Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
Sure, i learned how to LD in a time with no internet, so I did not really understand stabilizing for a couple years. I still managed to have some good LDs. Being good at stabilizing is how you can stretch out the LD for the entire REM cycle, as long as 30-90 minutes if everything goes perfect. 90 minutes is ultra extreme, but 30 minutes should be attainable with good stabilization training. Not every time of course.
Exactly right. You might not think you need stabilization techniques, but they will help you extend your LDs and make them longer, even if you don't need to make them clearer. I use stabilization techniques if I ever need to improve clarity or quality, when I feel that a dream is fading out or I am about to wake up, and sometimes even when I don't need to improve anything about the dream but want to remind myself that I'm still lucid during a really long LD - often making me hyperlucid.