A lucid dream is a dream during which the dreamer is consciously aware they are dreaming. The dreamer is aware that they know they are dreaming during the dream. |
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A couple of weeks ago I dreamed I was a member of an LDing cult. I drank some tea made with an LD-induction herb used by the cult, then went to bed. After falling asleep, I had an "LD." But in this "LD," I believed my waking "reality" consisted of living in the desert compound of the LDing cult, which is not at all similar--except possibly metaphorically--to my actual waking reality. So was this LD I dreamed I had actually an LD, or not? It felt like an actual LD, but that doesn't mean it was one. Because when I dream I'm driving it also feels like I'm actually driving, even though I'm not. |
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A lucid dream is a dream during which the dreamer is consciously aware they are dreaming. The dreamer is aware that they know they are dreaming during the dream. |
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Then what about this one: |
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In the end, the only person who would know the answer to that question is the dreamer. I know that there are some dreamers out there, including myself who have dreams where you are thinking or even teaching someone about Lucid dreaming but, that doesn't mean that you are aware. |
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One of each or both of the dreams could be real or false lucid dreams. As Lang says, only the dreamer themselves can know for sure whether or not they were conscious of the fact they knew they were are dreaming. |
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Then it's a real lucid dream in which the dreamer was aware there were in a dream before they dreamed of waking up and lost lucidity. |
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Let me take a shot at this: |
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Sounds like that one probably was an LD, but it might not have been. |
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True. But is it possible that sometimes even the dreamer might not have the correct answer? |
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I think you may have hit on the answer, dolphin! Or at least a good answer. If you have full awareness during a dream you definitely are fully lucid. But what is full awareness? Knowing you're dreaming certainly has to be part of it. And maybe any dream where you know you're dreaming should be considered to be a type of LD, though it might only be a fairly "low-level" LD. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-26-2019 at 11:51 PM.
OK, I think you can make a case for that. But I'd have to classify such dreams as a fairly low-level lucids. You're really not all that lucid if you don't know much of anything about your actual waking reality. But I do think of lucidity as being a continuum, so I don't think it's unreasonable to claim you're at least a little bit lucid in such cases. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-27-2019 at 12:16 AM.
I think it's quite reasonable to look at it that way. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-27-2019 at 12:12 AM.
Full awareness of being in a dream is knowing everything associated with the fact of being in a dream. I think Paul Tholey describes well what full lucidity is. He says a lucid dream includes: |
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That's a great idea to categorize all the aspects of awareness in an LD! |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-27-2019 at 01:41 AM.
you can be lucid to various degrees. It may be a small observation like a thought while simply watching weird stuff and going, "this weird crap is just in my head, it is just dream stuff." It can be on the other end just like an advanced VR game with a completely realistic body you control while examining the elements of the setting and thinking,"ok, I am dreaming again, what were the goals of this months competition" and then being able to change any aspect of the dream or use super powers. Both are lucid dreams. What is probably not a lucid dream is when you experience scenes where you say you are dreaming but it is just more plot to the dream and not an actual realization that it actually a dream. You can be confused as to the actual reality your body is in. Say in the dream you are an alien and now you can tell it is a dream. You fail to remember you are a human on modern Earth, but you actually do realize that what is going on is a figment of your dreaming mind. That is still being lucid. sageous used the term "awareness" and that is the long and short of it. Aware it is a dream = lucid. A scene about dreaming with no real awareness is a good sign but not the actual goal. |
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Yes. |
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I agree with that. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-28-2019 at 08:20 PM.
OK. |
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Last edited by Zthread; 07-28-2019 at 10:17 PM.
This is an exercise Sageous included in his WILD class. https://www.dreamviews.com/wild/1318...prep-part.html |
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How’s about we go deeper.. |
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Well, if waking-life is a dream, it's a pretty damn impressive one! |
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