Thread: Rant and Rave, Cry and Complain

debrajane, your signature bit made me sad That's what I'm always a little worried about when I'm posting on a forum. Especially when I'm new to a forum and everybody is already friends and it's like taking a new job or something :'(

I never really notice a pattern with my dreams and libido. I do feel like I have actual sex dreams, either when I'm at a really highly-sexed point in my cycle, or when it's been a while I can completely understand that guy's quote above ^^. I also wonder though, maybe if you were really really repressed and you rarely indulged in anything, because you thought it was a sin, whether you might actually have even crazier dreams. Like I say, sometimes when it's been a while, I haven't had sex in a couple of months, I haven't pleasured myself etc. I might suddenly have a really crazy/really sexual dream. Like, you're repressing all these desires and they come bursting through in your dream? I don't know; I know very little about dreams.

Here is a mini rant for the thread: I've had the past few days off and I've mostly spent it being really really lazy. I'm really annoyed at myself. Especially as I've just found out that I will have to work a lot next week :'( Also, my inactivity has led to me feeling even more lonely. I was starting to feel better and more positive and enjoying everything I'm doing, but now I just feel like, I miss my friends and my family and they're getting on with their lives without me. One of my really good friends was supposed to come and see me this weekend as well and now she can't. I was well looking forward to seeing her and having fun and getting out, but she can't get a ticket.

Lula x

Yeah, I was gonna say ravage. You could say "relentlessly ravage" or something. Maybe a stronger word than relentless, but my vocabulary sucks dick.

I just think rape doesn't really encompass that feeling completely.

Originally Posted by lulapace

debrajane, your signature bit made me sad That's what I'm always a little worried about when I'm posting on a forum. Especially when I'm new to a forum and everybody is already friends and it's like taking a new job or something :'(

I never really notice a pattern with my dreams and libido. I do feel like I have actual sex dreams, either when I'm at a really highly-sexed point in my cycle, or when it's been a while I can completely understand that guy's quote above ^^. I also wonder though, maybe if you were really really repressed and you rarely indulged in anything, because you thought it was a sin, whether you might actually have even crazier dreams. Like I say, sometimes when it's been a while, I haven't had sex in a couple of months, I haven't pleasured myself etc. I might suddenly have a really crazy/really sexual dream. Like, you're repressing all these desires and they come bursting through in your dream? I don't know; I know very little about dreams.

Here is a mini rant for the thread: I've had the past few days off and I've mostly spent it being really really lazy. I'm really annoyed at myself. Especially as I've just found out that I will have to work a lot next week :'( Also, my inactivity has led to me feeling even more lonely. I was starting to feel better and more positive and enjoying everything I'm doing, but now I just feel like, I miss my friends and my family and they're getting on with their lives without me. One of my really good friends was supposed to come and see me this weekend as well and now she can't. I was well looking forward to seeing her and having fun and getting out, but she can't get a ticket.

Lula x

Hi lulapace

In chat, Xei told me that the reason no one replies to my threads is becaues when some one does I ignore them. Xei is right. I gotta break that bad habit.

I know the feeling, I'm more social on my days on. Today I didn't even leave the house until 5 and by then the coffee shop had emptied.

As far as dreams go, I have all the characteristics of reduced repression except aggressive interactions. I've had a couple war dreams but my dreams are mostly pretty peaceful. My non-lucid sex is always consensual and my lucid sex is more like fucking sex dolls than girls. For some reason when I'm lucid and I bend a girl over they turn lifeless. As much as I love sex, I would never consciously, nor unconsciously, practice any form of sexually assault. Fuck, the whole poem was about how even the possibility of creeping a girl out by showing any form of sexual interest makes me extremely uncomfortable.

I see your point about sexual repression causing more sex dreams. It makes sense, I can't personally find any correlation because I masturbate regularly and I've never gone to bed horny, and as a guy getting lots of sex tends to relieve the impulse. When I don't masturbate, sex dreams increase, but they're also not so uncommon by themselves.

And honestly, I don't consider myself sexually repressed at all. I currently live in one of the sexual repression capitals of the world (Utah) but I'm not originally from here and I was never raised to regard it as taboo and I've never shied away from talking about it. I believe nearly every guy deals with the same problem I attempted to describe, which is essentially a fear of rejection, and a fear of being perceived in a negative way, the moment sexual interest is expressed. The fear of looking like a creep if you hold your gaze on a girl for too long. The fear of frightening something simply for appreciating its beauty.

Anyways, I'm spending too much time explaining my use of the word rape, to the point where people will probably start to think the lady doth protest too much. But I'm also really interested in what some males think about it.

Eeep, sorry Original, I had been reading your previous posts about your poem, but then it was a while before I came back and saw debrajane's post with the quote. I didn't realise they were connected. When I made my post, I was literally just commenting on that quote I'm totally confused now, I hope nothing I said was mean.

I don't want to make any comments on your use of the word 'rape' either, because I feel that my own personal experiences will cloud any rational argument I could try and make.

The whole sexual repression thing is not a hard and fast thing (), I think. I think you're right in what you said about sex dreams increasing if you don't masturbate, but they're not uncommon anyway. And then as well, if you have a particularly vivid sex dream, you're probably gonna be more turned on when you wake up.

Lula x

Hahaha debrajane, you're doing a good job already

Lula x

To be honest I am interested in hard criticism. I'm not trying to defend my use of the word rape, I'm more interested in seeing, despite having completely explained why I used that particular word and no other, if anyone still finds it inexcusable, and why it's inexcusable. I'm not trying to argue, though, just figure out why the word would still be wrong, even in that context.

OP

Not [b]hard/b] criticism, but ...

After strong reveries of being raped, Climaxing, then enduring the little death. Dreams are super powered and I wake up feling fine.

Just before the post above dropped into my mailbox I was ravished in a revery (waking dream) while watching TV.

The hands did not touch below or my breasts. The dream hands touched my neck then the sides off my torso (30 seconds max). But it was a strong ... what's the word? ... "tellikinetic thingy"?

This sometimes happens after I post, as if one powerful dreamer read my post and sent a telipathic thingy. I hope a get a great dream tonight. It's 10 pm.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

To be honest I am interested in hard criticism. I'm not trying to defend my use of the word rape, I'm more interested in seeing, despite having completely explained why I used that particular word and no other, if anyone still finds it inexcusable, and why it's inexcusable. I'm not trying to argue, though, just figure out why the word would still be wrong, even in that context.

Hmm, OP, I'm should probably read your poem and reasons again. I'm trying to talk it over with myself, but not making much sense :p

Lula x

OP: If "rape" is the right word to describe that feeling to you, then I don't think it is inexcusable. For whatever reason, "ravage" has a connotation for me of, well, just fucking but with pleasure for both parties. Rape has the connotation of purely selfish desire. However, without knowing your reasons for choosing that word I think I'd be a little uptight too. If you're writing for yourself, then rape is great. But knowing that the audience probably won't get what you mean (and just assuming you care what the audience thinks), a different word would probably be better. On the receiving end too and my connotations of the word, rape is more about power than so much overwhelming desire that you just yank down your pants and screw someone. I've also known several people who have been raped or molested so it makes my blood boil.

I really do like what you said about the "fear of rejection...fear of frightening something simply for appreciating its beauty". That was beautiful, gotta say. But the connotation of rape doesn't really fit this, at least not for me.

Lulapace: Hey, I always feel like that when joining a forum too! I rejoined about two or three months ago, and I'm doing just fine People here are usually very friendly, though I can always pick out a few trolls. I just avoid them. It's also nice when people frequent the same threads as you, build relationships faster. You'll fit right in in no time!

Canis: See, the problem is that I don't think this is a purely subconscious simulator. I think it is more of my subc saying "Hey! Don't want to think about this stuff while you're awake? Let me dump it all on you while you're asleep!" Whenever I feel these things IWL I just shove them down and try not to think about it. And that's the thing. I know I am a brutal person, I know I lack a lot of sympathy/empathy for people, I know I can kill and totally wreck someone, I know part of me wants to sometimes. Knowing all of that and knowing that it is unacceptable and awful bothers me. I know that's not the right word for it, but I don't know how else to say it.

I'm a really physical person. Basically if it feels good it is good. That's caused me trouble before, but it's still pretty much true. Then I'm a thinking person, whatever is logically correct is correct. The smallest piece is the emotions. I usually just try to disregard those. That pretty much just leaves me being a person driven by animalistic desires tempered by rationality. That's not the way that people are supposed to behave. I guess that's the root of all of this cognitive dissonance. When I'm sorry for something, I'm hardly ever sorry for doing the action, I'm sorry that I got whatever consequences I did. And there's another thing. There are a few times in my life where I'm still thinking "Wow. I really wish I could have repeatedly bashed that person's head into a wall." Not to kill them, mind. Just to beat them up. And whenever I wanted to do something like that it goes like this:

Start: Is this problem worth getting upset over? Y/N
Y > Is this problem pretty much entirely this person's fault?
Y > Will I regret beating this person up?
N > Will I get in more trouble than beating up this person is worth?
N > Beat up person.

Most everything stops at number one, because some things are just life. Most everything else stops at number two, because I've usually had a hand in the way things turned out. Number three kind of gets skipped because if I would regret it then I wouldn't be considering all this (number three is personal psychological pain resulting from my actions). So far everything has stopped at number four because I don't want to get in trouble.

Now that's great and all, but then I've got all this rage and pent up desires and even if I don't occasionally I just need to beat something up. I don't know why. I wish I did. Everything is going great and I just want to hurt something.

I think my dreams are acting out in the way I wish I did everything. I don't feel remorse in my dreams except on the very rare occasion that I hurt someone defenseless or if I hurt someone in an unsporting way (like shooting them in the back. That's not fair at all.) I guess then the question is if I just like the fighting part or if I actually like the hurting part. (I know I'm a bit sadistic, but I think I have more fun fighting, at least in my dreams.) Violence being the norm in my dreams, the fact that I didn't use violence in my dream from yesterday is stunning and really sticks out. I was upset and frustrated about the whole thing, then I want to just get away from it all and this old lady with papery hands follows me to the bathroom and can't walk another two feet to get to the next stall and I let her have the one I was already halfway in. I didn't beat her up, even though I was super annoyed. I didn't tell her to go screw herself or any of the other stuff I was thinking, I didn't do anything but let her have it.

The question there is why? Was it because the setting was church? Was it because I thought it was real? Was it because of all of the repression I feel the need to have at church? What exactly caused me to behave like I normally do and not the way I wanted to?

I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression here though. Yeah I'm a bit sadistic and sometimes I just want to let this whole "animal nature" thing take over and run its course, but I probably won't ever hurt anyone, and I'd never hurt someone innocent (or mostly innocent, cause who the hell is totally innocent?). I'm just very protective of myself and the people I care about, and I'd do anything for them. However knowing all of this does not change my desires. It just puts limits on them (so I'm not going to be one of those awful people that goes shooting tons of innocents, but I would be one of those people who wants to/does (if the situation calls for it) kill one of those shooter people.

Right. Finally done. I feel like I keep repeating the same stuff, but I'm just trying to clarify. If anyone actually reads all this, cookie for you

Originally Posted by Original Poster

To be honest I am interested in hard criticism. I'm not trying to defend my use of the word rape, I'm more interested in seeing, despite having completely explained why I used that particular word and no other, if anyone still finds it inexcusable, and why it's inexcusable. I'm not trying to argue, though, just figure out why the word would still be wrong, even in that context.

It's inexcusable because if you're doing it at an area within a University, there's a chance that the type of people who just love making a big news out of anything they can find, they'll probably say that the University, or the area where you're trying to give the declaration to condones the word "Rape," then it'll just go into a downward spiral over questioning of the University's ethics and reputation. So even though you have your own unique way of trying to associate rape with carnal impatience, I doubt everyone is going to be as subjective and open-minded towards your perception of it, and since the University/area of speech has more authority than you, it's just one of those things where you know the system itself is flawed, but there's really nothing you can do about it. It only validates that even though you think your convictions of "rape" being a word that can be utilized as a form of trying to be mature and engaging, there's just going to be those people who think this, and those who think something else.

And like Artemis stated, I also believe that rape is a form of selfish desire to some extent. Even though there might be people with rape fantasies, or even people who are so extreme into submission that they would purposefully expose themselves to people who could rape or even grope them (which is really just a pseudo-rape for the victim in this case), you probably won't find any in your area. But then again, with Utah, who knows what lies in the psyche of those slightly more sexually repressed individuals.

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Originally Posted by Lulapace

]Especially when I'm new to a forum and everybody is already friends and it's like taking a new job or something :'(

I don't think you should take it so seriously if you're a newcomer. I mean, sure, DV might be a nice little social haven for a few people, but it's not like you really need to worry about validating yourself in a specifc way when you do come to this forum. Dreaming obviously is what I believe makes DV unique because it's just one factor that can branch off into promoting an open-minded community(but then you'll realize that's not the case all the time as there's people that still cherry-pick concepts of lucid dreaming and just love to mock anyone that goes beyond the concept of it just being the confines of your mind, and yet still accept lucid dreaming as normal...and it's amazing how people just forget about how that gathering a group of people to be your YES men doesn't really disprove or prove anything).(when in reality, they just don't take the time to attempt to understand the concepts they're rejecting)

But generally, I think when a person starts getting into dreaming overall, their character as a whole will tend to be less aggressive in social aspects, which makes the forum itself a nice escape from reality, at least for a few minutes. And even with making new friends, you'll find that a lot of people will tend to be insecure and decide that trolling is their only way to make themselves feel better, but like few have said already, they won't really matter to you.

And it's not really hard to make some friends here, it'll probably take a few weeks or months, but it's really easy, and you won't feel as awkward.

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Rant:

I think my whole perception of anything now is just a blank canvas simply because I'm trying so hard to just dissociate myself from the lifestyle of being "hyperacute," "agile," and all other forms of being attentive and adaptive to most situations. I've realized my behavior tends to just experiment with a particular feeling, and realizing that if certain thoughts I allow into my mind is convincing enough, I could just go inside the train of thought, stay in as long as I want, come back out of it, and the whole perception is blank again....in short, it's just apophenia, like literally, it's not even funny. It seems that processing anything from this reality is going by too quickly, either because I'm now splitting between meditation and trying to be practical and not let it take TOO much of my time.

I also notice that I still have personal attachments towards some people, even though they're completely gone now or just decided to shift to another region where people will eventually forget them. I don't know why I want to stick with these attachments I have towards them, especially if meeting them was just for a few months. And it's not just about having a new friend, it's just finding people who had potential to really relate to me, people who aren't as brainwashed with how a person is supposed to live...it kind of makes me a bit worried that there are people who actually can make something for themselves, but then just go down the shitter completely because they couldn't handle the situations given to them.

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Another thing that bothers me is people's ideologies of trying to discover themselves by completely disregarding this reality, as if this reality alone isn't sufficient enough to see who they are, or potentially can be. I understand people would like to go into their minds instead of using this reality as a learning tool to teach themselves, to acknowledge their behaviors, because I do it a lot, but it's not like it's my only way to learn about myself. I just can't fathom how having this temporary escape from reality to try and be yourself is your practical way of validating the endeavor in the first place. Maybe it seems weird to me because I'm already used to the solitude thing and naturally picked up on who I really am, so I guess in terms of people trying to discover themselves, it's mostly because they're so attached to the social aspects and just want to let go.

But even if that's the case, it's not as if I was completely antisocial in the past. I was social to others, a lot, but I never really saw the social aspect as devaluing any endeavor in "discovering myself." That aspect of inner self vs. self towards others approach can easily be broken down and interchanged with ease. I don't see complete disregarding of reality as something of efficacy towards understanding yourself. It seems to me that people don't really realize that these same people they interact with that they're now trying to escape from temporarily to "find themselves" are in fact the best sources of judgement and rational for discovering themselves. Obviously the people we meet on a daily basis is a reflection of our psyche, maybe not as a whole, but at least in fragments. The answers are right in front of you, and if you can't even acknowledge that, how can you really "find yourself"?

It seems to be that if a person disregards analyzing their behavior towards others as merit in getting their feet into the waters of who they really are, they're only going to have an ego-saturated simulation when they're all by themselves. In my opinion, if one really wants to go through self-discovery, seek balance, shift into a new mentality, schemata, whatever, you'd want to boil down the preconceptions and convictions you have in this reality, so that by acknowledging your presence in it will allow you to dissocate yourself from your ego.

And I feel when you have no source that does automated rationale for you, when it comes to your ability to think for yourself for once, that is when you can have "self-discovery" without it being ego-saturated and possibility skewing things to where you're just denying yourself. It's one thing to try and be a reasonable person in this reality, but it's a completely different thing when you try to be "pure" or "ego-proof," but still disregard the mental baggages of this reality instead of acknowledging them and letting go of them one by one. It's just going to augment false results, which means you are more likely to make worse attachments to this life, and you're back to square one: trying to interchange your desire for inner self and still interchanging it with the realization that this reality itself can always be a learning tool and your way to understand what constrains you from actually having genuine paradigm shift.

Maybe I'm just doing it on purpose to create controversy so I'll get famous faster

Originally Posted by Original Poster

Maybe I'm just doing it on purpose to create controversy so I'll get famous faster

Well, if you're wanting to get famous by purposefully creating controversy, and you know the whole endeavor would just make it inexcusable based on the authority from the area of the University, you should go for something practical and accepted, so more people can relate to you, and make you "famous," in what they would deem "a scholarly individual."

Unless you want to get acknowledged in a negative way (because again, people won't be as subjective or speculative as you can be based on their own perceptions), then by all means, start using some euphemisms for being enticed by someone sexually. I think it's just more practical to use the human tongue of persuasion for more positive outcomes rather than ones that might make others have a bad impression on other things you could talk about.

Originally Posted by NewArtemis

Canis: See, the problem is that I don't think this is a purely subconscious simulator. I think it is more of my subc saying "Hey! Don't want to think about this stuff while you're awake? Let me dump it all on you while you're asleep!" Whenever I feel these things IWL I just shove them down and try not to think about it.

Thanks for helping me understand. I want to offer a few thoughts, so just take them for what they're worth (which is somewhere between "jack squat" and "much less than your own introspection.")

As you know, I'm like you in that I have a lot of "Vulcan" in me. I view emotion vs. reason as a completely one-sided match-up. When dealing with wrath or some other runaway emotional freight train, I like to stop cold and just become aware of what I'm feeling. Treat it like an illusion that I've created for myself. Easier said than done, but when it works, it's like giving your internal Mr. Spock permission to take control of everything. (It's a great deal like becoming lucid.)

Then allow whatever emotion, impulse, or revenge fantasy you're experiencing to pass right through you. Don't fight it, but simply acknowledge it and then set it gently aside. Be grateful that you have the will and capacity to protect yourself and your loved ones. (And be grateful that your ancestor Grok had enough self-respect to club that saber-toothed tiger rather than wait to get eaten.) But everything belongs in its own time and place, and that moment probably ain't now. The reaction is like a car alarm that goes off because a basketball hit your window. The car alarm isn't "bad" -- just inappropriate for the context.

Your rational mind, your dominant mind knows all of this. Let it bring you back to the moment. There's a meditation article on a similar theme that I really enjoyed: On Not Harboring Thoughts

Originally Posted by NewArtemis

I'm just very protective of myself and the people I care about, and I'd do anything for them... I would be one of those people who wants to/does (if the situation calls for it) kill one of those shooter people.

This is reading more like a list of virtues. Violence is a terrible thing, and only entertaining in TV and video games. But the willingness to protect yourself and those you care about is an expression of personal dignity.

Just be sure not to overlook the virtues of running away.

Originally Posted by NewArtemis

If anyone actually reads all this, cookie for you

Appreciate it! (I went with chocolate-covered Oreo.)

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Well, if you're wanting to get famous by purposefully creating controversy, and you know the whole endeavor would just make it inexcusable based on the authority from the area of the University, you should go for something practical and accepted, so more people can relate to you, and make you "famous," in what they would deem "a scholarly individual."

Unless you want to get acknowledged in a negative way (because again, people won't be as subjective or speculative as you can be based on their own perceptions), then by all means, start using some euphemisms for being enticed by someone sexually. I think it's just more practical to use the human tongue of persuasion for more positive outcomes rather than ones that might make others have a bad impression on other things you could talk about.

That sounds boring, though.

I am amazed at all the deep thinkers here. Y'all are the best

As for the word rape: Using the word with an audience is very tricky. People like to be entertained. They don't want to think deeply about the meaning behind things (which, as a weird aside, is why Jesus himself taught using stories and sayings). Scholarly people and philosophers will analyze the context to get to the likely truth behind the usage, but by and large, people just don't care. Did you entertain them?
So you'll have those who think: "God, what a sicko. I hope I never bump into him in a dark alley." and "Dude, that guy was so intense!" and "His usage was really about carnal impatience and was a perfect choice."
Just know your audience and get out of it what you will.
Ravage is an almost perfect word. But when I'm in the mood you describe, I think of "rut" and "mount" which are purely animalistic but hard to poetically portray (hehe, I was actually going to type poetrically )

NewArtemis and Canis... I shall forever now envision you both as wise warriors

Link, I don't know why but it's very hard for me to understand both you and Aly sometimes. I don't comment on your posts nearly as much as I want to because I feel like an utterly lost idiot lost for words. You guys are too smart or too deep or something Or maybe games have turned my brain completely into mush and I'm just out of practice when it comes to comprehension.

Lula, Welcome to DV. Sorry if you've been here a while and we're just now meeting (or I'm just now remembering )

everyone

My biggest rant is that laziness is preventing bowel movements. As if y'all want to know that With the pipes frozen, I told my son "Who ever poos has to fill the water bucket to flush the toilet" which means walking across the frozen, snowy yard to hubby's house to use his outside faucet. Forget that. It's too cold. I'm not going out there, are you crazy lol
If I bought him a pack of cigarettes, he said he would be permanent water boy, but I'd rather have cigarettes myself. I've cut back greatly this week but I'm still not ready to give them up completely.

Another rant is that my dog has a bladder or kidney infection. She's had it for a couple of weeks at least. She keeps peeing blood but I haven't the money to take her to a vet. When she goes through an abundance of water and I let her outside every couple of hours, it seems to get better. But if I'm sleeping, and she runs out of water, she holds in her pee so long which seems to make everything worse.
I hope she can get better on her own.
But when she dies, I will never get another animal. With my daughters gone, it will be an easy thing. They always brought home animals who were pound bound and the softy in me couldn't let that happen. But death would probably be better seeing how I can't afford vets.

Oh and who was it that complained about dry eyes? I sympathize!!! My eyes are killing me today. SO is my nose. My room is always dry, but today must be breaking records. I feel like I'm in Colorado again (the driest place I've ever been to. Arizona wasn't even as bad as Estes Park lol)

Well I'd hate to sound sexist but I don't think women have the fear of creeping men out by showing sexual interest in them. I'm not saying it's easy for them to face rejection, I'm just saying coming off creepy is not their fear.

Sorry your pipes froze. The water main broke near my friends house and he had to hook a neighbor's hose up to shower. Also I hope yur dog gets better.

Another day of trying not to kill and be killed on the roads... Plus my horn sounds so wimpy I don't think people can hear it

Anti-Rant: The dude who tried to turn INTO me finally decided to stop and I was able to maneuver around him.

Maybe I should just stay off DV during manic cycles. But trolling DV is one of the best medicines.

^^ Lol that explains so much!

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

Link, I don't know why but it's very hard for me to understand both you and Aly sometimes. I don't comment on your posts nearly as much as I want to because I feel like an utterly lost idiot lost for words. You guys are too smart or too deep or something Or maybe games have turned my brain completely into mush and I'm just out of practice when it comes to comprehension.

Link has a tendency to vaguely refer to specific events. Which I think can make it difficult to get an idea of what he's talking about.
You sort of have to read the first couple of paragraphs as a whole, and then you can sort of tell what he's talking about.
Then he usually expands on that further to make some sort of generalised complaint about the way people act.

(This isn't an insult or anything, nothing wrong with writing that way, it's just sometimes difficult to grasp at first when you're not expecting it).

Originally Posted by SpaceCowboyDave

Another day of trying not to kill and be killed on the roads... Plus my horn sounds so wimpy I don't think people can hear it

Anti-Rant: The dude who tried to turn INTO me finally decided to stop and I was able to maneuver around him.

Should try a motorbike horn. F'in useless lol Just have to hope they have their windows down.

Dear OP

As a result of my quoting about sex and violence in dreams and waking ESP (see post #12676 top of page #508 of this thread) I ended up reading for hours from that same book Our Dreaming Mind by Robert L. Van De Castle Ph.D.

I Just gotta open some threads about the amazing "Sweeping Exploration of the Role that Dreams have played in Politics, art, Religion, and Psychology, from Ancient civilations to the Present day."

I want to gather together everything rvdc wrote about the Cuna Indians for starters, but, I also want to do the same with every thing he wrote about Mandala's and dreams.

For now you can look at a thread dedicated to this 85 year old Dream Master here:

http://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dre...-thoughts.html

Oh, and Xei

Notice, if you please, no one hardly replied to this 91 post thread.

Only these folks replied

ShadowOfWind
The Cusp
Phion

but at the moment it has had 1,877 views. Thats 20+ views per post.

Bugger!!! I'm having to use the damn phone app and I can't put that Ppphtttt!!! emicon in at You Xei.

Pppphttttsss (!!!)

Originally Posted by Original Poster

Maybe I should just stay off DV during manic cycles. But trolling DV is one of the best medicines.

>Nobody on ED to discuss with
>Hatches elaborate scheme on RRCC thread
>Requests purpose for why rape is inexcusable
>waits for responses
>sees first victim
>enjoys as she devotes time to explain
>slowly chuckles
>sustains seriousness for acknowledging hard criticism
>waits for more responses
>cues in hints on possible trolling, but knows people will be sympathetic
>more responses
>trolled successfully
>stress coping mechanism/best medicine achieved
>is famous
>gathers wealth
>obtains sexually repressed Utah females
>changes concept of Mormonism
>rules world
>rules University
>says rape in front of audience
>rules galaxy

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I knew it all along.

Originally Posted by Debrajane

The---- touch below or my br-----eam hands touched my ne--- sides off my torso (30 seconds max). But it was a strong ... what's the word? ... "tellikine----
This someti----read my post and sent a telipathic thingy. I hope a get a great dr------night. It's 10 pm

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Notice how I placed Emma Watson to initiate a subconscious reflex for Original Poster

Rape is a purely non-consensual, brutish act, which tends to be a lot about power and control as well as lust. Obviously some people have rape fantasies, but I wonder (and I admit I don't know much about it) if they would truly enjoy those fantasies manifested in their daily lives. I have lots of fantasies, but I'm not sure I would like to act all of them out. I personally dislike it when people trivialise the word 'rape', for example when referring to somebody 'raping' you on facebook. As a victim, I'm aware that I can't talk too 'objectively' about it, but I believe that rape and sexual abuse are huge problems in our society and shouldn't be treated lightly (I'm not saying that's what you're doing btw). Many people will have strong, gut reactions to hearing a word like rape used to express sexual desire and that's something that you can't get around. I think that rape is something that needs to be treated entirely seriously. I feel like if you're trying to make a really serious point about rape, then fair enough, but we see it trivialised and not taken seriously by too many people. But then, of course, poetry is highly subjective. And damn it, I can't find your poem now :/ And I completely forgot what I wanted to say. I'll be back.

Also, I'm pretty sure I've creeped guys out :p Especially the timid ones xD

Thanks LinkZelda - I'm making too big a deal out if it, I know. I'm new to the forum scene
Hi Zhaylin! I really only just got here.

Am I allowed to anti-rant?
After spending my week off feeling a little down, because I thought I'd have to work ten days straight, from 8:30 to 8:30 (after having a blissful week off), my boss brought us our schedules this morning and it's well easy-going. Also, I love my housemate Our boss said we should alternate the days we work, so she works one, I work the next. But then she said she was only expecting 7 days of work (instead of 10), so she's arranged to go see friends in a different province. So I said I'd work the last 5 and she could work the first. So, I get another few days off. AND, my boss is giving me 5 days off in March to see our mum

Little bit of a cry to counter all that: It's so damn cold in our apartment, I can barely sleep. The headmaster got us heaters, but I got toasted skin on my arm, so I'm wary about using it too much. Also, I feel like my mind is fading; it's so hard to keep up with politics and I have hardly any time when I'm working to read and watch good films, etc. and then this week I've had off, I haven't done much of that anyway And I know this is the internet, but I'm seeing so much mindless bigotry, and it makes me angry.

Lula x