Thread: Ironice''s Workbook [Intro Class]

Hello, I'm Ironice
As a child I've had some dreams where I kinda knew I was dreaming and tried to control them. One example is that in a dream I found out that if I shook my whole body I could fly (It wasnt effective but it worked and I did not know anything about lucid dreaming at that time). When I was 17-18 I found out about lucid dreaming, and I started to practice it. It has been on, off, on, off. But I'm starting to take it more "serious"


Reality Checks:
- Awareness/checking surroundings.
- Push fingers/hand through stuff.
- Look at things 2 times to check if they have changed.

Dream Signs:
1 Ex-school friends.
2 Childhood home.
3 Being chased.
4 My stepsisters. (To increase prospective memory)
5 Some of my cousins. (To increase prospective memory)

Short-Term Goals:
- Increase recall
- Get my sleep pattern straight

Long-Term Goals:
- Master an induction technique.

Things to do in LD/Goals:
- Poke a dream character.
- Taste something liquid and describe what it tasted like.
- Use magic to turn light on or make fire.
- manipulate elements to make "art" (like painting in the sky)
- Slap MrPriority.

Achieved Goals:
- Completed a TotM (Advanced i march 2015)
- Used a gun to shoot portals (Like in the video game)

Current Dream Recall status:
- 23 dreams recalled March 2015

Current Technique:
- DILD
- WBTB

Things I've done in lucid dreams:

Spoiler for :p:

Before DreamViews
- Summoned a big black bus (even though I wanted a lamborghini)
- Flown around a couple of times.
- Jumped very high so I could look down at my house (It's cool to see things from a whole new perspective)
- Asked a DC who she were. She got really confused and said "I thought we were going on a mission".
- Gotten stapped in the hand and pulled the kinfe out again.
- Watched a video I summoned up on the sky, while I sat on the ground.

After DreamViews
- Flown (eg. like Ironman).
- Said hello to my subconscious.
- Used a mirror as a portal (03-2015 TotM).
- Used a kids toy gun as a portal gun.

Hey Ironice, welcome to Intro class!

Don't worry about all the confusing new information, things will become clearer as you go along. We have a wealth of resources - from the tutorials to other member's journals and workbooks, which I also recommend checking out to help understand the what's and how's of lding. Let us know if you have any questions.

Thanks for the welcome NyxCC, I've read some tutorials some of them only some of the words 'cause it seemed like I already understood them. I've also read some of the other workbooks, and got ashamed of mine :p (I may be a perfectionist)
I will let you or the forum know if I have any questions or else I hope to get some advice or guidance of what I write in this workbook : )

Todays update:
Yesterday I went to bed 22:20 (10:20 PM) but I did not enter the world until it was 02:00 (02:00 AM). In that time I meditated a little (or tried, I'm not entirely sure how to do it, what to see and such?), also gave myself some affirmations for the DILD/MILD technique saying "I'm good at lucid dreaming..... I will remember my dreams...... I will know that I'm dreaming" and so on. I also listened to the DV podcast, and started to smile of it sometimes I also turned on the TV at the end and watched Malcolm in the middle and some How I met your mother.. I then fell asleep.. [EDIT: I was actually about to fall asleep before turning on the tv, but I started to hear lots of bird noises and it was about to drive me insane ]

This morning I woke up I don't know if I was laying still but I recalled 4-5 dreams, 2 with good detail of story and more writing and the rest was more like fragments. 3 of them included frequent dreamsigns or sub DS's.
I continued practicing some prospective memory + RC training where I choose one thing, place, and so on and when I see or are at that place I do a RC. If I need to give myself points from 1-10 I'll give myself 10 maybe 9 'cause I am not sure if I missed something but I dont believe so. No I will give myself 7 cause I could do it a little better with my awareness and lucid dream plan routine. I did look around and try to active as many senses as possible and get into a dreamlike state where I will try to think "this food is dreamfood" or "this door is a dream door lets see whats behind it".

Is it recommended to use DV's DJ? I can try to put in pictures and explain how I journal my dreams at the moment.

I also listened to the DV podcast, and started to smile of it sometimes

The podcasts are great, very inspiring and get one think about lding.

Is it recommended to use DV's DJ? I can try to put in pictures and explain how I journal my dreams at the moment.

You can use any journal that helps keep track of your dreams. I like digital ones better because you can later search through them faster. We have that option here, so if you like you can use it. Other people prefer paper based journals and some use voice recorders or a combination of these.

I think I will keep to my DJ http://i.imgur.com/62HGGVD.jpg , but also post some dreams on DV now and then. (I write my dreams (In my language) on a DJ website and print them out).

I've swithed the *pretend you are dreaming* out with ADA (All Day Awareness), 'cause it ended up being too weird thinking of everything and everyday as a dream. (Scared me a little at the end)
So I try to be aware as much as possible, notice the little things. But sometimes I also try to practice dream control in waking life to check if it's a dream and also I think it's a good way to get used to controlling things that way.

My meditation and sleep pattern has been a little worse these days because I'm feeling a little sick and that makes it difficult for me to sleep, as I get a little anxious when sick.
Dream recall has also been a little off because of being sick, but I had succes with something. There was a time that I couldnt remember any dreams at all. Then I started to think, what do I often dream of?
I said in my mind "Father, sister, Nikolaj" When I said Nikolaj a dream popped up and I started to remember. That was kinda cool.

- I feel like the goals I wrote in the beginning is a little off, can I change that post at any time or what should I do?

You have a nice journal!

I feel like the goals I wrote in the beginning is a little off, can I change that post at any time or what should I do?

Sure, you can use the edit button at the right to middle down part of the post to update your goals.

That sounds cool. Wow I havent been on this workbook for some time now

Update:
In this month I've had 2 LD's already. The second I don't remember much from because I didnt prepare my DJ. But I remember becoming lucid: *I pushed my finger through my other hand there I knew I was dreaming, I kept my fingers inside my other hand looked up and saw the world becoming more vivid, but I also said "Clarity now!" and the it all got build much faster. A woman started to talk like it was a god or my subconsciousness* That's what I remember from that dream.

I've also kept practicing awareness, prospective memory and reality checks. It's all getting better, but I'm not that good a choosing things for my prospective memory training.
- Also I think the awareness practice adds some anxiety to me, but I guess I can handle it

I stopped meditation, but I think I will start again soon.
Sleep pattern is better though : )

Pfff 2 already! You are not making this easy for me! Congrats with the LD's Seems you are getting them more and more often!

Oh, nice! Congrats on the early lds! Have you checked our http://www.dreamviews.com/tasks-mont...ly-2014-a.html for some inspiration? These can also be used for prospective memory training if you think about them during the day. The perfect drill for your next ld.

Congrats on your 2 LD this month!

Thank you guys, sorry I havent replied before now, but I've been busy and also needed some time offline
I've looked up lots of, challenges yes, and many of them look so fun xD
I'm definitely going to do those challenges, when I get a better hold on lucid dreaming and have done stuff I would like to do aswell

Mrprio I dont think you need to worry, I'm taking it easy with lucid dreaming, due to lots of things going on

A little update:

I think I just WILD'ed.

I was at my sisters apartment and I woke up from sleep.. I went on facebook and saw a post by "The Mind Unleashed" about spirituallity. I read it and saw the video in the post. I read more about the subject and I went to meditate a little. I stopped and started to think a little. Suddenly my body felt like I had meditated for a long time, like I was about to get (sleep) paralyzed.

Dream and hallucinations
I started to see people and scenes and hear the people talking. The scenes changed, but I still feel like I was a big part of those scenes.
Then I were there I was in an apartment, I suddenly had 2 kids and a girlfriend or wife. My partner put the kids to bed in the kitchen xD
A little weird but okay. Then my partner and I had fun and she reminded me to stay lucid xD..

Was this WILD, or something on it's way to a wild?

Great to hear from you Ironice! Yes, this was a successful wild, congrats!

Mrprio I dont think you need to worry, I'm taking it easy with lucid dreaming, due to lots of things going on

Sure, do things at your own pace just be sure not to abandon thoughts about lding altogether and lose that ld momentum. Take care!

I've done one more ld incduction like that, the dreams are short. But I think it's good enough
A little progress is better than no progress at all

And thanks!

I will do it in my own pace. I stopped writing my dreams on the computer like I did before, and started to write it with pen and paper.
The computer thing was too much for me to handle in the long run

Woo you're still alive! Nice! Congrats on your LD!

Good that you are taking things at your own pace, that is the best way! I also find myself picking up things and dropping them left and right. Only keeping what I think works and feels good. If you get stressed by your technique, it will only work counter productive

Anyways, I missed you man I haven't been able to slap you in any of my dreams yet and haven't seen you around to do it on IRC either! I'm starting to have withdrawal symptoms here!
I'm just kidding of course. Good to hear from you and best of luck for your next LD!

reply to MrPriority

I missed you too mate : ) I've missed the slaps!


Update:

I have updated the first post in this workbook, so it's more suiting for me right now.

It seems like my recall is improving, but it could still get better.
Pen and paper journaling is much more manageable for me

Update:

I had a lucid dream through a false awakening.

In the dream I woke up, and wrote some lines down in dream journal and then I crossed them out. Maybe because what I wrote didnt make sense?. Then I found my tablet and took a picture of myself, looked at the picture and looked left, right, left, right, and noticed that the picture did the same. I was dreaming! I continued looking right, left, right, left as fast as I could cause I was amazed by it. Then I wanted to staballize the dream by rubbing my hands, and suddenly I was in my bed again had my hands up in the air rubbing my hands

After I woke up I looked at my watch and found that I had some more time to sleep in, so I practiced lucid dreaming. By doing what I would do in a lucid dreaming while I was awake. I then went to bed and felt like I was about to be paralyzed, but then it went away. I stayed in the same position but nothing happened after a long time. I then laid on my back and thought about some stuff, I could do today to get ready for the day, and then I fell asleep. I recalled lengthy dreams but I did not get lucid again.

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To do:

Today I will read through some of the latest pages in my dream journal and find the most recurring dreamsigns.
I will start taking statistics over my sleep and dreamsand write weekly and monthly statistics here.

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Question: I fall asleep with my tv on, with sleep timer on. Is it bad or is it just fine?

Awesome, congrats on the ld! Must have been pretty crazy seeing the picture act like a reflection in a mirror. I've never spent time looking at pics in an ld, but mirror and other reflections do all sorts of cool stuff. Once there was this little girl in a puddle of water on the street!

Question: I fall asleep with my tv on, with sleep timer on. Is it bad or is it just fine?

A lot of the sleep advice out there recommends not to spend the very last mins before sleep stimulating the eyes by bright lights. This include all sorts of devices, lamps, etc. The reason is that the brain produces melatonin (the sleep hormone) when it's dark. By being exposed to bright lights you are reducing the production of it, which may cause delay in sleep onset, less restorative sleep and even decreased recall.

Do you have any related issues? If possible, I'd suggest to minimize the time spent with bright screens, although I can understand how hard it is nowadays with all the devices and entertainment available.

Thanks and yes it was very crazy and kinda scary too
It sound scary with that little girl

To the lights and devices:

I usually dampen the light on the tv screen when I'm about to sleep, I find it soothing to have some sound from a source I know. Instead of different sounds from the house, wind and such.

My go to bed and fall asleep routine is usually as follows:
1) I'm done with what ever I was doing on my computer or I just finished reading something on my tablet.
2) I brush my teeth and all that kind of stuff and go to bed.
3) I turn on the tv and watch something on netflix.
4) I feel the "I can sleep now effect" and I turn away from the tv and fall asleep.

Delay in sleep onset: I usually find it harder to sleep without the tv turned on..
Less restorative sleep: I dont know..
Decreased recall: I currently feel like my recall is increasing

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If I should minimize time spent with bright screens, what would you suggest I do?

I usually sleep with the TV on...wastes electricity :/
But, mostly I sleep with a Portable light.
Light helps me sleep.

Alright then, as long as it doesn't affect you negatively I guess you can leave the tv on, but keep what I said in mind .

You can reduce the brightness on the tablet/PC if you have to use it before going to bed.

@blazingnyancat; It's good to know I'm not the only one, that has some needs to be able to sleep

Yeah I always turn it down as much as I can, and also cause you dont need so much brightness when it's dark
I will keep that in mind

I'm back.. I hope : )

I start out by getting my sleep on right course, right now I usually wake up at 4pm. I will try to wake up at 11:30am write in my Dream Journal and then go biking for a little.

When I'm about to go to bed I will analyse my dreams.

My motivation will be to taste the rain, could be interesting (I will try to make it taste like Fanta).

Welcome back, Ironice! Great lucid goal, I'd never thought of that one! Can't wait to hear about it when you get that first taste of Fanta-flavored rain.

Keep us up to date on how you do!

Great to see you back, Ironice! Good luck with your new dream goal!

Thank you 2 for wishing me welcome back.

Hehe I thought it would be a fun thing to try : )

I'll keep you updated