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      I was reading something online that said it was possible to slow down or stop reap time during a dream. It said that there was a guy who had a lucid dream that lasted 105 years but in waking life it was only one night. Have any of you ever heard of this or done it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Andy2014 View Post
      I was reading something online that said it was possible to slow down or stop reap time during a dream. It said that there was a guy who had a lucid dream that lasted 105 years but in waking life it was only one night. Have any of you ever heard of this or done it.
      The brain can only operate at certain frequencies, at some point, it just can't speed up anymore. Lasting 105 years dream time is absurd in my expreinces, but a week in one night MIGHT be possible of your really really really good at it.
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      I have heard of this a few times. Some people do have really long dreams and stuff. For days or weeks and stuff. I don't really believe you can slow time in a dream, however you can absolutely make dreams seem longer.

      The most common thing that makes dreams seem shorter, is that they naturally skip from location to location, and event to event. You can literally wake up and walk out of your bedroom, and arrive at work fully dressed. Saving hours of time. So you might do an entire days worth of activities in five minutes.

      You might think that is silly, but it happens in real life too. Some movies and tv shows and even books are able to pack information, and make time seem to last a lot longer. Especially a good book that absorbs you into it.

      There is also another trick dreams use, which is false memories. Often times people are made up characters in their dreams, yet some how you see another dream character and you know they are their best friend. And even weirder you remeber you used to hang out at the bar together.

      Related to that, its also to have a dream, in which you remeber a dream you had before, yet you had totally forgot that dream. Dreams are easily forgotten, but some times you wake up and realize, "Hey I remeber dreaming that before." So one dream might be connected to an old dream, and you find yourself remebering it.

      Lastly, the mind just fills things in from dreams. Some times you don't dream something and all and your mind just fills in the blanks. All the filling in can add a lot more information than was really there, which also can stretch out the dream, making it feel like you did a lot more than you really did.

      So all of them can be added and mixed, to make dreams seem like a long time.

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      Yeah, your brain can't process information that fast so its impossible to cram years worth of time into a single night. However as states, the brain can sometimes make up false memories giving the impression you were there a long time.

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      The longest dream I've ever had wasn't even a lucid one. It happened after I had finished a good book and that night I dreamed I was living in the world of the book. Although I didn't remember every detail when I woke up I did remember enough to know that it lasted at least a day. I remember I ate when I was hungry and walked everywhere I had to go. The dream ended because I was really sleepy and asked the guy I was with if he had somewhere I could sleep and fell asleep on a floating blanket.

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      I had a lucid dream that lasted for three months. It was the worst lucid experience ever, too. Somehow I lost all control in that time and so it wasn't like I tried to make that particular dream last a long time...I was just trapped! I had to do everything in there like I normally would...even sleep every night! Yes, I got tired in a lucid dream and slept, and then woke up still lucid, still in the dream, for three month's worth of days. That's how long it took for the dream to run its course and finally reach the end of the 'story', from which I woke up.
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      three months sounds like a really long time...I wish that could happen to me I've always wanted to live life like my story,lol.
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      Quote Originally Posted by LiveInTheDream View Post
      I had a lucid dream that lasted for three months. It was the worst lucid experience ever, too. Somehow I lost all control in that time and so it wasn't like I tried to make that particular dream last a long time...I was just trapped! I had to do everything in there like I normally would...even sleep every night! Yes, I got tired in a lucid dream and slept, and then woke up still lucid, still in the dream, for three month's worth of days. That's how long it took for the dream to run its course and finally reach the end of the 'story', from which I woke up.
      If I heard this anywhere else, I'm not so sure I'd believe it. But, whether I'd heard it here or not, I would do what I love to do: ask about what exactly it feels like to live three whole months in one lucid dream!! I don't quite understand it, or should I say, I can't comprehend it. I've had a dream feel like it was an hour long when I'd only been asleep for twenty minutes, but that's the extent of my dreamtime/realtime perception distortion. Three months of lucidity? I can barely believe that, but all I can do is ask for you to talk more about it or direct me to an entry in your dream journal if there is one that can tell me about it.
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      I too would like to hear about this three month long lucid. I would love to have an experience like that. I just find it really hard to believe. But my optimistic side likes to hope that such things are possible.

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      I don't believe it. How are you supposed to tell time in a dream? That is like putting someone in a plain white box, leaving them there and coming back 3 months later, and expecting them to tell accurate time.

      You can't use day/night cycles, watches, calendars, marks on the walls, or how often you eat to judge time within a dream. Trying to judge time based on your internal clock within a dream is silly.
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      I'd like to hear more aobut your three month lucid dream as well. I can't even imagine what that would be like. It would be amazing to experience something like that. There would be so much to do and see. I wish I was lucky enough to have an LD as long as that. Though it seems like for you, things got a little boring or tiring after a while.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      I don't believe it. How are you supposed to tell time in a dream? That is like putting someone in a plain white box, leaving them there and coming back 3 months later, and expecting them to tell accurate time.

      You can't use day/night cycles, watches, calendars, marks on the walls, or how often you eat to judge time within a dream. Trying to judge time based on your internal clock within a dream is silly.
      I can see where you're coming from that 3 months is an extremely long and oddly precise time to be realizing you're in while in a dream, but wouldn't you agree that a person can tell have some sense of time without tracking devices like clocks and watches, even within a dream, albeit a distorted one? I think it's possible to determine a GENERAL length of time when in a dream, to approximate what you felt was the period of time you dreamt; though I won't argue in any way that the aforementioned sense of time when in the dream world can be warped and distorted, it's there nonetheless.

      I'd like to ask them that as well, how they determined it was over the span of 11-13 weeks, entirely lucid.
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      Wow, I didn't realize there would be quite so much interest in that dream!

      You can read it in my DJ...obviously, it's REALLY freaking long because I was writing so much content into it, and you can read it by clicking here, but it's not really a fond memory of mine...I was faced with a lot of dark stuff about myself in that one, and even though I was lucid, I was strangely out of control, so it was more like three months of living hell than anything else. Had I been able to exercise some form of dream control that would have been a TON different, of course, but nothing worked...at all. It wasn't even like things changed, but not in the way I wanted exactly. No, things just didn't change at all, no matter what I did. I couldn't even wake myself up trying.

      As for all the questions about how I measured time, obviously we're not talking three real months, so in a way, it's a bit of an irrelevant detail. I saw the sun rise every morning and set every night and due to the limited nature of the dream I had to go to sleep and wake up each time it did. The time in between these occurrences was probably varied, but each one felt like a full day, and going to sleep inside the dream made the nights feel complete as well. I always kept track of how many days had passed by, since time was an essential player in the 'storyline' of the lucid nightmare, and I knew that as soon as three months had gone by I could get out.

      I also knew the time because there were DC's keeping track of it for me. My authorities, actually, or prison-keepers, however you wish to see it. Even though I kept track of things personally, they seemed to know better than I did when each month would be done.

      Oh well, I don't know how to make much more sense without everyone having read through the dream and knowing what details I'm referring to...so I'll just let that suffice for now.


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      LivingInTheDream, So you knew you were dreaming, had no control, why did you not just kill yourself and seen what would happen?

      But I have never experienced one and will not like to, if I could a week would be most.. yet that would still be only just bearable... With no control anyway.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dylan xD View Post
      LivingInTheDream, So you knew you were dreaming, had no control, why did you not just kill yourself and seen what would happen?
      Well I was always holding out hope that somehow I'd gain control and take over...and then I wanted to whip all those DC's something good

      And also there was this one DC girl that I kinda fell in love with (weird, I know, but I tend to view certain DC's as real people, just in case I'm shared dreaming without knowing it), so I wanted to keep living for that reason as well


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      Hmm, Sorta living in the moment while in that LD... But you still have to wonder, maybe if you killed yourself you could have become lucid.

      Don't mind me asking but did the DC girl like you back?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dylan xD View Post
      Hmm, Sorta living in the moment while in that LD... But you still have to wonder, maybe if you killed yourself you could have become lucid.

      Don't mind me asking but did the DC girl like you back?
      Honestly, I wasn't sure how long I was going to be stuck there, and it was so real that lucid dreaming or not I figured I might as well really live there.

      And yes she did, but it still didn't end up well...I mean duh, like things could have gone well


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      Livingthedream,

      That was a very interesting read. I couldn't help but wonder though as I read it. Did you lose your lucidity throughout this dream at times? It seemed like you just decided to go with it and not try to control anything about the dream. Also, what type of dream was this? WILD, MILD, DILD, ect...

      I've also had a friend who has told me about a dream that he had that lasted for about four years. He said it was from about second grade to the sixth grade. This was years ago and I don't talk to this friend anymore so I can't ask him about it but I have also heard that this can happen.
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      Well I have no doubt that a dream can feel that long. Though days and weeks can past by in a dream montage, and it would feel and seem real because your dreaming, but really your not experiencing any of it. Then when you think back, you would remebering doing all that stuff, and you did do it. It just took you 30 seconds to live an entire day.

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      I'm going to say...not possible. The brain only goes so fast...what you CAN do is focus on major aspects/events of daily life and sort of skip through the rest, and so make dreams feel much longer, but the dude in question did not live through 105 NORMAL years in the dream state. Upon waking, you would also expect your brain to fill in some of the gaps.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mario92 View Post
      I'm going to say...not possible. The brain only goes so fast...what you CAN do is focus on major aspects/events of daily life and sort of skip through the rest, and so make dreams feel much longer, but the dude in question did not live through 105 NORMAL years in the dream state. Upon waking, you would also expect your brain to fill in some of the gaps.
      Don't underestimate the brain. it can calculate information a trillion times faster then a modern computer, and we play games that have memory spans of years that we can play though in a day, so why is this implausible?

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      Quote Originally Posted by LiveInTheDream View Post
      I had a lucid dream that lasted for three months. It was the worst lucid experience ever, too. Somehow I lost all control in that time and so it wasn't like I tried to make that particular dream last a long time...I was just trapped! I had to do everything in there like I normally would...even sleep every night! Yes, I got tired in a lucid dream and slept, and then woke up still lucid, still in the dream, for three month's worth of days. That's how long it took for the dream to run its course and finally reach the end of the 'story', from which I woke up.
      Which makes me think.. how do we not know we aren't trapped right now?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Motumz View Post
      Which makes me think.. how do we not know we aren't trapped right now?
      Time is just a human invention.

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      Quote Originally Posted by IndigoGhost View Post
      Don't underestimate the brain. it can calculate information a trillion times faster then a modern computer, and we play games that have memory spans of years that we can play though in a day, so why is this implausible?
      Even if you sped up your perception of time ten fold (dangerous in and of itself), you still wouldn't be anywhere close to the mythical 105 years. The brain stores information well, but there are only seven active areas of thought processing. To speed up time in the dream, your brain would have to be working impossibly fast, and at those levels, you'd be more likely to wake up than stay dreaming. Chemicals can only jump a synapse so quickly...

      Quote Originally Posted by IndigoGhost View Post
      Time is just a human invention.
      ...experienced by humans...and the universe in general.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mario92 View Post
      Even if you sped up your perception of time ten fold (dangerous in and of itself), you still wouldn't be anywhere close to the mythical 105 years. The brain stores information well, but there are only seven active areas of thought processing. To speed up time in the dream, your brain would have to be working impossibly fast, and at those levels, you'd be more likely to wake up than stay dreaming. Chemicals can only jump a synapse so quickly...



      ...experienced by humans...and the universe in general.
      Think of your whole life at this second, and then think of time. if you were in a black box with no way of telling time then time does not exist. It is a human invention. You could have been born a second ago just a long second ago. Live in the moment there is no time. Tell me how can you be sure that everything is not a false memory?
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