Yuvyuv's Workbook

[yuvyuv]

I practice mindfulness meditation - thats how i got to the subject My main goal is to lucid dream I also sleepwalk a lot - so if i can find a solution to this it would be great I started this course cause i faild doing wilds (i bought 102 for people who know what it is) and i wasted to much time thinking about lucid dreaming so this course is great for me to limit the time i think of LD and hopefully will also have success What i do : Dream journal Reality check - 1 time a day - before sleep : (asking if i am dreaming now+thinking if its logical the scenario that i am in + pinching the nose + looking at my hands)

[OpheliaBlue]

Hi yuvyuv, welcome to DVA! I practice mindfulness meditation - thats how i got to the subject My main goal is to lucid dream Then you've found the right place. One question, have yuo ever had a lucid experience before, or come close, that you can remember? I also sleepwalk a lot - so if i can find a solution to this it would be great I used to as a child, then I mostly grew out of it. I'll see if I can find some info on this site, or members who have had similar issues and resolved them. I started this course cause i faild doing wilds (i bought 102 for people who know what it is) and i wasted to much time thinking about lucid dreaming so this course is great for me to limit the time i think of LD and hopefully will also have success I have no idea what 102 is, a supplement of some kind? Well I'll be perfectly honest with you yuvyuv, this class is very much focused on daily awareness, and consciously incubating lucid dreams during the day, because we believe keeping lucid dreaming on the forefront of your mind is one of the best ways to achieve lucidity. If that's not the direction you're interested in, you can certainly stay on board for a while, and see if you're able to achieve any success in the Intro class. Otherwise, you might want to try one of the other classes which have different approaches that won't have you eating and breathing LDs all day. What i do : Dream journal Reality check - 1 time a day - asking if i am dreaming now+thinking if its logical the scenario that i am in + pinching the nose How much time should pass before moving to lesson 2 ? Sounds like you're off to a great start. This class is user-paced, so you can move to the next lesson when you feel you've mastered the concepts in the previous one. Let me know if you have any other questions, be happy to help you along.

[yuvyuv]

have yuo ever had a lucid experience before, or come close, that you can remember? no i didnt - there are dreams i remember but no lucid - the closest i came was when i had this great dream and i was awake for 15 minutes and said to myself i must dream of it again and went back to sleep and continued the dream - and it was complicated dream about a futuristic mystical city not about a know place 102 - is the second part of lucidology101.com which is a plan how to wild which i paid 34$ to read and tryed it and thought about it all day but no success - just dont one to publish it cause im not sure it works and its not a scam

[yuvyuv]

I have 3 dream signs i might have - from 6 short dreams in 2 nights : study places - birds - food food seems the easiest reality check to do - so before eating i will allways do a RC and before bed one time

[OpheliaBlue]

no i didnt - there are dreams i remember but no lucid - the closest i came was when i had this great dream and i was awake for 15 minutes and said to myself i must dream of it again and went back to sleep and continued the dream - and it was complicated dream about a futuristic mystical city not about a know place My mom and brother both said that they learned how to "continue dreams." I eventually learned how to myself, and managed to entwine this process with DEILD (Dream Exit Initiated Lucid Deam). Here's a tutorial on DEILD: DEILD Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views 102 - is the second part of lucidology101.com which is a plan how to wild which i paid 34$ to read and tryed it and thought about it all day but no success - just dont one to publish it cause im not sure it works and its not a scam Did you mean lucidology.com? Just wondering because lucidology101.com directed me to a "Website Suggestions" page.

[yuvyuv]

sorry i should have checked its :ww lucidology c o m no 101 but to see the videos that are free watch in youtube at : ww youtube com/watch?v=ZgJOMqIhvHM but im not sure i want people to see this and pay him - he might be ok im just not sure - i read a thread here in DV that someone says his kind of a scam it has a free part which is 101 and you need to pay for 102 - but i see that there is no need cause there are lots of knowledge here - and i will continue from here to the WILD course but i allready seen one good WILD toutrial here I think i had a zero level lucid dream : i saw on the video you linked in the homework ww youtube c o m /watch?v=ywwlib29LgU&feature=list_related&playnext= 1&list=SPCD2ADE63BB187AB5 from DJ : its all messed up i will say the important parts after this quote : i am seeing animals in the safari and trying to eat each other - just like watching national geographic - later i am inside the at safari and i try not to get eatn later on i see in front of me like a computer menu with difficulty and i can change it to very easy where i cant die and can reborn but then i would have to wait a bit and see the animal eating me and that is not nice so i decide to stay on hard (now i see some cows) i keep walking and then i think to myself i might fly so i fly just by going up ( like a computer game) - later i dont know how i turn to an paper airplane - i get annoyed that it dosnt stay up but i have to press the up button so i talk to my brother and someother guy and they try to fix it ... later on i get a thought that flying like this is probobly how they fly when people have lucid dreams ... later on i get a thought that flying like this is probobly how they fly when people have lucid dreams - that is layer zero minor right ? later on i see in front of me like a computer menu with difficulty and i can change it to very eas - this is zero major cause i can control the dream ?

[OpheliaBlue]

Yes you had a layer 0 minor, then a layer 0 major. That's really good, those types of dreams are quite often precursors to having a full fledged lucid dream. I don't know if that guy is a scam or not, but I think everything anyone needs to know about LDing is right here on this site, for free

[yuvyuv]

I now had a dream - dont bother reading cause its all messy which i realize i walked in circles and later i looked at my dog and thought that is not how she looks like i felt bad cause i didnt have any layer zero but then i thought - are this two "events" half a layer zero ?

[OpheliaBlue]

Well you began questioning reality in your dream, and whatever layer you want to call it, it's the beginnings of attaining lucidity, so well done!

[yuvyuv]

So what i do now is : Dream journal and will start a waking life journal before sleep to help my recall - hope no one will read this cause im a bum - is there a way to make the dream journal private ?? I also will do wild free falling cause mantras keep me awake - if it dosnt work at least it will help me sleep i will do a RC whenever i eat until night 10 included - after that i can decide what new dream signals should i do a RC when i see them

[paigeyemps]

is there a way to make the dream journal private ?? No, I don't think so. I hope they add that feature some time in the future (or soon) so we can put all our dreams in one place, and just get the option to publicize it or not.

[yuvyuv]

Changing what i do again - first the day journal tryed it once didnt work - most people said it works instantly - i dont want to try it more What i do : RC whenever something is new or strange + dream journal + before sleeping do meditation where i only focus on breathing - i think this is zazen meditation - someone say you can get a WILD just by this - i hope its true it makes sense

[Caenis]

Hey yuvyuv. Part of the purpose of the day journal is to help improve your memory, so I think it might be more helpful if you try it over the course of a week or two. Most methods take time to work. One of the mods, fOrceez, suggested to me that you should try a method for 3-4 weeks before giving up. Some people can notice instant results, but most people need to work a little harder at LDing in order to get results. before sleeping do meditation where i only focus on breathing - i think this is zazen meditation - someone say you can get a WILD just by this - i hope its true it makes sense I've heard that some people can manage that, yes! It sounds very difficult to do. Good luck with it! Soooooo your induction techniques are DILD and WILD currently, yes? Have you looked into MILD at all? Do you use any aids, such as WBTB or dietary changes? Have you noticed any dream signs? I try to remember to RC a lot when I encounter dream signs, in the hope that will carry over to my dreams.

[yuvyuv]

MILD - mantra using keeps me awake - so someone explained to me in the chat its about a thought and not the word and i should imagine myself doing an RC - so that isnt really a mantra thats imagination right ? - i will try it maybe well the breathing is hard - did till my back hurt - now i will try body asleep mind awake i was awake 3 hours without moving with this but swallowed salaiva after an hour or so - but from time to time i thought about my body so next time i will think only on my mantra and it might work my dream signs i guess are : learning places - schools ,universties but i study all day , family members but also i see them all day , former roomates which i dont see at all , so for now what i do is like i said RC whenever something is new or strange about day dream journal - i thought about using memory exrcises instead might be better - but maybe its not good that my head will be filled with to much memories ? and remember only the important things in life - maybe it will effect my brain - my recall is ok i think

[Caenis]

MILD - mantra using keeps me awake - so someone explained to me in the chat its about a thought and not the word and i should imagine myself doing an RC - so that isnt really a mantra thats imagination right ? - i will try it maybe Yeah, I found that mantras would also keep me up. I started doing my mantras right before I go to bed, instead of in bed. Sometimes I still do it while I'm laying in bed though. You're right, the technique suggested to you isn't a mantra, but it's still often used in MILD! It's dream incubation. I like dream incubation myself, I hope that works well for you. DEILD might be a better option for you than WILD, it'll be a little easier to do. I try WILD every once in a while, but usually I just fall asleep. =p If you want to see some progress with WILD, it'll probably take time--just like any induction technique! Keep trying it, yuvyuv. Have you looked at Sageous' WILD class?

[yuvyuv]

Have you looked at Sageous' WILD class? yeah but thats to much for me - i allready "waste" to much time on lucid dreaming i dont want to be aware all day long

[OpheliaBlue]

yeah but thats to much for me - i allready "waste" to much time on lucid dreaming i dont want to be aware all day long How do you mean exactly, that you waste too much time on lucid dreaming? Awareness is more of a state of mind, and can be done anytime. And of course, the dreaming itself occurs when you are asleep. So do you feel like you are losing sleep time by doing WBTBs?

[yuvyuv]

yes i dont like the WBTB cause i feel i am loosing sleep time BUT after setting an alarm once a night for a week maybe two - i dont put an alarm now for 2 weeks and i still wake up 4 times each night now - 4 WBTB a night If i will WILD i wont have any sleeping time - and i need to go pee every time i wake up so deild is hard

[OpheliaBlue]

To fit your schedule best, you may want to just go for daily awareness, plus DILD. And get back on your normal sleep schedule. Lesson III covers many of the pros and cons of each induction technique, for further reference.

[yuvyuv]

just want to update what i do is mindfulness all day which i allready wanted to do - i think its like ADA (all day awerness) that you can read about here in DV and i keep doing RCs and the dream journal i belive it will work with time i am not intersted to take part in classes untill this works - i will give a chance to this method and because i wanted to do mindfulness its not like im doing something just for lucid dreaming (except the RCs and journal)

[Caenis]

Hey yuvyuv, I hope that you are practicing mindfulness successfully! You're right, it will definitely take time to work. It's also pretty tiring to try to be mindful/aware for the entire day if you're not used to it. It's good to take a break if you feel overwhelmed by it. Let us know whenever you have some success with mindfulness.