Thread: Parents think LDing is an occult...

Originally Posted by Sesquipedalian

Alright, I'll digress for a moment.


Can you imagine what South Park could do to us? Look what they did with World of Warcraft, Ocean's [insert number here], and Brittany Spears alone? With something that is already considered a cult by some, South Park could rip on LDing as hard as they want. Who's going to stop them if they do an episode on it?

Digression over, nothing to see here. Disperse!

Or they could make LDing an awesome thing to do, with some idiot thinking it's bad. that would be good for us.
If I ever aek a movie on LDing, I'll put something in at the beginig on how it's actually possible.

My mom knows of my interests in lucid dreaming, and doesn't think I should do it, but she doesn't go crazy with saying bad stuff will happen.
If you are having a hard time convincing your parents about lucid dreaming, then why bother? This doesn't have to be any of their buisness.

Originally Posted by Bizarre Jester

My mom knows of my interests in lucid dreaming, and doesn't think I should do it, but she doesn't go crazy with saying bad stuff will happen.
If you are having a hard time convincing your parents about lucid dreaming, then why bother? This doesn't have to be any of their buisness.

exactly! im not gonna bother telling my parents untill either they discover it, or until i have like 50 lucid dreams and can personally say its not dangerous or anything.

Hello, my name is Hidden, and I'm a lucid dreamer.

*Hi, Hidden.*

My name is Mario, and I'm a lucid dreamer, too.

*Hi, Mario*

"Welcome everyone to lucid dreaming rehab. In this course, we're going to show you why your parents need to stick their noses in your business and tell you what to do with the most private parts of your life. Surrender to the parental units; resistance is futile."

Parents can be a bugger. When I started lucid dreaming my parents thought it was occultist. Have them read Stephen LaBerge's "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" book. Maybe that can help them understand.

And lucid dreaming occurs naturally for some people, how could you stop it? It is pure ignorance to tell someone not to do it as if they can help themselves, lol.

My parents think lucid dreaming is cool. My mom even tried to get a lucid dream for a bit, but she gave up.

Originally Posted by James2302

exactly! im not gonna bother telling my parents untill either they discover it, or until i have like 50 lucid dreams and can personally say its not dangerous or anything.

I know what that kind of feeling is like, not being able to have a stable argument until you've received enough experience on the topic.... But, that's what the community here is for: so you can use all of the other experienced lucid dreamers here as examples in your stead, until you have at least 40 or 50 LDs.

Originally Posted by Mario92

*Hi, Hidden.*

My name is Mario, and I'm a lucid dreamer, too.

*Hi, Mario*

"Welcome everyone to lucid dreaming rehab. In this course, we're going to show you why your parents need to stick their noses in your business and tell you what to do with the most private parts of your life. Surrender to the parental units; resistance is futile."

Lol.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

I know what that kind of feeling is like, not being able to have a stable argument until you've received enough experience on the topic.... But, that's what the community here is for: so you can use all of the other experienced lucid dreamers here as examples in your stead, until you have at least 40 or 50 LDs.

You really think parents trust random people on the internet? This is about their child's safety, after all. If you all told me to try skydiving, my mom would be nowhere closer to being convinced it's safe.

Originally Posted by Hidden

You really think parents trust random people on the internet? This is about their child's safety, after all. If you all told me to try skydiving, my mom would be nowhere closer to being convinced it's safe.

Of course I wouldn't be asking a person to expect their parents to trust everything they see on the internet, let alone evidence-absent LD counts to prove it, but that would be one thing to factor into an argument they could make to convince them that it isn't a dangerous activity. For the main convincing points they'd have to bring up Dr. LaBerge and repositories of information like information on SP, induction techniques, etc. - which is something they could find here in the community.

Though it hardly warrants mentioning at this point, LDing is something this community is centered around and shares information about, which would set it apart from skydriving, because not many of us know much of anything about it and don't compile informative threads about it.

Yeah, seriously. Go buy ETWOLD, problem solved.

If it still isn't, just shutup about it. Don't reply when they say something about it.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

Of course I wouldn't be asking a person to expect their parents to trust everything they see on the internet, let alone evidence-absent LD counts to prove it, but that would be one thing to factor into an argument they could make to convince them that it isn't a dangerous activity. For the main convincing points they'd have to bring up Dr. LaBerge and repositories of information like information on SP, induction techniques, etc. - which is something they could find here in the community.

Though it hardly warrants mentioning at this point, LDing is something this community is centered around and shares information about, which would set it apart from skydriving, because not many of us know much of anything about it and don't compile informative threads about it.

Lol, my original post was intended to have a touch of sarcasm to it, but reading over it, you can't really tell... Anyway, I agree with everything you just said, except with the skydiving analogy I was thinking of a site that would be DV's equivalent but for skydiving. Does that make sense? It sounded awkward as I typed it up.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

Yeah, seriously. Go buy ETWOLD, problem solved.

If it still isn't, just shutup about it. Don't reply when they say something about it.

You can't just not respond when your parents talk to you.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

Yeah, seriously. Go buy ETWOLD, problem solved.

If it still isn't, just shutup about it. Don't reply when they say something about it.

Seems to me that that right there is the only real way of convincing any skeptic that LDing is legitimate and safe to practice. XD

@Hidden: Oh!! I missed that, sorry! In that case, you're right on all counts. *thumbs up* I'm glad no one has given me trouble over LDing being safe or not, though.

No worries. Yeah, I'm also glad my parents aren't paranoid. Actually, now that I think about it, no one I've talked to has been concerned with the safety of LDing. They just think it's weird.

Originally Posted by Hidden

You can't just not respond when your parents talk to you.

This is true, but if you know your parents well, it is possible.

Yeah, I guess it depends on your parents... Mine would get pissed off, but maybe other people's wouldn't.

oh man my mom would get so mad. She has severe anger issues that cannot be explained unless you experience it.

But, she has no interest in it so she doesn't matter. I dont think my dad knows.

How do all of you generally present the idea of lucid dreaming to someone? I explained it to my little sister the other night over the phone when she asked why I kept a dream journal.

I explained it first by telling her to think of the things she reads about in books and does while playing games and watching movies, and to think of the things she wants to do that are currently impossible for her to do. (Flying, visiting fantasy worlds, such things.) After getting her to think about some recreational applications of lucid dreaming like those, I told her it was possible to induce her own controllable dreams, to be able to do all of that stuff without limits. After that, she was totally on-board with it. That's just one example of a way to present it.

When I first read about lucid dreaming, it was presented to me in much a similar way, where I thought first of what I could do with lucid dreams, before even knowing they could be induced or even that you could really control dreams.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

How do all of you generally present the idea of lucid dreaming to someone? I explained it to my little sister the other night over the phone when she asked why I kept a dream journal.

I explained it first by telling her to think of the things she reads about in books and does while playing games and watching movies, and to think of the things she wants to do that are currently impossible for her to do. (Flying, visiting fantasy worlds, such things.) After getting her to think about some recreational applications of lucid dreaming like those, I told her it was possible to induce her own controllable dreams, to be able to do all of that stuff without limits. After that, she was totally on-board with it. That's just one example of a way to present it.

When I first read about lucid dreaming, it was presented to me in much a similar way, where I thought first of what I could do with lucid dreams, before even knowing they could be induced or even that you could really control dreams.

That's exactly how I present it to everyone.

Originally Posted by Clyde Machine

How do all of you generally present the idea of lucid dreaming to someone? I explained it to my little sister the other night over the phone when she asked why I kept a dream journal.

I explained it first by telling her to think of the things she reads about in books and does while playing games and watching movies, and to think of the things she wants to do that are currently impossible for her to do. (Flying, visiting fantasy worlds, such things.) After getting her to think about some recreational applications of lucid dreaming like those, I told her it was possible to induce her own controllable dreams, to be able to do all of that stuff without limits. After that, she was totally on-board with it. That's just one example of a way to present it.

When I first read about lucid dreaming, it was presented to me in much a similar way, where I thought first of what I could do with lucid dreams, before even knowing they could be induced or even that you could really control dreams.

That's a really smart way of presenting it. I should do that.

Here's the blog post that threw me headlong into LDing, which is consequently how I learned how to approach the lucid dreaming explanation situation:

http://vladdolezal.com/blog/2008/luc...an-experience/

When I get a couple WILDs under my belt and start getting the hang of it, I'm shooting that guy an email with a personal thanks for changing my life. XD I swear it.

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

Thats handy. I'm really lucky because my 2nd cousin is basically a pyschologist, and when I told him I was lucid dreaming he went on about how great it was in front of my dad. Problem solved.

Wish everyone can see it that way

"Lucid Dreaming – (Six Incredibly Awesome Mind States You Can Experience)"

Where does the six mind states come in?

This is where i discovered lucid dreaming about a year ago (as you can see i was already intrested in dreams always have been obsessed with them ever since i was little). Imagine my excitement when i discovered this. Little did i know this website would change my life.
http://www.dreammoods.com/dreaminfor...uciddreams.htm