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      Meditation

      I've been searching for information on spiritual-related activities, more specifically, meditation since I've read it could help with lucid dreaming.
      I've been googling it but couldn't really find anything solid, everything I find are book/DVD selling websites or only with very basic data.
      I'm posting to ask for enlightment from someone with knowledge on this. I want to know begginer techniques, the advantages of it, if there is an helpful meditation website or forum, anything you think could be useful or interesting

      Thank you in advance.
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      As a beginner myself, I like to start out with stretching while focusing on deep breathing to relax and get all that CO2 out of my blood. When I feel nice and loose I find a position I'm comfortable enough stay in for anywhere between 30-45 minutes in an environment I find suitable (outside or inside). Depending on what kind of meditation your practicing (mindful, concentration, movements, etc.) there are other preparations in order to center yourself, but it's definitely a matter of preference. Without writing an essay, my advice would be to start simple and do lots of different kinds of stretching to work on your flexibility and also your breathing technique- it's fundamental to anything you do with regard to meditation.
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      There's a "golden light" or "white light" meditation that is good for beginners. Its basically visualizing/imagining a gold or white light filling your body and clearing it of negative energies. People who do it sometimes report feelings or sensations. It lasts from about 5 to 10 minutes depending on how long it takes to visualize it and how long you want to stay in this state.

      Also, when getting into the meditative state, I sometimes count down from 10 to 1, and tell myself that with each number I am getting more and more focused, and that at 1 my mind will be clear and I will be completely in the meditative state. It helps with visualizing to either say the numbers, or imagine drawing them on a chalk board in front of you, then erasing for each new number. Or combing numbers and sounds. Then going out of the meditative state I just repeat the process in reverse, except waking myself up out of it instead.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Neo Neo View Post
      There's a "golden light" or "white light" meditation that is good for beginners. Its basically visualizing/imagining a gold or white light filling your body and clearing it of negative energies. People who do it sometimes report feelings or sensations. It lasts from about 5 to 10 minutes depending on how long it takes to visualize it and how long you want to stay in this state.

      Also, when getting into the meditative state, I sometimes count down from 10 to 1, and tell myself that with each number I am getting more and more focused, and that at 1 my mind will be clear and I will be completely in the meditative state. It helps with visualizing to either say the numbers, or imagine drawing them on a chalk board in front of you, then erasing for each new number. Or combing numbers and sounds. Then going out of the meditative state I just repeat the process in reverse, except waking myself up out of it instead.
      I will definitly try this. 5 to 10 minutes is probably the longer time I can do this, so techniques that take a very long time are definitly not for me.

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      There are two types of meditations, transcendental and mindful.

      Transcendental is intended to put you into a state of deep, and similar techniques can also be used for WILDs, or just to generally help you fall asleep. The most basic format is counting down from 100, breathing with each count, relaxing yourself a little bit more with each breath. Visualizations like the white-light referred to earlier are helpful for the body-scanning aspect, used to relax each individual part of the body.

      Mindful meditation is helpful for dream recall and lucidity retention because it promotes focus. The general idea behind mindful meditation is to watch your watching self, or to tap into impartial, pure-awareness. To begin you can build focus by counting 5-10 breaths (I would start with 5) and restarting the count over and over again, this keeps the mind on task and in the present moment. It's also helpful to do a body-scan because the purpose of this meditation is to surrender to the present moment. Distractions will come, and these distractions can be labeled (remembering, planning, analyzing, etc) so that you may gently return your attention to the present. Remember the focus you are trying to build comes from surrender, not control, so don't punish yourself for getting distracted. Also, don't punish yourself for punishing yourself. A state of pure focus begins with equanimity, meaning you regard everything in your attention for what it is, without taking particular preference.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Here is a link to the Dream Yoga class Basic Skills: Lesson 1

      Lesson 1 and 2 give many varieties of meditation. They are some what advanced, but require no prior skill or practice. Maybe you will find one of them interesting.

      http://www.dreamviews.com/f157/dream...on-1-a-131666/
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      You can try also telepathic communication in waking life and dreams. It actually works, but if you get used to it too much you'll end up not even talking in dreams because you are mind reading. That's where i am at now, i need to balance it out
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      Quote Originally Posted by hathor28 View Post
      You can try also telepathic communication in waking life and dreams. It actually works, but if you get used to it too much you'll end up not even talking in dreams because you are mind reading. That's where i am at now, i need to balance it out
      Telepathic communication? I'd like an explanation, please.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TruMotion View Post
      You actually made me RC
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      It seems to me that MILD technique would dovetail with meditation quite nicely. Use that meditative control to focus on the dream state. That and the MILD tek works very well with meditation.
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      Read my DJs you'll see. And i actually finally spoke in todays dream with my recurring dude and jealous female! good steps for me! But i end up always mind reading people in my dreams :\
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      Telepathic communication? I'd like an explanation, please.
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      As a beginner in meditation, you must go to a place where you are comfortable, no one will disturb you, a quiet place where you can do your meditation.
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      I would suggest looking up Aro Meditation, which you can subscribe to by email for free. They send you a lesson every week and it is much more practical than picking up a book and reading it all at once.

      Sivason's stuff looks pretty good, too. I intend to dive deep into the dream yoga once my own meditative practice is more developed.
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      According to me, meditation is all about deep breathing as well as keeping your mind healthy plus calm. Many individuals around the world have benefited from meditation technique. Meditation includes closing your eyes as well as holding your breath. This is very powerful way to keep your mind healthy and at peace.

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      I'm definitly subscribing to Aro Meditation.
      I haven't got much into meditation yet, but the more I read about it the more excited I become.

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      You won't regret it. You will learn a variety of basic techniques and should see the value in it fairly quickly.

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      I'm on it already. Tried the first lesson. Let's see how it goes.
      It's incredible how meditation can help you, not just in lucid dreaming but also in life.

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      I meditate intensely for one year. Last 3 months almost every day. The first successful meditation was when I was doing the "white light." Now I meditate using crystals, they helps me very much.
      I'm lying on the floor with a pillow under my head. Crystal is always on the 6th Chakra. Deeply inhaling a white light, exhaling all negative energy in the form of a black haze.
      I visualize that white light is around me and in me.
      Often in meditation I use binaural waves. Meditation takes 25 to 40 minutes. But the sense of the passage of time is much smaller. After the meditation I feel perfectly.

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      I recommend yoga. It has a lots of kinds but each one has special effect. In fact there is one that could cause to open your third eye. If you're interested with that then yoga is the perfect fit.

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      There's a good article on meditation on isleepbetter.com. It won't let me post the link since I haven't been a member long enough. If you go to that site and put in meditation, you should be able to find it.

      Good luck!

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      thanks, i'll definitely check it out. I've been so unmotivated lately. Haven't meditated in like 2 weeks. I even set up an alarm clock but I still don't do it. damn.

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      I understand! My doctor wants me to do yoga. I still haven't gotten motivated to do it yet!

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      "Mindfulness in Plain English" is my favorite book if your interested in meditation. This book is about vipassana meditation, which is basically just focusing on your breath. It's an easy read.
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      Quote Originally Posted by rosebanks123 View Post
      In fact there is one that could cause to open your third eye.
      What is it?

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