Thread: I need an army of lucid dreamers...

I am an artist, animator and video editor so I can give guidance as far as that stuff goes. Your art and video work looks pretty good so far.

Something I would like to see included in the book is the gravity reality check just like earlier books discussed why the nose plug rc works. I was talking in another thread about how the user Hukif uses it to great success. It works by feeling the subtle differences in how the body feels while dreaming. I would love to see research confirming his hypothesis that it is caused by interference from your sleep paralyzed body and confirming that it works consistently between dreamers. This would work well with your book because it would be included along side discussion on how gravity works in real physics.

@Dolphin - Thanks for the suggestion, I've done just as you've asked and added the "and". To be perfectly honest, putting the KS page together, and the endless revisions, became a little like when you repeat a word over-and-over, until it stops having any meaning. So little details like that were very easy to overlook. I appreciate your help, a fresh pair of eyes are hugely useful!

@Rothgar - Thank you so much! I'm not quite sure how to respond to such a lovely post, other than to tell you it means a lot and has helped make me feel considerably more positive. As you say, it can be disheartening trying to spread a passion and to have it fall on deaf ears. I think all lucid dreamers are used to this, but that doesn't stop it being frustrating. Thank you also for your pledge, we've made some great progress over the past few days - with help from people like yourself! Let's hope the momentum keeps going and grows! Also, I think you've picked a great place to call home, Dreamviews really is a very unique, important and special place!

@RickM - Yes you're right, it's certainly not an area one should enter to get wealthy. Luckily I'm a man of simple tastes and I've always found my personal idea of wealth isn't material, instead comes from working on something important, or the free things in life - such as lucid dreaming! You're not the first person to suggest I should write romance, or something with a bit more sauce - I'm not quite sure it's my style - but who knows what the future holds . Still, congratulations to your Niece for doing so very well for herself!

@MadMonkey - I'll make a note of your ideas, research them more when it comes to that point, and then do my best to include them in the relevant places. Perhaps we can do a little bit of casual Dreamviews based research into that area? When the campaign is over, remind me to get onto that! I'd also certainly appreciate your input or skills with art and animation. I'd like to develop additional material in the form of videos to supplement the books and your input would be appreciated.


@Everyone else - Good news: we're at 16% of funding after a very generous pledge today! It's good to have a boost so early in the campaign, but we really need to build the momentum. I've spoken with a few different organisations and media outlets that have agreed to help promote things, so that should help. If you can all keep spreading the word in any way you can, I'd really appreciate it. I think grass-roots is the best approach and can really help things go viral. Also, those of you who are thinking of making a pledge - there's still a few discounted "early bird" options, but they're limited, so I'd suggest snapping them up before they're gone - I'd prefer the discounts to go to members of the community. With that in mind, and to be true to my own ideals of spreading the word, here's the link to the page once again: http://kck.st/1NSjUJN

I've also updated my signature - so it should show where the campaign stands, and how much we need in pledges per day to reach the goal. Hopefully it'll give you a better idea of how things are progressing and the kinds of charts I'm seeing on the Kickstarter dashboard. Which will hopefully go some way towards explaining why I may be relaxed on some days and freaking out on others!

@Daniel - I have written an article on your behalf on the net.

That's really kind of you, thanks Highlander! Can you drop me a link to the article?

Yeey, Hukif!

I think Daniel you wanted us to nominate great lucid dreamers? I can start with Hukif, Sageous, Sivason, OpheliaBlue. No obligations to anybody ofc, just a name to consider.

Hey everyone,

Had a bit of a quiet day on the pledge front, so we're not quite on track to make this project happen unless we can spread the word and get some pledges happening!
With that in mind, I've created this teaser trailer which perhaps you guys can share. It may not be to everyone's tastes, but perhaps it will spark the interest of some...

https://youtu.be/54tstpTWq9Y

If you share, please remember to include the link to the campaign page: http://www.luciddreamersguide.com

Also, how on earth is everyone?

Originally Posted by DanielLove

https://youtu.be/54tstpTWq9Y?

Nice space visuals etc Daniel - and are those really aliens I hear in the background? You have some contacts out there

Don't worry it's still coming in isn't it

Originally Posted by Patience108

Nice space visuals etc Daniel - and are those really aliens I hear in the background? You have some contacts out there

Don't worry it's still coming in isn't it

Ha, thanks Patience!
A little intergalactic help would certainly be of value

Yeah, it's tricky with these things, as it's impossible to know what is around the corner. I've a few websites that have agreed to promote the idea in the near future (hopefully), so that should help.

The best way for people to know if we're on track is my signature. The colour of the number (the pledge amount) above the text saying "Today's Pledge Total" is the best indicator.

It can be understood this way:

Green = We're all good

Amber = Doing okay

Red = Panic, promote and make a pledge!

So today is a red day, so it would be really helpful if everyone can please spread the word so we can get some pledges rolling in

Daniel-san, campaign is like dream recall. It may fluctuate. But at the end, we all end up with some awesome dreams and the days of lull are all but forgotten.

Hope I'm not violating any protocol here, but what about our friends down under at "World of Lucid Dreaming"? Would they promote? Have they been contacted?

Originally Posted by Rothgar

Hope I'm not violating any protocol here, but what about our friends down under at "World of Lucid Dreaming"? Would they promote? Have they been contacted?

Hey Rothgar, Rebecca who runs World of Lucid Dreaming has been very supportive, I've submitted an article to her that is based around the campaign and she should be sharing that in the very near future. I'll drop a link to it here once it is live. She's also agreed to pledge and to also promote the campaign in any way she can. She's a lovely woman who is always very kind and helpful, with a nice down-to-earth approach and a love of science.

@Gab - thanks for the sage and calming advice , I get so immersed and passionate about projects that I need a calming influence occasionall!

@Everyone else... I'll be releasing an exciting update (free stuff for you guys), within the hour. I'll drop a post here with details ASAP.

IMPORTANT UPDATE: Back and share the campaign before June 19th and you'll receive a FREE e-book copy of 'Are You Dreaming?'

So, I thought I'd do something to say thanks to everyone who has already backed and shared the campaign, and to offer a little extra motivation to those who haven't taken the plunge yet.

Essentially, anyone who both backs and shares the campaign before June 19th will get a free ebook of my first book, "Are You Dreaming?".

It doesn't matter how much you back, as long as you've backed and shared the project on social media, you're eligible.
So as it doesn't bankrupt me, the offer requires the campaign to successfully reach its goal (kind of obvious that one) - but that's extra motivation to do your bit to help make this a reality!

All the details are listed in the latest campaign update:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects.../posts/1591175

Are You Dreaming? is kind of a prequel to the series, so it makes sense that those of you who haven't read it yet can have a copy for your help!

Sooooo, how long agonwere these posts? Not that I want to be a part of any dream army lol, I'm happy remaining reclusive and unknown. I just signed up for the firat time today out of curiosity as I've been a natural lucid dreamer since my childhood. Shape shift, fly, become apart of the elements. I don't know how aignificant or real any of it is but I do it all by will and rather enjoy the experience. I've recently been using the experience like a sort of hypnotheripy session. Hypnotherpy can supposedly alter our subconcouse thoughts and therefore alter our behaviour and beliefs so I thought, what the hell? What's more subliminal than this? Not that I know anything or even if it works, I'm just messing around and experimenting now because I can. Anyway, if this aite has any actual activity maybe I can learn something. Forgive all spelling errors
Have fun.

I believe. So I tweeted. Also posted your project in a closed lucid dreaming/OBE Facebook group with over 2600 members.

Originally Posted by Dreamwalkwr

...Not that I want to be a part of any dream army lol

Too late, I'm affraid ONE OF US

Originally Posted by gab

Too late, I'm affraid ONE OF US

Nice one gab✨ And to all!

I like the idea for the free ayd ebook, and the new book sounds awesome if it has relevant info. I like the hitchhiker's guide them. That being said, I do have some questions.
What was your old account?
Where is my money going?

I like to know a little background before putting my money somewhere, as well as some more info as to what my money will accomplish.

@Dreamwalkwr - Not old at all, these have all been made in the last few days. If you look at the blue bar above each post, it tells you when it was made.

@Sensei - Thanks for the questions and thoughts. The first one I'll not answer (sorry!), the reason being that when one writes under a pseudonym it not only give you a level of anonymity, but also everyone else in your personal life that you may mention; friends, family, etc. As I have no access that old account, and even if I somehow could, I wouldn't have the time to trail through it deleting any private or personal information regarding people I know. This is the same for more personal or private details of your own life, it's much easier to discuss these behind a username, with the freedom that provides. If you or I write "My sister is being a complete idiot today" under a pseudonym, that tells us everything we need to know for a conversation, but no-one, including your sister, would ever know who "my sister" is referring to. Written under our given name changes all of that. On-line privacy extends beyond oneself. So, I'm sure you can understand that DreamViews acted somewhat like a diary, and I'd rather protect the privacy of friends and family.

However, there's plenty of background information about me on-line. I can drop you some links later if that's any use to you?

To answer your second question, if you take a look near the bottom of the Kickstarter page, I've given a detailed breakdown of how funds will be used, including a graphic representation. If you have any specific details you'd like to know, I'd be more than happy to answer. The simple answer is that your money will be going towards all the costs involved in producing a book (printing, proof reader fees etc.) and running a website (hosting, artwork etc.).

In short, the initial aim of this campaign is to get the first book produced, which should then start the ball rolling towards generating the funds for research, events and anything else we collectively agree are needed in the field.

I'd certainly appreciate your help!

Originally Posted by DanielLove

@Sensei - Thanks for the questions and thoughts. The first one I'll not answer (sorry!), the reason being that when one writes under a pseudonym it not only give you a level of anonymity, but also everyone else in your personal life that you may mention; friends, family, etc. As I have no access that old account, and even if I somehow could, I wouldn't have the time to trail through it deleting any private or personal information regarding people I know. This is the same for more personal or private details of your own life, it's much easier to discuss these behind a username, with the freedom that provides. If you or I write "My sister is being a complete idiot today" under a pseudonym, that tells us everything we need to know for a conversation, but no-one, including your sister, would ever know who "my sister" is referring to. Written under our given name changes all of that. On-line privacy extends beyond oneself. So, I'm sure you can understand that DreamViews acted somewhat like a diary, and I'd rather protect the privacy of friends and family.

However, there's plenty of background information about me on-line. I can drop you some links later if that's any use to you?

To answer your second question, if you take a look near the bottom of the Kickstarter page, I've given a detailed breakdown of how funds will be used, including a graphic representation. If you have any specific details you'd like to know, I'd be more than happy to answer. The simple answer is that your money will be going towards all the costs involved in producing a book (printing, proof reader fees etc.) and running a website (hosting, artwork etc.).

In short, the initial aim of this campaign is to get the first book produced, which should then start the ball rolling towards generating the funds for research, events and anything else we collectively agree are needed in the field.

I'd certainly appreciate your help!

1) I see, this is interesting, since Sensei is a pseudonym for me, and I do not like my "family or friends" knowing about my LDing things. Most people I know are actually quite against the concept, so I am not able to share it. I will see if I can get into my old twitter account, since it is not connected to my actual name, friends, or family.

2) ah, I see the breakdown at the bottom. I guess I am a little confused as to why you aren't talking to publishers instead of communities?

I am not trying to be mr. negative over here, I am just more interested. I am also interested in you as a lucid dreamer, things like "how long have you been LDing" "How often do you LD" "what does an average night of LDing work, and day of LDing work look like to you", but this isn't the time and place to discuss this.

@Sensei - Don't worry, you can ask absolutely anything you like!
To answer your first question "Why communities rather than publishers?" - Well, I want genuine freedom. Publishers have a very set criteria for projects they'll accept and they maintain a high level of editorial control. There's a good reason why the overwhelming majority of books on the subject are the same old boring "how to" books - because those are a safe bet for publishers. I genuinely want to discuss difficult or "dangerous" (in the eyes of publishers) topics in these books. I am also open to the option of working with a publisher for this project in the future, but only if I maintain complete artistic freedom. This will be a far easier deal to establish if they see that the project is popular and can exist without their input. So, in a nut shell, I want the freedom to express and explore without limits.

I'd be happy to discuss your other questions, I'm looking towards doing some kind of Q&A thread in the near future so that may be a better environment to answer those in depth. I tend to ramble and I'll fill half this thread with answers to your questions if I'm not careful! The first one is easy though, I've been lucid dreaming my entire life. It developed because I suffered from parasomnias, mostly nightmares and sleep walking as a young child. I developed lucid dreaming as a defence mechanism, which cured these issues. From there on a long and deep relationship has been a continuous thread running through my life.

I have been able to lucid dream at will for a very long time, but it still requires me to choose to put in the effort initiate one (although there are, of course, regular unplanned DILDs thrown into the mix). So technically I could lucid dream several times each night. In reality I tend to put this into practice two to three times a week, sometimes more or sometimes less; it depends on what is happening in my life and how much I require nights to completely "shut down". I see lucid dreaming as a little like opening a heavy stone door: you develop the skills required to unlock the door (the key), and then you acquaint yourself with what is behind that door (the dream world) - both of these are skills and knowledge which once mastered stay with you for life. However, each time you want to open the door, you'll still need to exert the strength to push that door open. Not a perfect metaphor, but hopefully you get the idea.

I'll try and answer your other questions when the Q&A thread comes into existence

Free digital copy of "Are You Dreaming?" you say? That's quite awesome! Don't see how one could pass that up

I posted about it on some Google+ communities and contacted some people in the LD community that have a pretty decent following on Twitter/Youtube to see if they could help spread the word. Hopefully they do and it creates a ripple effect, and gets some more backers for it

Also, have you tried posting about it on some kickstarter/crowdfunding communities? Such as r/kickstarter on reddit? r/kickstarter looks like they don't allow asking for backers, but sharing the campaign on there and similar communities could help get the word out more.

Originally Posted by Mismagius

Free digital copy of "Are You Dreaming?" you say? That's quite awesome! Don't see how one could pass that up

I posted about it on some Google+ communities and contacted some people in the LD community that have a pretty decent following on Twitter/Youtube to see if they could help spread the word. Hopefully they do and it creates a ripple effect, and gets some more backers for it

Also, have you tried posting about it on some kickstarter/crowdfunding communities? Such as r/kickstarter on reddit? r/kickstarter looks like they don't allow asking for backers, but sharing the campaign on there and similar communities could help get the word out more.

@Mismagius - Brilliant, thanks ever so much! I think the word being spread by others is even more important than it coming from the creator of a campaign, after all people expect me to be positive, so when it comes from you guys it is all the more valuable. I really appreciate your help! Let's hope it gains traction and starts to spread of its own accord - as it's quite the relentless task having to constantly spread the word (and the line between enthusiasm and spammy starts to blur after a while - and I really don't want to be spammy!)

The crowdfunding communities idea is great, I've not tried that yet, I'll put it next on my to-do list. Thanks for the suggestion, It's something I'd considered before launching, but with so much to do, it's easy to forget a few things. I'll get onto it!!

I like that you include a trance MP3 in your reward options. That's a bit different and creative.

Also, to be completely honest, I wasn't going to back the project. Not your fault, I just have so many lucid dreaming books, they are becoming dull compared to the waking dream (heresy, right?). But... that's just it.

You have a real dream here, and you seem very passionate about it. So I'll back for that reason alone. Good luck.

@ThreeRainbows You're amazing, thank you! I also completely understand where you're coming from, I believe I have almost every book published on the topic (if not all!). That's one of the reasons I wanted to write something completely new - as these aren't books just about dreaming at all, they should (I hope) have a much wider scope and appeal

I really appreciate you backing based on my passion for this project, it has been a long day and you've put a smile on my face. Thank you!

@Gab "oooonee ooof usss, ooooneeee oooof uuuuus", haha I like it!

Thanks so much for helping with spreading the word! Yours and everyone's involvement is certainly helping to get eyeballs on the page, which is so important! Using Google Analytics I'm definitely noticing the page views going up Please keep up the good work everyone, it's starting to have an effect!

People Power


You guys have all been absolutely awesome so far, and whatever the future holds, I certainly consider you all wonderful friends and allies in our goal to make the world more lucid!

I've been busy sharing press releases far and wide. It's the kind of process where you need to send out thousands just to get noticed once - it's like a really rubbish fishing trip, only for journalists not fish - and you're not even allowed to eat journalists!

So here's an idea I hope some of you will get behind: let's throw away the fishing rods and go dynamite fishing!

The way I see it, the collective power of us all targeting the media, journalists, YouTube celebrities etc. should have far more sway than me going alone. Also they tend to respond differently when an idea is coming from someone other than its source.

Also, being an ancient fossil compared to many of you wrinkle free, fashionable and disturbingly energetic lot, I'm far more out-of-touch with some of the more popular media figures and outlets. You'll probably think of people and places I don't even know exist!

So here's the idea:

Do whatever you can to share the project with big media types. Even, if we can get only one of them to give us a tweet, we'll reach a BIG audience.

Perhaps, if any of you think it's a good idea, we could also compile a list of certain, relevant figures or websites that we can all contact on mass?

Here are the links to share again:

Short link:http://kck.st/1NSjUJN
Long link: www.luciddreamersguide.com

Let me know what you think, and if you do think it's a good idea - go be awesome and get started