Thread: My family thinks that I'm crazy

Just show them some information about Hypnagogic hallucinations and explain that's what you're experiencing. It's quite natural really. And while you're at it you could tell them about Dr. LaBerge who's scientifically proven Lucid Dreaming is real and not some new age mumbo jumbo

Edit: http://neurology.health-cares.net/hy...lucination.php

If they make you see a doctor he will understand and tell your parents.

Like Mancon said, go ahead and see a doctor. Make sure your parents are there with you so they can hear the doctor tell you it is perfectly safe and normal.

I doubt most doctors would know about it though. Sit down with them and tell them what it is. Show them this site (but not senseless banter) and tell them that LDs having nothing to do with magic, and are scientifically proven.
But anyways, why do you really care what they think about it?

I had a psychologist who knew what lucid dreaming was, and had a positive opinion of it. Any doctor is likely to share the same view.

One question: are your parents like super-religious? Some religious types like to think lucid dreaming is "new age" stuff and "new age" stuff is supposed to be a "sin" for some reason.

For people who haven't experienced a LD, it can seem crazy.

There are problably still dream/sleep researchers who deny LD is even possible.

Keep it to yourself. Share it with people who express an interest, not with people who think it is crazy.

Originally Posted by Flashdance

For people who haven't experienced a LD, it can seem crazy.

There are problably still dream/sleep researchers who deny LD is even possible.

Keep it to yourself. Share it with people who express an interest, not with people who think it is crazy.

No I don't think researchers don't think it is possible. There is to much evidence. Look at how many people on Dream Views have done it.

Very true, but there are always those willing to practice "dirty science" if the price is right, and nowadays, there's a special interest group for everything...

At any rate, yeah, just come up with a big chunk of science, data, research, findings, etc. and drown them in facts. If still they insist on you stopping, say you will, then continue on as planned. Nothing quite like a well-placed lie. I can tell you from experience, though, that I HAVE become lucid, using only practice and willpower. Also, it will not make you crazy (it's just a dream).

Originally Posted by Mancon123

There is to much evidence. Look at how many people on Dream Views have done it.

Careful... The number of people who have claimed to have done something is not evidence.

But you're right, there is actual scientific evidence. That and a carefully worded explanation should put anyone at rest.

I'm doing an experiment to prove lucid dreaming as a project in science class

lol, same thing with my dad. He says I shouldnt do it. Recently i asked him why, amd these were basically his reasons.

-He thinks i wont sleep as good.
-He thinks that dreams can be a message from god, and i am screwing with God (lol, i dont know he can be a bit over religious)
-He says that I will drive myself crazy
- he says that i should not tamper with my subconscious because it is like it is for a reason (seriously? i cant even mess with my own mind?)

I even to read parts of LaBerge's book to him, but he was like "Just because they back it with science doesn't mean it is true."

i know, WTF??? but like i said, my dad is VERY religious. I mean, he wont even LISTEN to anything about evolution or even dinosaurs. I was like dad, they found the animals' friggin BONES! What else do you need??? and he goes on about it being a test from God. Seriously? I don't see how he can be so closed minded and i so open minded.

If your dad is like mine, you may just have to live with it. But definitely let him take you to the doctor. There is nothing wrong with you, and the doctors will find that out. If you are talking about psychiatrist, they may even know a lot about LDing.

Originally Posted by sheogorath

lol, same thing with my dad. He says I shouldnt do it. Recently i asked him why, amd these were basically his reasons.

-He thinks i wont sleep as good.
-He thinks that dreams can be a message from god, and i am screwing with God (lol, i dont know he can be a bit over religious)
-He says that I will drive myself crazy
- he says that i should not tamper with my subconscious because it is like it is for a reason (seriously? i cant even mess with my own mind?)

I even to read parts of LaBerge's book to him, but he was like "Just because they back it with science doesn't mean it is true."

i know, WTF??? but like i said, my dad is VERY religious. I mean, he wont even LISTEN to anything about evolution or even dinosaurs. I was like dad, they found the animals' friggin BONES! What else do you need??? and he goes on about it being a test from God. Seriously? I don't see how he can be so closed minded and i so open minded.

If your dad is like mine, you may just have to live with it. But definitely let him take you to the doctor. There is nothing wrong with you, and the doctors will find that out. If you are talking about psychiatrist, they may even know a lot about LDing.

Oh, you poor, poor child. Yeah, all of the above are bunk. No offense, or nothing. What is it with people today treating science like it's fucking voodoo? Seriously? Faith is one thing; blind stupidity and ignorance is another. End rant.

reading this thread makes me really glad that my parents actually think its cool that im able to lucid dream.
My little bro has even had a couple lucid dreams just cause of the stuff ive told him about it, and he doesnt even practice it, i bet if he started practicing it while hes young he could easily master it. i wish i knew about it when i was a wee lad.

I visited the doctors about sleep paralysis (before I knew about Lucid Dreaming), she didn't really have a clue what I was talking about and thought I was just having really bad nightmares.
Ever since my dad thinks that sleep paralysis is just a nightmare and not a actual physical phenomena. It's hard to prove otherwise too I just wish he had a nasty attack of SP so he can see for himself.

show your parents this thread

Being a doctor doesn't necessarily mean knowing anything about lucid dreaming.

Unless dreaming, particularly lucid, is a topic of study, doctors are as ignorant as the general population.

If they think so... why tell them at all, or why not ask the famous "Has you ever had a dream in which you knew you were dreaming?" Or the other one "Has you ever controled one of your dreams?"... I wonder how it is that religious parents don't accept it... my mom is pretty religious and still believes in LD and practices it on vacations <.<

lol, Walms, i guess it is just my dad then. i don't know, he is strange. He tends to stick to more traditional and solid ideas than stuff like physiology. He is very content with what he has, and thinks everyone else should be too. Not one for new stuff. I don't know, I guess that5 is good in some ways, but to me there is just so much more to life than being alive. I mean, if you donut learn new stuff, and do new things then you will have a very boring life indeed, right? I don't know, maybe he finds comfort in repetition.

and i did ask him if had controlled his dreams before and he said that he hadn't and he didn't want too. that sleeping was for rest, not controlling your dreams. Sigh

I'm not trying to bash my dad, or anything, i just get frustrated with him some times, and my mom is VERY open minded, almost to the point of being naive.

but yeah, Flashdance, i don't think they would diagnose him with anything. I would say that they wouldn't just make up an illness, but..... He could always tell the doctor about the lucid dreaming, and if the doctor is good, he would do some kind of research i would imagine.

Well, I know some people are against lucid dreaming because it takes away the part of dreaming which sort of tells you what is on your mind. And that some people like having dreams that you don't know what to expect.

But, there is no reason for anyone to think that you are crazy for doing it or believing in it. There is no way for you to not believe in it, because it is just fact, no argument there.

But if they say you are crazy for doing it cause it's a weird thing to do, then I'm afraid they are very immature and naive.

Quote this god dam post to them, quote all these posts, it's all good.

I was going to say what yuriythebest said.

Unfortunately I work in an operating room and some ANAESTHETISTS don't even know about lucid dreaming so you may get a doctor who doesn't know about it. Still, they're hardly going to tell you it's dangerous if they don't know about it so you win either way.

To Tristan's parents,

I'm picking Tristan is a teenager and that's why you don't take him seriously? Let me tell you, I'm 38 years old with a professional career and a very high IQ. I don't believe in anything supernatural - ghosts, gods, tarot cards, astrology, mediums, psychics, premonitions, souls, palm reading, you name it. But lucid dreaming is real. I've experienced it. It is the most exhilarating feeling in the world to suddenly become fully aware that what is happening around you is only a dream. You immediately have full control over your actions (usually) as well as control over your environment hence you no longer have any need to respond to or worry about anything unpleasant that is happening in your dream. It is impossible to explain to anyone who hasn't experienced it, as you obviously haven't.

It has been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN. The subjects in the experiment couldn't fake that they were asleep as they had electrodes attached to them recording their brain waves.

We can't prove to you what occurs in our private consciousness but if you bother to spend some time browsing this forum you'll see that thousands of people all report extremely similar and often identical experiences eg false awakenings, hypnagogia, hypnapompia, vibrations, reality tests, old hag syndrome, sleep paralysis, and similar experiences with the laws of physics during a dream eg the fact that dream control is greatly influenced by intention, the fact that flying always feels exhilarating, the fact that digital numbers always roll.

It's not a big conspiracy. It's real. Believe it. Why else would I spend $250 on this ridiculous looking watch but for the fact that it was the only programmable message watch available in the world at the time making it brilliant for reality testing thus enabling me to increase my number of lucid dreams?

Have you actually stopped and thought about what Tristan is saying? Can you not imagine how brilliant it is to realize when you're dreaming? I guess not Oh well, you might be missing out, but for the love of Pete don't try and stop a lucid dreamer. You'll never succeed. It's just too awesome. Sorry, but that's just the way it is, whether you like it or not, and whether you believe it or not.

Consider yourself lucky. My parents KNOW,for a fact,that I'm crazy.


BTW,I'm not kidding.

It's true that your doctor might not know about it. If s/he doesn't, you can just say that it can't be anything bad or they would know about it. And if your parents insist on taking you to someone who does know, then in the end you should find a professional who can confirm that it's harmless.

Then again, you could do what a bunch of people in this thread are saying and throw science at them. Unless they're the type who doesn't listen to scientific evidence, in which case... well, they really have no way of stopping you, do they?

Originally Posted by kunfu11

My parents KNOW,for a fact,that I'm crazy.

So do we.

Originally Posted by Flashdance

So do we.

lol . Kunfu is an AWESOME crazy though.