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      Fuck the pharmaceutical industry, costs a million (or is it billion...damn it I can't remember!!) dollars just to approve ONE bacteriophage, and you need at least THREE bacteriophages to make a decent threat against other diseases. I find no sense of being impressed that mankind has advanced with that type of mindset that doesn't even give two shits about the health of everyone. And that price range is just for it to go into TESTING...that bitch industry is nothing but a money-stealing powerhouse.

      A professor in my Biochemistry Department already found a bacteriophage mix to tackle against a flesh-eating virus, he needs 3 millions/billion (he kept switching values) dollars to legally test it, you think that's fucking fair that something like that is already in manifestation, but cannot be spread out because of fear of it mutating humans? (And it doesn't by the way since bacteriophages do not affect humans). It's this same reason that these "amazing" discoveries in the industry is soooooooo phenomenal. Bullshit, it's outdated man, it's dead, if you want new shit, you have to pay up, because the industry is afraid of shutting down to findings like my professor discovered that will be more efficient than them (that's why they're suddenly magistrates in regulations because of that fear). Plants aren't going to do shit because by the time we find out, we would already eradicate the whole fucking species to save our asses.

      There's not much I'm going to learn about plants in this class, it's just listening to guest speakers and OUTDATED information about nature that's basically common sense now. SO WHAT IF PLANTS ARE IMPORTANT, there's still people with shit for brains, not much of an advancement other than draining our brain power with useless shit.

      You got me at the girl part though. I'm done. May I live to see a horrible tomorrow.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Linkzelda41 View Post
      Fuck the pharmaceutical industry, costs a million (or is it billion...damn it I can't remember!!) dollars just to approve ONE bacteriophage, and you need at least THREE bacteriophages to make a decent threat against other diseases. I find no sense of being impressed that mankind has advanced with that type of mindset that doesn't even give two shits about the health of everyone. And that price range is just for it to go into TESTING...that bitch industry is nothing but a money-stealing powerhouse.

      A professor in my Biochemistry Department already found a bacteriophage mix to tackle against a flesh-eating virus, he needs 3 millions/billion (he kept switching values) dollars to legally test it, you think that's fucking fair that something like that is already in manifestation, but cannot be spread out because of fear of it mutating humans? (And it doesn't by the way since bacteriophages do not affect humans). It's this same reason that these "amazing" discoveries in the industry is soooooooo phenomenal. Bullshit, it's outdated man, it's dead, if you want new shit, you have to pay up, because the industry is afraid of shutting down to findings like my professor discovered that will be more efficient than them (that's why they're suddenly magistrates in regulations because of that fear). Plants aren't going to do shit because by the time we find out, we would already eradicate the whole fucking species to save our asses.

      There's not much I'm going to learn about plants in this class, it's just listening to guest speakers and OUTDATED information about nature that's basically common sense now. SO WHAT IF PLANTS ARE IMPORTANT, there's still people with shit for brains, not much of an advancement other than draining our brain power with useless shit.

      You got me at the girl part though. I'm done. May I live to see a horrible tomorrow.
      Woah cowboy....
      Why wouldn't the pharmaceutical companies just sell bacteriophages instead?
      I agree they have people in all the regulatory agencies and that fucks it up, but the discoveries themselves are incredible.
      We're fucking close to eradicating HIV for christ's sake. Plus we already have eradicated multiple fatal diseases.
      Thanks to chemists in the pharmaceutical industry.

      And I see nothing wrong with the money it costs to get something approved. That is just the cost of trials etc., maybe some bribes to the regulatory agencies thrown in lol
      That regulation is needed otherwise you end up with contamination and drugs which have way too many side effects or just simply don't work.

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      No, I'm saying that another industry should be in charge of regulations without the outrageous costs to test them, especially if a professor can do it with a teacher's salary...

      We will never be close to eradicating HIV, at least not in this generation or even the next. The reason why it's so much of a challenge in the first place is because it does the opposite from the typical DNA-->RNA process, which means that it is prone to make mistakes, which means there can be more mutations. What may be the key to almost eradicating it maybe become useless once there is a mutation that can resist it. Until HIV (the components of what makes its composition) turns into a perfectionist, and by that I mean not making any mistakes to cause mutations, it's going to be a constant tackle in eradicating HIV.

      It isn't something you can just "cure" with a one quick fix miracle. Eventually, these "cures" will die out because they aren't enough to tackle the mutations. And these multiple fatal diseases are nothing compared to more that will become apparent in the future. The more you delay regulations because of extreme and outrageous price ranges, the more the virus is going to be harder to fix because it will continue to mutate, and unless you have something that can mutate along with it and keep up (Bacteriophages is the key here), seeing major diseases destroyed is idealism.

      As much as what the textbook and media gives you about finding all these "cures" and solutions, they are only temporary. Everyone is going to be happy until something happens and the disease fucks up the effectiveness. Small pox, sure, that's pretty much gone, but HIV is different.

      If you can find a way to stop the reverse process (you can only delay it for a while, but not completely because by then the strand is already in the genetic makeup, and once it's there...hope you can live long enough for it).

      And even there's a solution to destroy the cells, it's already embedded to the human cells that it would be rocket science to find a way compel your body to think it's not some other virus trying to kill the virus that it thinks is a part of it.

      And like I said, bacteriophages do not affect humans in any way. They are one of the prime examples of something that can mutate (medicine and vaccines cannot mutate, therefore it's perfect for bacteriophages to be used instead of these temporary cures these "chemists" are making.

      We are humans god damn it, we can't stop anything that is around us without knowing something else is growing more and more. We need germs and diseases, even the ones that can kill us. If we lived in a germ-free world, we wouldn't even be alive for so long in the first place! (Competition between micro-organisms is what aids us in the first place)

      Man fuck this shit! What's the point!??!!? Everyone just dishes out general nonsense of things getting better for everyone....it's not...it's ALL IN YOUR HEAD....GOD FUCKING DAMN IT...this is why it isn't worth it saving humans in the first place! UGH!$!$

      No matter what you say, no matter what solutions come out of this, there's nothing you can do to stop germs and diseases from killing us all. It's only delaying the inevitable, and yet we are still in this illusion that there's still hope. THERE IS NO HOPE!!! Live in this illusion and enjoy it while you can.

      But noooooo, Link here is just saying bullshit, no one believes me...one day I will be recognized...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Linkzelda41 View Post
      No, I'm saying that another industry should be in charge of regulations without the outrageous costs to test them, especially if a professor can do it with a teacher's salary...

      We will never be close to eradicating HIV, at least not in this generation or even the next. The reason why it's so much of a challenge in the first place is because it does the opposite from the typical DNA-->RNA process, which means that it is prone to make mistakes, which means there can be more mutations. What may be the key to almost eradicating it maybe become useless once there is a mutation that can resist it. Until HIV (the components of what makes its composition) turns into a perfectionist, and by that I mean not making any mistakes to cause mutations, it's going to be a constant tackle in eradicating HIV.

      It isn't something you can just "cure" with a one quick fix miracle. Eventually, these "cures" will die out because they aren't enough to tackle the mutations. And these multiple fatal diseases are nothing compared to more that will become apparent in the future. The more you delay regulations because of extreme and outrageous price ranges, the more the virus is going to be harder to fix because it will continue to mutate, and unless you have something that can mutate along with it and keep up (Bacteriophages is the key here), seeing major diseases destroyed is idealism.

      As much as what the textbook and media gives you about finding all these "cures" and solutions, they are only temporary. Everyone is going to be happy until something happens and the disease fucks up the effectiveness. Small pox, sure, that's pretty much gone, but HIV is different.

      If you can find a way to stop the reverse process (you can only delay it for a while, but not completely because by then the strand is already in the genetic makeup, and once it's there...hope you can live long enough for it).

      And even there's a solution to destroy the cells, it's already embedded to the human cells that it would be rocket science to find a way compel your body to think it's not some other virus trying to kill the virus that it thinks is a part of it.

      And like I said, bacteriophages do not affect humans in any way. They are one of the prime examples of something that can mutate (medicine and vaccines cannot mutate, therefore it's perfect for bacteriophages to be used instead of these temporary cures these "chemists" are making.
      Yes but we have fast-tracked trials and review systems for that reason.
      It only takes 2 years or so for an updated drug/vaccines to be approved. Like flu strains, malaria drugs etc.
      Instead of 10 years for new ones.

      Afaik the only major hurdle to HIV vaccines is that the virus can hide in a hibernation type state and therefore go undetected by the immune system. Otherwise it could fairly easily be eradicated as well.

      And if we stop using anti-bacterial soaps in every bathroom, there's no real reason why viruses and bacteria would become more harmful/dangerous.

      Quote Originally Posted by Linkzelda41 View Post
      We are humans god damn it, we can't stop anything that is around us without knowing something else is growing more and more. We need germs and diseases, even the ones that can kill us. If we lived in a germ-free world, we wouldn't even be alive for so long in the first place! (Competition between micro-organisms is what aids us in the first place)

      Man fuck this shit! What's the point!??!!? Everyone just dishes out general nonsense of things getting better for everyone....it's not...it's ALL IN YOUR HEAD....GOD FUCKING DAMN IT...this is why it isn't worth it saving humans in the first place! UGH!$!$

      No matter what you say, no matter what solutions come out of this, there's nothing you can do to stop germs and diseases from killing us all. It's only delaying the inevitable, and yet we are still in this illusion that there's still hope. THERE IS NO HOPE!!! Live in this illusion and enjoy it while you can.

      But noooooo, Link here is just saying bullshit, no one believes me...one day I will be recognized...
      That ^ I definitely agree with. I have come to exactly the same conclusion.
      I just literally see no point in.... well, basically what you said.
      Yeah we'll save people for a while but we're just gonna keep making the same mistakes because we have no rational philosophy for the most part. Well, we do, but people aren't willing to accept it because they love their illusions too much.
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      Aw Link! I guess that was kind've my fault....
      Just see the beauty too and you'll do ok.
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      I think I'm becoming addicted to benzos. Or maybe I just still feel the need to be high 24/7 and my anti-anxiety pills are the only things I have. I hate this feeling.
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      Quote Originally Posted by greenhavoc View Post
      maybe meek wasn't the right word to use. i just didn't expect you to be so docile, is that word okay?
      Well, I am pretty shy in real life, at least in public.

      Lunch went over pretty well. Lot of expected awkward silence though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alyzarin View Post
      I think I'm becoming addicted to benzos. Or maybe I just still feel the need to be high 24/7 and my anti-anxiety pills are the only things I have. I hate this feeling.
      Hmmmm, benzos get annoying after a little while.
      I found I only got high off them (the benzo high is fucking amazing feeling hey?) for about a year. Then they really just calmed me down, didn't get high at all.

      I just lost the only 2 pills I had a few weeks ago lol

      It's definitely better to be off them though, after they stop giving you a proper high.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Hmmmm, benzos get annoying after a little while.
      I found I only got high off them (the benzo high is fucking amazing feeling hey?) for about a year. Then they really just calmed me down, didn't get high at all.

      I just lost the only 2 pills I had a few weeks ago lol

      It's definitely better to be off them though, after they stop giving you a proper high.
      They don't get me high at all, and they never have. :T At least, not anything stronger than like a nicotine buzz. I take them because I have panic attacks that can be so severe that I'll be getting heavy tremors and losing the ability to form words properly. There isn't a dose of benzos that gives me any effects between feeling tired but back to normal and blacking out. The only reason I'm feeling like I need them now is because I've had to use them enough that I have a more frequent background level of anxiety now, and I'm so desperate to get high that I'll accept "slightly more normal" as a decent buzz. Back before I had anxiety (before I did massive amounts of every other drug, alone and in combination) I didn't use them at all because they did literally nothing. I don't know why, they just don't provide any form of high whatsoever for me. But to be fair, I'm not really a big fan of being sedated either.
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      Cannot describe how I feel. When I try it comes out wrong, but I wish I could. I'm in simultaneous depression and elevation. I care about so much and nothing as well. I feel intense affection for everything, but I also want to jump off a bridge. It doesn't make much sense when I try to put it into words.
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      That sounds kind of like how I feel a lot of the time. I don't think there's really any easier way to put it than that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alyzarin View Post
      They don't get me high at all, and they never have. :T At least, not anything stronger than like a nicotine buzz. I take them because I have panic attacks that can be so severe that I'll be getting heavy tremors and losing the ability to form words properly. There isn't a dose of benzos that gives me any effects between feeling tired but back to normal and blacking out. The only reason I'm feeling like I need them now is because I've had to use them enough that I have a more frequent background level of anxiety now, and I'm so desperate to get high that I'll accept "slightly more normal" as a decent buzz. Back before I had anxiety (before I did massive amounts of every other drug, alone and in combination) I didn't use them at all because they did literally nothing. I don't know why, they just don't provide any form of high whatsoever for me. But to be fair, I'm not really a big fan of being sedated either.
      Well, I don't know whether it was exactly a high or just the fact that I went from incredibly anxious to completely calm within 10 minutes.

      Yeah it is well known that they do actually cause you to feel anxious when you come off them. You should taper off extremely slowly, I think Dr Heather Ashton has a very good method, there's one other one but I can't remember exactly who made and tested it.

      But you basically have to taper off like an 8th of a pill at a time, every few days.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DeeryTheDeer View Post
      Well, I am pretty shy in real life, at least in public.

      Lunch went over pretty well. Lot of expected awkward silence though.
      sometimes i laugh at myself during those awkward moments because i know when i'm finally back in my comfort zone, alone, i'll be full of witty shit to talk about. hurr
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      I've had a monstrous headache most of the day. It was so bad earlier that I went to sleep for 3 hours. I still have the headache but it's very dull and not that bothersome. Earlier, though, sheesh- the pain was at about an 8/10.
      My foot is still irritating the crap out of me. The discomfort isn't bad enough for me to see a Dr., it's just annoying in its consistency. Whenever I clench my toes I can only see the knuckles (? lol) of my first two toes. The others are hiding below swelling. The swelling doesn't seem severe except for across those toes. I can still move all of them. And I may be on the verge of chopping off my itchy finger. It's always red but I WONT see a Dr. for that. Last time I tried they tried convincing me it was a wart or an itchy callous. Ooooookkayyyyy. Um, no.

      The internet was down for several hours. That made going back to sleep very easy But I read The Metamorphosis before it went down. What a depressing story! My p-doc always recommends the strangest stuff for me to read or watch. But I like weird lol.

      I saw him earlier in the afternoon and ranted about my brother etc and he agrees that I should keep my brother out of my town but it's good to help however else I can. He explained again how memory works and how people can recall much different things about the same event but I........ ???
      It feels almost like an insult to consider such a thing. I respect that variations are inevitable but only slight ones. But completely different accounts?

      I get strangely weepy over this subject. P-doc asked why it matters and I answered "Truth."
      If I can't trust my memories.. ??? I guess, how do I know who I am and how I came to be who I am if I can't trust my memories?
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      The Metamorphosis was the most depressing, misanthropic story ever. It left me going, "wow... my family would never do that in a million years, even given the circumstances."

      I've also had a bad headache over the past two days, and today I got a really sore throat. Oh, and we got our grad photos taken today as well... Being in the state I was, I looked like shit. I saw my photos and they looked like shit. Being tired and sick is not good for getting photos taken. This sucks.

      ...I am SO glad this thread exists. I can just dump all my worries and complaints here and no one will judge me. ILY all. <3
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      I feel the same way Puffin
      Feel better soon.

      I just got off the phone with my youngest daughter. She's having the worst time ever. She walked away from criticism yesterday and they restrained her for "at least an hour and a half" and now her shoulder hurts. I have to talk to staff before I hang up to tell them if I have any questions or concerns and I enlightened the lady about my daughters shoulder. The joint is extremely unstable and she's now in pain from being held down for so long.... And tomorrow I get to call her case worker and explain it to her and ask wtf they're doing that they need to restrain her for so long for walking away from a conversation? And shortly, she'll be speaking to me on speaker phone again because she's a flight risk. They even took her shoe laces. I asked my daughter if they seriously thought she would hang herself with her laces and she said that's not it at all- it's easier to run with laces. But she is trying to take person responsibility which is a great change.

      *sigh*

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      I am trying waaaay too hard for my Sociohorticulture class typing key points in the book as I read a few required pages. It's because there's 4 random quizzes throughout the course, and tomorrow might be one of them...

      I'm using level 1,203 vocabularly on a lvl 1 subject. It's things like this that I wonder if I get anything done without going Nathaniel Hawthorne mode up in this shit....

      Example: wait nevermind, it's not worth it.


      fuck this shit man....I'm even doing my "Don LaFontaine" imitation just to prevent myself from getting my eyes bled.

      And my female neighbor was talking to her friend on how she uses "Wikipedia" for everything...what has the world come to?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zhaylin View Post
      I saw him earlier in the afternoon and ranted about my brother etc and he agrees that I should keep my brother out of my town but it's good to help however else I can. He explained again how memory works and how people can recall much different things about the same event but I........ ???
      It feels almost like an insult to consider such a thing. I respect that variations are inevitable but only slight ones. But completely different accounts?

      I get strangely weepy over this subject. P-doc asked why it matters and I answered "Truth."
      If I can't trust my memories.. ??? I guess, how do I know who I am and how I came to be who I am if I can't trust my memories?
      Deal with it. Memories are completely fallible. Surely you've realised this by now?
      You can recall something that never even happened, or you can distort the event so much that it barely even resembles the original event. Just watch eyewitness descriptions of people, they all give incredibly varying and inaccurate descriptions of what happened and the person who did it.

      This doesn't change who you are, thats just ridiculous, you simply have been doing something that you didn't know you were doing. Just like when you focus on your breathing, and you start to feel a little anxious about it, but you've been doing it the whole time effortlessly and it didn't bother you at all.

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      Is there some reason you felt the need to mention that your neighbor is blonde?
      Okay. Fixed.

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      Link Don't explode your brain

      *stomps foot* Well, well, I just cannot except that Tommo. (My p-doc used your examples- great mind think alike, I guess)
      There HAS to be some sort of consistency. Some sort of universal truth. Either something happens or it doesn't.
      Universal truth isn't quite the right phrase, because I live by the saying "There's your side of the story and his side and somewhere in the middle is the truth." As I said before, I can accept slight variations... but completely opposing accounts?
      Why have memory at all if it can't be trusted? For survival, sure, but what else?

      I am now certain I have extremely mild gout. It explains the swelling, the joint pain, the redness. But I don't eat like a "king". I do, however, live on Soda.
      The question now is: Am I suffering enough to give it up? I don't think so. I do think, however, I CAN drink a LOT more water. I will try that and REDUCE my soda intake and see if there's any improvement...
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