Thread: How can i wake up naturally after each dream?

Alarm doesn't work good for me.I would like to know how to train myself to wake up after every dream.

Originally Posted by tasinios

Alarm doesn't work good for me.I would like to know how to train myself to wake up after every dream.

Firstly, I would suggest finding when REM occurs. I'm still working on mine. I've found out when dreams occur when the night is coming to a end, 7 and 8 hours mine occur.

Note all of your awakings on a night, we wake up a few times each night but are unaware of it.

Mantras can be used to wake you up during dreams. Also drinking 2-4 glasses of water will also wake you up multiple times in the night.

Originally Posted by tasinios

Alarm doesn't work good for me.I would like to know how to train myself to wake up after every dream.

First, I have to ask: Why do you feel a need to wake up after every dream?

If it is to record them, you might consider that it might be helpful to have a good-quality sleep to foster the best of dreams. Interrupting that sleep every hour or so (much more often after five or six hours' sleep) to write down your dreams might do more harm than good to your lucid efforts. Why not just write down the dreams you remember in the morning, plus maybe the ones from which you wake naturally in the night?

There really is no rule that you must record all of your dreams; recording some dreams is sufficient to help you learn to recall them better on your own and to recognize dreamsigns. I don't think that recording all of them will accelerate you down the path to LD'ing, if that is what you had in mind. Not only that, but many dreams are simply not worth recording, and you might find the process a bit tedious or even silly if you ever do manage to record all of your dreams.

So I would suggest that you be content with noting your dreams when you can, but that you try not to make recording all of them too important.

On the same note:

Originally Posted by Habba

Firstly, I would suggest finding when REM occurs. I'm still working on mine. I've found out when dreams occur when the night is coming to a end, 7 and 8 hours mine occur.

REM periods occur throughout the sleep cycle, with the first one usually beginning around 90 minutes after you fall asleep; there is not only one REM period.

That said, though, REM periods do occur more closely together as your night's sleep progresses, so you do indeed have a much better chance of catching REM after 5 or so hours' sleep... so you will tend to find REM quite easily after 7 hours' sleep.

Also:

Note all of your awakings on a night, we wake up a few times each night but are unaware of it.

It is true that we wake up several times during the night, often after a REM period finishes; it is also true that we usually fail to notice or remember those awakenings, due both to their brevity and that they are not normally stored in memory. Though I personally see no need to note when they happen, because they will happen at different times every night, it is a good idea, I think, to learn to recognize these micro-awakenings as they occur, because doing so heightens your ability to recall your dreams, helps increase your access to memory, and help you to be better able to do WBTB's or DEILD's at appropriate times.

I think the bottom line here is that things like knowing specifically when REM periods or micro-awakenings occur or recording every dream you have are not as important as they are made to be on these forums and in so many well-meaning books. I honestly believe that clouding your mind and cluttering your time, focus, and effort with all these details tends to slow your pace toward consistent lucidity rather than accelerate it. So try not to make a major project of things like this. What is important, instead, is that you properly prepare your mind for lucidity, and learn to naturally and calmly notice the correct times to enter it.

Originally Posted by Sageous

First, I have to ask: Why do you feel a need to wake up after every dream?

If it is to record them, you might consider that it might be helpful to have a good-quality sleep to foster the best of dreams. Interrupting that sleep every hour or so (much more often after five or six hours' sleep) to write down your dreams might do more harm than good to your lucid efforts. Why not just write down the dreams you remember in the morning, plus maybe the ones from which you wake naturally in the night?

There really is no rule that you must record all of your dreams; recording some dreams is sufficient to help you learn to recall them better on your own and to recognize dreamsigns. I don't think that recording all of them will accelerate you down the path to LD'ing, if that is what you had in mind. Not only that, but many dreams are simply not worth recording, and you might find the process a bit tedious or even silly if you ever do manage to record all of your dreams.

So I would suggest that you be content with noting your dreams when you can, but that you try not to make recording all of them too important.

On the same note:



REM periods occur throughout the sleep cycle, with the first one usually beginning around 90 minutes after you fall asleep; there is not only one REM period.

That said, though, REM periods do occur more closely together as your night's sleep progresses, so you do indeed have a much better chance of catching REM after 5 or so hours' sleep... so you will tend to find REM quite easily after 7 hours' sleep.

Also:


It is true that we wake up several times during the night, often after a REM period finishes; it is also true that we usually fail to notice or remember those awakenings, due both to their brevity and that they are not normally stored in memory. Though I personally see no need to note when they happen, because they will happen at different times every night, it is a good idea, I think, to learn to recognize these micro-awakenings as they occur, because doing so heightens your ability to recall your dreams, helps increase your access to memory, and help you to be better able to do WBTB's or DEILD's at appropriate times.

I think the bottom line here is that things like knowing specifically when REM periods or micro-awakenings occur or recording every dream you have are not as important as they are made to be on these forums and in so many well-meaning books. I honestly believe that clouding your mind and cluttering your time, focus, and effort with all these details tends to slow your pace toward consistent lucidity rather than accelerate it. So try not to make a major project of things like this. What is important, instead, is that you properly prepare your mind for lucidity, and learn to naturally and calmly notice the correct times to enter it.

Sageous you got that right my friend.My recall has been terrible lately and i thought that if i put effort to remember more and more dreams will make it better.I will take your advice and start recording my last dreams that happen before my final awakening.

I will start writing the time of each awakening to see any common times after dreams.Is this right?

In my experience, the times I wake up aren't any use because they vary so much. But, I do try to look at my alarm clock whenever I wake up because I've found it's a great way to catch false awakenings due to how my clock always either looks different or isn't there when I'm dreaming.

To notice your awakenings, all you have to do is be aware of them.

REM periods occur throughout the sleep cycle, with the first one usually beginning around 90 minutes after you fall asleep; there is not only one REM period.

That said, though, REM periods do occur more closely together as your night's sleep progresses, so you do indeed have a much better chance of catching REM after 5 or so hours' sleep... so you will tend to find REM quite easily after 7 hours' sleep.

My bad for terrible wording. I mean I notice my dreams later on in the night, quite easy actually. I don't remember dreams from my first REM though, I think it's because dreams only last upto 10 minutes.

There's an App called "Sleep Cycle" that exploits the motion sensors in your smart phone to detect vibrations in your bed and it translates the data into a graph which shows you with great precision when you are awake, asleep, or in "deep sleep." I gotta say, it works GREAT. Obviously only accurate if you are alone in bed, though! I use it every night because although my wife sleeps next to me, our mattresses are isolated from one another because they are different firmness and the frames are physically separated by a cm or so.

Get it. Use it. You will almost immediately see your normal sleep/wake pattern. P.S. I have no connection with the App, which is FREE. Just a happy user.

DH

Originally Posted by DoubleHelix

There's an App called "Sleep Cycle" that exploits the motion sensors in your smart phone to detect vibrations in your bed and it translates the data into a graph which shows you with great precision when you are awake, asleep, or in "deep sleep." I gotta say, it works GREAT. Obviously only accurate if you are alone in bed, though! I use it every night because although my wife sleeps next to me, our mattresses are isolated from one another because they are different firmness and the frames are physically separated by a cm or so.

Get it. Use it. You will almost immediately see your normal sleep/wake pattern. P.S. I have no connection with the App, which is FREE. Just a happy user.

DH

About this app..do you leave your phone on your matress?

Originally Posted by tasinios

About this app..do you leave your phone on your matress?

You have to buy this app, I can give you it for free, over email or whatever way is best for you. It's a nice little app, you put it on your matrass and when you move of a night it creates a nice smoothing noise to wake you up.

Originally Posted by Habba

You have to buy this app, I can give you it for free, over email or whatever way is best for you. It's a nice little app, you put it on your matrass and when you move of a night it creates a nice smoothing noise to wake you up.

Nonsense. Sleep Cycle is free. I don't know what App you are referring to that costs $$$
D.H.

Originally Posted by tasinios

About this app..do you leave your phone on your matress?

Yes. It's best to leave it on charge at the same time. The instructions are in the App.

It's not free on the Google play store as I have puchased it.

Found out the actual price on the browser play store.

Google play store? What the heck is that? Just go to "App Store" on your IPhone. Search for "Sleep Cycle" - it'll probably be the first app you see. It's the one depicted above with the burnt-orange clock face logo. Hit "download" and you're done. Done this way it's free! I've NEVER seen any version in which Sleep Cycle costs even $0.99 - but even if it did cost a lousy buck, it is worth it. I just checked last night and done as I describe it is FREE.

Originally Posted by DoubleHelix

Google play store? What the heck is that? Just go to "App Store" on your IPhone. Search for "Sleep Cycle" - it'll probably be the first app you see. It's the one depicted above with the burnt-orange clock face logo. Hit "download" and you're done. Done this way it's free! I've NEVER seen any version in which Sleep Cycle costs even $0.99 - but even if it did cost a lousy buck, it is worth it. I just checked last night and done as I describe it is FREE.

That's because I'm on android.

Ahhhhh...mystery solved. It's free for the Iphone.