Thread: Using supplements ONLY to get started, is it possible?

@Mastermind, You recommend starting with dream recall practices first before lucidity.. But aren't those a bit intertwined. How do you actually improve on dream recal? Overall I agree with ur points in this thread.

@ Cleardreamer
Ur sleeping pattern sounds perfect for supplements to have a good effect for you. You just kind of feel into it when and if you going to use them. Who knows, you might use a good lucid dream to inspire ur creative endaevours. To be honest, you can't use them regularly. Not Choline+Galantamine etc. those are weekly based

Dream herbs like Synaptolepis kirkii and Silene capensis. actually work best when taken regularly.. Yet, I have not seen the results in myself. I think they require you to have decent dream recall abilities to start with.. These are taken daily for about a month. It's expensive but I think it's the best method as a 'start-up' lucid dreaming career. In combination with other methods.


The Choline+Galantamine method is more of a one time-trick thing. It's effect probably lessen when used regularly. Alpha-GPC/CDP and/or that analogue of Galantamine that they now sell in europe (heared it's good) what's it called though, someone please chime on this one.. It works when you use it. And it works very well. It might work as a startup but I'm not confident. However, as a one-time get lucidity thing. Say you have a few hours of sleeping. You know ur gonna sleep for 4 hours. Galantamine is the perfect lucidity boost. You will recall more dreams and lucidity is almost garuanteed, unless you are completely blacked out. Then you are too tired. You might be too stimulated but since you know ur sleeping patterns you will know in advance.

It's not very good if you need rest though, galantamine seems more-so to just enhance wakefullness and not increase sleep. Those dream herbs seem to have a deeper and more thorough effect on ur entire sleeping patterns.