that having a "dream guide" or Spritual Guide" is a very common thing amongst experienced lucid dreamers.... who knows what these characters really are, because in case I hadnt said it, it is open to interpretation, but they are a common experience. Please do not quote anything I say and make your own conclusions to what I mean, especially when I say that one thing of another is possible or open to some idea, and then you jump on either of those particular options that I stated and declare it as a fact I stated and try to "dubunk" it. Give me a break. Now I know why the beyond dreaming, and deep dreaming forums exists. Its because closed opinions and people who assume they know better than everyone else are not allowed. Thankfully. Lets keep this conversation Civil, and once again Hyu, I am looking forward to reading more about your experiences.

Wow it took longer than I thought to read through that, keep us updated though, really interesting stuff

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Hyu, I have had very similar experiences paralleling yours.

Right now, the most important thing for you to do is to guard your energy. You can more easily be infected with unstable energy when you are weak. Focus on strengthening your aura.

As far as for the nature of this lady, it's for you to figure out on your own. I have walked the path you are on before you have, but my personal opinion is worthless.

Here are some questions you can ask this lady:

1) What is your name?

2) How do we know each other?

Here are some suggestions as far as dream actions:

1) Give her a gift

2) Give her a big hug

Unstable Energy? infected? what do you mean?

Confuzzled,

Yes, she's insanely attractive and yes, she is very flirty, but there is no way I would do that.
I respect her way too much to even consider asking her something like that. :/

Whoah, dude. You mean we're not allowed to have sex with people we respect? Bummer! Now I gotta break the news to my wife.

Originally Posted by DoctorYikes

Whoah, dude. You mean we're not allowed to have sex with people we respect? Bummer! Now I gotta break the news to my wife.

lololololololol
ROFL

That was such a smart ass comment, but funny.

Originally Posted by DoctorYikes

Whoah, dude. You mean we're not allowed to have sex with people we respect? Bummer! Now I gotta break the news to my wife.

I don't think I can add much to this conversation, but I will try to keep an eye on it.

Update: Accessing old dream memories and creating a portal. - Dream Journals - Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource

Short version:
I "remembered" how to create portals to places far away.
I also remembered where "she" most likely is.
However the place was too far away, my current energy level was insufficient to open a portal safely.
I did however feel like I was supposed to visit her this time, not the other way around, and if I recover some more energy, I should be able to open the portal easily...

Originally Posted by DoctorYikes

Whoah, dude. You mean we're not allowed to have sex with people we respect? Bummer! Now I gotta break the news to my wife.

@DoctorYikes I think he respects her as a close friend, not a sex partner.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

@DoctorYikes I think he respects her as a close friend, not a sex partner.

It was a joke.

Can't wait to stay updated Hyu. Hopefully the rest of your winter break will yield some more interesting experiences before I have to start school

I want to open a portal but I suddenly realize the place is too far away, I don't have enough energy, at least not right now.
The planet is in the Andromeda galaxy... it is very far away.

I have a quick question: Why do you think distance exists in your dream? If a dream is even more subjective than physical reality, and as far as I'm concerned the DC/SG/whatever you want to call it/her is not in the material world, why should you, in your own mind, be limited by distance? Rather, I'm confused why you associate the "consumption of energy" (I personally don't believe in it and am very materialistic/hard-core athiest, but I have some years of experience with the occult/New Age stuff) with physical distance. At least for me, the notion of "distance" doesn't exist in my dreams; it's only used so that I, the dreamer, will not become utterly confused by the dream's apparent added complexity.

I'm curious. Therefore I am not attacking you, Hyu, so don't take my response directly at heart. As aforesaid, I'm just curious on what exactly your beliefs associated with "energy" are.

I have summoned countless number of things in my dreams, have changed my dream-scape a multiple amount of times, morphed my own body for personal reasons (), with some other actions I can't think of at the moment. I've never felt tired in my dreams; do you think your perceived feeling of mental fatigue is really just a self-placed illusion?
I'm aware I am offering anecdotal evidence, therefore you are free to disagree.

Originally Posted by mrcogllrdo

I have a quick question: Why do you think distance exists in your dream? If a dream is even more subjective than physical reality, and as far as I'm concerned the DC/SG/whatever you want to call it/her is not in the material world, why should you, in your own mind, be limited by distance? Rather, I'm confused why you associate the "consumption of energy" (I personally don't believe in it and am very materialistic/hard-core athiest, but I have some years of experience with the occult/New Age stuff) with physical distance. At least for me, the notion of "distance" doesn't exist in my dreams; it's only used so that I, the dreamer, will not become utterly confused by the dream's apparent added complexity.

I'm curious. Therefore I am not attacking you, Hyu, so don't take my response directly at heart. As aforesaid, I'm just curious on what exactly your beliefs associated with "energy" are.

I have summoned countless number of things in my dreams, have changed my dream-scape a multiple amount of times, morphed my own body for personal reasons (), with some other actions I can't think of at the moment. I've never felt tired in my dreams; do you think your perceived feeling of mental fatigue is really just a self-placed illusion?
I'm aware I am offering anecdotal evidence, therefore you are free to disagree.

This reminds me of the famous Morpheus quote: "Do you think that's air you're breathing now?" (from The Matrix)

You're right of course, and I'm not going to disagree with anything you've mentioned.

I'm writing down all my DJ entries the way I experience the dreams, not the way I rationalize them after waking up.
So, if in my dream, I feel like I can't overcome a distance, I will write down that I couldn't.
This doesn't mean that I think the distance should have played a role after I wake up.

I'm not sure why you relate energy consumption to religions or the occult.
I am an atheist myself, and I don't really know anything about the occult/New Age stuff you've mentioned.
It's just what I experience in my dreams, this is the only way I know how to describe it.

On a side note, the whole concept of being able to fully control my dreams is quite new to me.
Yes, I have had lucid dreams all my life, but I've only read about it like 4 months ago.
Before that, I've never talked to anyone about my dreams.

Ah...The Matrix

I just wanted to avoid a flame war. Nasty little things.

No, I understand perfectly what you mean. I used to have a couple of dreams where my vision was frozen in one spot. Didn't make sense whatsoever since I'm only a floating identity in my dreams, but nevertheless I was convinced my eyes were glued. It was only after some reflection and trying out some methods that the symptom went away. Cheers for dreams.

The concept of energy has a high possibility of being supernatural, since for the last century or so there hasn't been evidence of an energy that humans can tap into with their mind. Therefore the concept of energy, its types, usage, et cetera has mostly been explored by the occult/New Age stuff. Usually there's a religious belief attached to the supposed energy practice, so I stay on the safe side by stating I'm an atheist; people start to understand I really am a guy who only has experience, but is not planning to make any new ones with New Age-y stuff. However, you have stated that your view of energy only lies in your dreams; therefore you can disregard my particular comment concerning energy. I wasn't sure you were referring to the New Age definition of energy

I know what you mean. The only place I was able to find people who were willing to talk about lucid dreams was when I was 13 (internet). I started lucid dreaming when I was 5, so for the 8 years of ignorance about lucid dreaming I just honed my skills. Of course, my level of control quickly escalated when I researched about lucid dreaming, read some of LaBerge work, and other things of the sort. Good luck on your journey to hone your skills Assuming you want to.

Ah yes, I see why you'd make the connection to the occult/New Age stuff then.
I wasn't aware there were such similarities.

It's good to hear I'm not the only one who was ignorant and confused about lucid dreams for that long.
I only heard about it at the age of 24. :/

Originally Posted by Hyu

It's good to hear I'm not the only one who was ignorant and confused about lucid dreams for that long.
I only heard about it at the age of 24. :/

Yikes! Well, it's better to start somewhere than no where. Can't wait for your next update

Interesting...

Well maybe by some slim chance someone some how is managing to pull an Inception on you jk.

Originally Posted by Hyu

I wouldn't say that I deliberately place a limitation on myself, though I do think it's an awesome idea for a fighting scenario.
It's more like, if I do something rather special, which seems to require a lot of concentration (really, energy is the only term that fits), I feel exhausted, and I can clearly feel that I have less energy that I did before.
When I talk about the perception of an other individual's (DC) energy I call it aura, because it seems like the term fits pretty well.




It's certainly a possibility, though I had no idea what a DG was, I only read up on it after people suggested I look into it.
It's entirely possible that I was wishing to meet someone special though.



Thanks, I will definitely follow your suggestions. I really like the idea of giving her a gift or a big hug to show my affection!
I'm curious that you mention you've had similar experiences, did you by any chance post them on these forums, or would you feel like sharing them?

It begins in my old DJ.

Originally Posted by Wristblade56

Unstable Energy? infected? what do you mean?

The energy of a virus or bacteria.