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Title pretty much explains it all... I've heard more and more positive things about lucid anchors as of late. I stumbled upon (not using stumbleupon though :P) a website the other day (can't recall what it was called) that was dedicated to spreading the word of lucid dreaming. I was surprised to find that the only induction technique they described was Lucid Anchor... and this site seemed to get a lot of traffic, so you would think that this technique must work well... but, while I've heard a lot of things about it, I've actually never discussed it with anyone on here. I heard about it first on here, on an old post, where someone was going to start the technique and update everyone on how well it works... he/she didn't. :( I tried to contact the person, asking about how the technique is going, and she/he hasn't responded (and it's been a while). |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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No one?... |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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Never heard of it. Where can i find the description of this technique? |
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Probably Google... I tried to google it for you (lazy bum, lol), but I'm in a hurry, so I didn't spend much time looking. Before I paste a description of ONE way to do lucid anchor; it is important to mention that there are other ways as well... the one I heard works best involves looking at something near your bed, and envisioning it, and relating it to dreaming, along with some other things and more detials... there was much more to it, but I recently had shock therapy (for depression), and I cannot remember much of anything right now. Here's that other description: |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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Prior o post my answer i did google it. First i didn't find a technique with the name "Lucid Anchors", then i found some articles talking about anchors in dreams but it was so vague that i wanted to ask your for a link that has more detail. But yes, i'm a lazy bum. Big time. |
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You talking about an anchor when wilding? Or an anchor to keep you in the dream? Or lucid in the dream. An anchor is something that connects you to one thing and doesn't let it go. Technically a lucid anchor would be an anchor that connects you to your awareness, so all three have been called this. |
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Yeah, I had a similar problem with Google... and unfortunately, because of my ECT (shock therapy), I can't remember much of what I read about it, or where it was I originally saw it. But what I do know is that it is a method that is supposed to get you to link to an "anchor" that will cause you to do a reality check. Ordinarily you would do a reality check in the day randomly... or maybe because an app like (Awoken) reminded you to do a RC. With lucid anchor, it's about perhaps telling yourself that from here on out, whenever you walk through ANY door, you will do a reality check. Then this becomes habit, and you do it in a dream. There is more to it, I just can't remember shit right now... |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
Spoiler for Lucid Goals:
ECT is maybe going to be completely obsolete, because ketamin has been shown to be similarly effective: |
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It was a site dedicated to simply informing people of lucid dreaming... but it was very simple (no forum, etc.), and for some reason, what they called "Lucid Anchor" was all that they talked about... but I found the site on some other rather popular site, and this (along with the sites appearance--despite the simplicity) led me to believe that it must be getting a decent amount of traffic. |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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And you can't check your history and find it? Or just explain a lucid anchor? |
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This sounds like a tool to help you remember to do a reality check. Still not clear if in waking life or in a dream. |
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The point in a RC during the day, is to make it a habit. That way, you do it in your sleep. You are more conscientious during WL--compared to a non-lucid dream--and so doing a RC may come with ease... yet it usually isn't the case in dreams (or you would be lucid for every one). One way to get around this, is to tie your RC's with something you run into in WL and in dreams... this increases the chance of doing a RC while dreaming. |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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^^ Well habit is one thing, but as some point out, habit is highly unreliable. I've only had 1 or 2 "reflex" RCs get me lucid out of 36-ish LDs (and those still had a WTF!? moment preceding the RC, which indicates raised awareness). The real benefit of performing the RC in waking life is the *awareness* you practice in even thinking to do the RC, and the care with which you consider your surroundings, your mind, your memory, etc. The RC itself is just an aid in determination of your state (dream or awake). However, most of the time, increased awareness is what brings on the desire to perform an RC. In most of my LDs, however, I never do RCs, my raised awareness and familiarity with the dream state is what gets me lucid. I've done RCs for fun and in a few cases as a fall-back to make sure I'm really dreaming in a few cases. So if "Lucid Anchor" is a tool to try to trigger the performing of an RC, then I don't see the point: if you have the memory and the self-awareness to remember to perform the trigger, you're basically most of the way there to lucidity or are already lucid. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Interesting. Sounds like dream signs. Connecting schema so that when one pops up the other does as well. |
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I find it to be quite the opposite (though this may just be me). A RC during the day is completely pointless for any other reason then habit. When I do a RC during the day, it's very obvious to me that I'm awake. I just don't have the same mentality as in a non-lucid dream, so I do it in hopes I will do it in a dream as well--as I'm also sure I'm awake in dreams (that don't become lucid). The RC gets you to do a RC in a dream--by habit--plain and simple. As I continue to evolve as an oneironaut, more and more of my dreams don't even involve a RC... I simply realize that I'm dreaming, usually shoot up into the sky, and start my LD. A RC in WL does indeed raise your awareness in a dream (though I find that to be very minimal), however; you cannot say that making a RC a habit, to the point that you do it habitually in a dream, isn't going to cause more lucid dreams. I've had about 300 LDs (that I can recall--I know there has been much more) since my first, sometime in early 2012; and I can tell you with an appropriate amount of certainty, that a RC will get you lucid, almost every time. |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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Well, I'll have to go with Sageous and the generally prevailing wisdom on this one (appeal to authority |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
It's all about personal experience... I mean, I've had LDs last longer than a week... normal ones over 2 weeks. Most don't experience this (or even admit that it's possible). So; in the end: it's just a difference in opinion. |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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I do not doubt this sort of time perception is possible. I'm in fact looking forward to experiencing it myself! Do you do anything to promote it (step in to a "time chamber" or something?). Can you look back and add up subjective time and actually account for all of it? Or do you "jump forwards" to morning and think "oh that's another day" but with nothing to actually account for that time? Or can you say "wow, this has been another hour" and do that (12 or 24) * 7 times within the single dream? |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
It seems that the more I LD, the longer my dreams become. I don't do anything to promote it, other than enjoy it when it happens. It is indeed subjective time. In fact, that 2 week dream I had dreams in... and dreams inside those dreams; which was really strange. And I would always wake up back in the old dream--instead of starting some new one. I remember it more vivid than WL. I could remember it randomly starting... going throughout the day. Having my usual day dreams... going to work. Talking to people. Going home. Going on this site, facebook, watching TV, etc.... I remember trying to fall asleep. My dream... waking up... getting ready for the day, and on and on it goes. It was quite the experience. I have had dreams that have lasted YEARS if you go by the whole skip ahead stuff. The LDs are the same thing. I just recently had that 1 week LD. About a week or two ago, in fact. I was in it so long, that being lucid, I ended up saying: "You know... I've been in this dream for an awful long time. I have shit to do when I wake up... I hope I'm not oversleeping. I'm a little bored of being in a dream--fun and mind expanding, or not. I should probably wake up now. I've done all that I need to do for one dream." And then I woke myself up, lol. Didn't think that could ever happen... be in a LD so long you get bored and wake up. In the past 6 months my LDs have lasted an average of about 2-3 hours... my regular dreams more than double that. AVERAGE. SUBJECTIVE. It's pretty flippin sweet! And as I'm sure we all know here, REM only lasts abou 30 mins at max, every 90 mins or so... so it deff isn't just me having a long REM cycle... in fact; I suspect that it is probably non-REM dreams. |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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The real scary part of the 2 week non-lucid dream was when I would have a LD and then wake up and not bother to RC, or suspect anything. The dream was too normal and vivid to really suspect anything. Nothing unusual happened in it. Not much at all, actually... |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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What's fun to think about; is the only reason that 2 week non-LD ended, was I FINALLY became lucid... it blew my mind so much that I had been in a dream for over 2 weeks--that I had to do a whole bunch of shit over again--that it woke me up almost instantly. |
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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein
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