Well, I call BS. we all know here that lucid dreaming is one of the most amazing experiences you can have. Who is he to say it's unnatural? it's our brain, and it's certainly NOT a disease. |
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Psychiatrist Dr. Armand Schachter at Grayson and associates says lucid dreaming is “abnormal, secondary to medication, secondary to brain disease, where you don’t want to have lucid dreaming. You want to dream only when you are unconscious. “ |
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Well, I call BS. we all know here that lucid dreaming is one of the most amazing experiences you can have. Who is he to say it's unnatural? it's our brain, and it's certainly NOT a disease. |
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Sounds like he has no clue what a lucid dream is. He's making assumptions about something he's probably never experienced. He's claiming a Lucid Dream indicates you aren't unconscious and your brain isn't resting enough, but anyone who's ever WILDed knows your body goes fully asleep and your cognitive mind is in the same state as a regular dream, whether or not you are aware that you're dreaming at the time. |
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Last edited by Omnis Dei; 02-19-2012 at 07:05 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Yeah, this is like saying that people that can do shared dreaming can make others incapable of dreaming again, which is really just nonsense. |
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Due to my ignorance on this subject matter, I can not say for certain whether or not I would agree with Dr. Armand Schachter. What I would like to know is the in depth reasoning behind his statement. He says lucid dreams don't happen while one is fully sleeping, thus preventing you from resting properly. I fail to see how that statement relates to what he also said stateing that lucid dreaming is secondary to medication and brain desiese. I also fail to see how the fact that lucid dreaming is an abnormality has to do with it being a bad thing. |
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Last edited by Hohenheim; 02-19-2012 at 07:40 PM.
I'm pretty sure everyone has had an LD in their life, but their recall was just too poor to remember it. So is everyone abnormal if LDing is such a bad occurence as they say? |
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We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.
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lol why does he not cite the experiments done in "brain resting" with LDers and normal dreamers? |
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I think he's full of it. He states how because you're conscious while dreaming you aren't getting enough rest, but that's just ridiculous, you get the majority of your rest from the 4 other stages of sleep. REM only takes up about 1/4 of your sleep, and your brain waves during are so similar to being awake because the waves are fast and active, while the other 4 stages are slower and relaxed (hence deep sleep). During lucid dreaming your brain waves show a majority of the fastest brain waves (Beta waves), while non-lucid shows more Alpha waves, which are slightly less active. I think lucid dreaming is beneficial in that sense because you're in a similar state of mind as being fully awake and it is a way to stimulate awareness which carries over during the day. It's like exercise for your brain |
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if he only knew how it can be... all that power... he would practice it as well... |
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Some people try to use pseudo-science or biased scientific research to back up fear. People have the tendency to be afraid of the unknown (lucid dreaming is unknown to many), and that can always have a significant negative impact on their perception of things. So I strongly disagree with this scientist. |
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"A class is like a dream; it makes sense at the time and you can't remember anything when it's over." -Me
"We typically have them when we're sleeping. One might have a couple a night or none at all. We're talking about dreams" |
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"Lucid dreaming: the ability to control or direct your own dreams." |
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Last edited by Burke; 02-20-2012 at 03:36 AM.
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