I was having mutual thoughts with the op of the thread "Questioning LD", Suckertrain. Unfortunately, I have yet to read all the replies, but I had my first lucid experience the other night, followed by excitement, followed by disappointment because I now believe our lucid dreams are just indeed, dreams about becoming lucid. Think about it... each preparation we do, from reality checks to interactions with dream characters, they're thought about in our waking lives in order to mimic similar ideas within our dreams. But I ask can anyone truly be spontaneous in a lucid dream? How many of these "spontaneous" thoughts are actually conscious ones? We can shift in and out of dream control. I think dream control is just a measurement of the amount of information we are able to retain from our waking lives. For example, we'll use a hypothetical dreamer- Tony. Tony argues he has better dream control when he can fly to a goal destination set in waking life, while he has a hard time "controlling" a dream if he did not have any set plans, before awareness. He finds his subconscious is deciding what to do for him. Does our subconsious control our memory? I know we all have to make a consious effort to complete reality checks, but only when it became a 2nd nature, did I begin to repeat these reality checks in my dreams.
So if lucid dreaming is just a dream in which you believe you levy the results , would this matter to you? Or would it all be the same? I guess it boils down to the question what do you enjoy about lucid dreaming? The idea of reality, or the recall/ sharing the adventures of your subconsious....which would actually come down to ...

Which do you prefer reality or dreams?
(for those who argue reality is the state of mind, by "reality I mean waking life )

My answer being the latter is why I am less interested in lucidity than ever before. Even if I can do things I can't necessarily do in waking life,it's only more assorted thoughts that allow me to become lucid. The joy of recalling my dreams is that I never think of dream scenarios in waking life. My lucid recall disables the primary function of dreaming, even if I was able control what I dreamt.