Thread: Ultimate Summer Challenge!

The first episode of naruto talks a lot about cloning. They are training to do bunshins (clones) and Naruto sucks at it. First episode he learns how to do a shadow clone.

A couple rules about it:
Imagine the chackra (energy, ki) going through you and creating another you.
Take two fingers from each hand and put them like a cross in front of you.
Yell "kage bunshin no jutsu!" (
Shadow clone techniques)
When having two desperate bodies they act just like you would have wanted them too because they are a perfect split conscious of you.
When you unsummon them whatever they saw felt or experienced is now in your memory as well. So you technically control two at once, but not quite the same feeling.

Naga to controls six bodies at once though. And they share his mind. Might be more to what you are looking for.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Haha, those are some pretty crazy ideas. Most of those I hadn't thought of before, but believe me, I already have a million Fairy Tail goals lol. That would be cool, and so would the robot and the taking control, but for this the clone thing would really be like what I'm getting at. But I'll certainly log the others away for future reference as well!

Yeah sometimes I get these moments of inspiration where ideas flow into my conscious brain

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

It's actually been one of my fantasies to become a hive mind ever since like middle or early high school
Splitting would probably be the easiest route if I actually had any idea how to go about it though. I can't imagine what I would possibly do to bring that situation about.

Well if you happen to stumble upon a medieval torture chamber you might pull it off... Other than that splitting seems to be a roundabout method
Yeah that would be cool, to fly around in the jungle and attack animals and stuff but I probably have to get a little better before trying that

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

Naga to controls six bodies at once though. And they share his mind. Might be more to what you are looking for.

Yeah Nagato!! How did I not think of him, it's briliant. You just stick some rods in your head (or body, whatever works out best for you) and stick some in someone else and voila! You got it. I doubt you really need to follow the rules of the anime, although it helps, if you get the general idea used in the anime I think you could control two at the same time with Kage Bunshin in a lucid dream. If I would take a nap right now, get lucid and feel like controlling mutliple bodies I'd just make a weird hand movement and yell KAGE BUNSHIN NO JITSU!! When I really think about it it actually seems harder than it did yesterday, it is weird to visualise


You pervs are probably thinking about this kind of rod-sticking --->
But I actually meant the thick black rods Nagato sticks in his dead bodies

Hey BrandonBoss, I would like to change a challenge #8
The new challenge:
Play the violin with a tone more beautiful and a phrasing more elegant than I could ever have imagined
And the punishment will be the original challenge for 1 month, it's so easy yet boring that it's really more a punishment than a challenge

I can't edit my original post yet (I have to wait 1440 minutes) so I will do that later on to prevent confusion

Actually playing the violin is the first thing I can remember that really got me into lucid dreaming (except for sex )

I am going to do this I just have to brainstorm some challenges. Be back soon!!

Ok, so we have about 14 weeks. I think I really need to work on my discipline so here I go :

- seriously WBTB 42 times
- notice sleeping position upon wake 20 times
- recognize this is a dream when having dream with sexual contents at least once ( I have those like once a month, but menthol might change this?)
- to learn to visualize, do visualization exercises 30 times
- have two WILDs (since I am DILD-er)


Punishment:
- do dumbbell exercises 5 times a week for a month
- cook a well balanced dinner for an entire week (no take away!)
- no masturbation for a month
- stomach exercises for a week (4x20 legs lifts per day)
- will spend 3 days in a roll meditating for 3 hrs per day and will not private dream journal if I fail the WILD challenge

I can link each punishment for individually failing a challenge task, right?

I am not sure I will be able to keep up with the 7-8 hrs a day sleep every day though, (travelling, family, etc.). Should I set a punishment for that or just be flexible about it?

Originally Posted by NyxCC

Ok, so we have about 14 weeks. I think I really need to work on my discipline so here I go :

- seriously WBTB 42 times
- notice sleeping position upon wake 20 times
- recognize this is a dream when having dream with sexual contents at least once ( I have those like once a month, but menthol might change this?)
- to learn to visualize, do visualization exercises 30 times
- have two WILDs (since I am DILD-er)


Punishment:
- do dumbbell exercises 5 times a week for a month
- cook a well balanced dinner for an entire week (no take away!)
- no masturbation for a month
- stomach exercises for a week (4x20 legs lifts per day)
- will spend 3 days in a roll meditating for 3 hrs per day and will not private dream journal if I fail the WILD challenge

I can link each punishment for individually failing a challenge task, right?

I am not sure I will be able to keep up with the 7-8 hrs a day sleep every day though, (travelling, family, etc.). Should I set a punishment for that or just be flexible about it?

I personally would recommend trying to keep to the program as much as possible, but no punishment is put in place (unless you put one). The more days consecutive you sleep 7-8 hours the higher the chances for an LD (In my opinion). If you have a vacation, tragedy, parties, major events, or anything like that, you don't want to be some crazy person that is like "I know we are all having a great time on our vacation, but I need to go LD" This is the reason that I put 15 days as the exception, because then if you like partying on Friday or something similar you can do that, and one week you can do it twice. I don't go out drinking or really have many unmarried friends, so I don't stay out late ever. If you need more days give it to yourself. Life > LDs, but remember that LDs can enhance life if you want them to.

Yeah, you can link a punishment if you wish or have all of them if you fail. All up to you. If you don't say anything, then I will assume they are linked, which will change how things appear later on. There are a few things that I will have on this that you guys don't know about yet that will be optional, but should enhance the Summer challenge.

Originally Posted by Ginsan

Hey BrandonBoss, I would like to change a challenge #8
The new challenge:
Play the violin with a tone more beautiful and a phrasing more elegant than I could ever have imagined
And the punishment will be the original challenge for 1 month, it's so easy yet boring that it's really more a punishment than a challenge

I can't edit my original post yet (I have to wait 1440 minutes) so I will do that later on to prevent confusion

Actually playing the violin is the first thing I can remember that really got me into lucid dreaming (except for sex )

OK, I edited it in my post, is that the correct punishments and tasks?

I personally would recommend trying to keep to the program as much as possible, but no punishment is put in place (unless you put one). The more days consecutive you sleep 7-8 hours the higher the chances for an LD (In my opinion). If you have a vacation, tragedy, parties, major events, or anything like that, you don't want to be some crazy person that is like "I know we are all having a great time on our vacation, but I need to go LD" This is the reason that I put 15 days as the exception, because then if you like partying on Friday or something similar you can do that, and one week you can do it twice. I don't go out drinking or really have many unmarried friends, so I don't stay out late ever. If you need more days give it to yourself. Life > LDs, but remember that LDs can enhance life if you want them to.

Yeah, you can link a punishment if you wish or have all of them if you fail. All up to you. If you don't say anything, then I will assume they are linked, which will change how things appear later on. There are a few things that I will have on this that you guys don't know about yet that will be optional, but should enhance the Summer challenge.

Ok, got it! Thanks for the reply. I will try to stick to the schedule whenever possible, I also find that a regular schedule helps to LD more often. Sometimes there are unavoidable disturbances so will use the 15-day allowance when necessary.

Well, in my case I prefer that each individual challenge is linked to a the punishment as per sequence. Things that we guys don't know about? Hope there won't be something too harsh like perform 50 RCs a day or take a cold shower for 10 mins. Hahaha! Oh, well, now that I have enrolled, will have to finish this up. If not heavily lucid, I will probably end up with an improved body and mind, I hope.

Originally Posted by NyxCC

Ok, got it! Thanks for the reply. I will try to stick to the schedule whenever possible, I also find that a regular schedule helps to LD more often. Sometimes there are unavoidable disturbances so will use the 15-day allowance when necessary.

Well, in my case I prefer that each individual challenge is linked to a the punishment as per sequence. Things that we guys don't know about? Hope there won't be something too harsh like perform 50 RCs a day or take a cold shower for 10 mins. Hahaha! Oh, well, now that I have enrolled, will have to finish this up. If not heavily lucid, I will probably end up with an improved body and mind, I hope.

It is actually a close replica of my last summer when I started LDing. I didn't get many LDs until after the summer because I hadn't found DV yet, but I got my recall up and I was a lot more aware of life just from sleeping so much. improved mind a lot!

Nah, they will be fun, not anti-fun. 50 RCs a day is easy though! Gotta keep them up all the time. My RCs are in the mind though, so it doesn't even take away from what I am ever doing. Everything will be optional as well, don't want to be evil to everyone.

Here are mine-
-Go sun-diving
-Walk on clouds
-Slay a dragon
-Turn into Spiderman and swing around a city
-Have sex without waking up
-Go horseback riding
-Go camping with a few friends.
If I can't meet my goals, I don't think that I'll punish myself too much.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

OK, I edited it in my post, is that the correct punishments and tasks?

Almost, punishment #8 should be fall asleep within 30 minutes of lying in bed for 1 month

Originally Posted by Ginsan

Almost, punishment #8 should be fall asleep within 30 minutes of lying in bed for 1 month

Ah.... Gotcha!

This sounds like fun!
I don't have any challenges on mind right now though, so I'll post another comment (along with their punishments, of course) when I do. What I do know is that I'll have some harsh punishments as an incentive, such as: listen to Justin Bieber's song 'baby' between my lectures for a month, or -God forbid- no video games for a whole week. (I do nothing but play video games. This is as harsh as a punishment can get.)

What I do know is that I'll have some harsh punishments as an incentive, such as: listen to Justin Bieber's song 'baby' between my lectures for a month, or -God forbid- no video games for a whole week. (I do nothing but play video games. This is as harsh as a punishment can get.)

That's the spirit! It's doubtful that people will work hard to achieve their goals unless they really believe they will take the punishments, or that their punishments are easy to stand. The goal is to choose some punishment that you REALLY want to avoid (ahaha, I so don't want to be one week without looking at anything related with psychology xD)

I'll give it my best shot!

Goals:

• Have 15+ Lucid Dreams
• Fly at supersonic speeds
• Summon a monster
• Chain a lucid using DEILD
• Recall 5 dreams in one night

Punishments:

• Have cold showers for a week
• No reddit for a week
• No social networking for a week
• Turn off my computer 1 hour before bed for a week
• No DV Chat for 3 days

Let's see how this works out

Summer challenges

The basic idea is that I want to replace MILD with DEILD as my staple technique over the holiday in preparation for having a roommate at uni next year (making other techs difficult to perform really pissing him off with middle of the night awakenings)
1. Recall 2 dreams each night
2. WBTB 3-4 nights of the week
3. Increase weekly LD rate by 1 each week
4. Aware for 5 micro-awakenings from sleep cycles a week
5. Awaken from a dream without moving 5 times a week (after no. 4 has been completed)


Punishments (all for a week)
1. No spotify
2. No listening to vinyl
3. No listening to mount eerie/microphones (current musical obsession)
4. No listening to shoegaze/dream pop
5. No listening to psychedelic/prog

Thank you all for wanting to be a part of this magnificent Summer event! It isn't too far off! I am really excited. It would be good to get those sleeping schedules planned now so that you can get all the sleep you need.

Some people have extra time in the Summer to do awesome things, so I would recommend checking out some anime for encouragement and ideas on how to finish some of your tasks. Like we were talking about earlier a lot of anime/manga have powers that are very similar to LDing powers and all. If you are not an anime watcher or a manga reader, I would suggest you start, since it enhances LDing for a lot of us.

Feel free to use this thread as a place to talk about your tasks, ask questions from people on how to finish the tasks, or anything related to the challenge, the task, or achieving lucidity. I want this to form bonds (anime talk) between us all this summer. We shall be Nakama!

I only have 3 weeks of paper rounds left, after that I can get my 8-9 hours of sleep every night! Let the lucid dreaming begin, Nakama

Yeah sorry to be that guy but... I need to drop out before it even starts. Got a lot of personal stuff to deal with this summer... I wasn't added to the OP so I guess I could've not said anything but onh well, I guess it was worth saying anyway. = w =;;

Originally Posted by Taffy

Yeah sorry to be that guy but... I need to drop out before it even starts. Got a lot of personal stuff to deal with this summer... I wasn't added to the OP so I guess I could've not said anything but onh well, I guess it was worth saying anyway. = w =;;

darn. I was hoping everyone would stick with it. Feel free to lower the goals if you wish to still be part of it. Feel free to join later if you feel up to it. Or just stick with the thread and with the conversations. Of course if you want to keep up the goals and punishments without the sleep schedule feel free to as well.

I'll wait till you reply to put anything in the OP, sorry I missed your post before. :/

Like we were talking about earlier a lot of anime/manga have powers that are very similar to LDing powers and all.

´

Even though I don't follow the anime, naruto is a great example of dream control. I shall be using some ideas from there for my dream control. Oh and of course, planning to make use of my recently made oniric technology!

Alrighty then, let's see what I can come up with!
WARNING: Contains spoiler for Mass Effect ending!


Challenges:

1. Have 15 lucids [0/15]
2. Complete a ToTM [ ]
3. Find Garrus, tell him Shepard is still alive and go find him together [ ]

Punishments:

1. No video games for two weeks. I'll probably commit suicide.
2. No internet (excluding DV and important stuff. DV may not exceed three hours a day.).
3. Wash all household dishes for a week.

I really doubt I'm going to survive if I fail both 1 and 2. Wish me luck, guys!

Dayum I should really get to my dream guide quickly, cold showers are not exactly sugar and rainbows...

BTW, I finally had some dream recall! Last night I had 2 or 3 cool lucids I knew the problems came from my lack of sleep

Some anime talk: BrandonBoss, how long have you been watching Fairy Tail and is it still going? I haven't watched it in a long time.. And does anyone here watch Gintama? If you don't, I recommend you do. It's the greatest achievement of mankind

Originally Posted by Ginsan

Dayum I should really get to my dream guide quickly, cold showers are not exactly sugar and rainbows...

BTW, I finally had some dream recall! Last night I had 2 or 3 cool lucids I knew the problems came from my lack of sleep

Some anime talk: BrandonBoss, how long have you been watching Fairy Tail and is it still going? I haven't watched it in a long time.. And does anyone here watch Gintama? If you don't, I recommend you do. It's the greatest achievement of mankind

I have been watching it since episode 1. Since I had been reading the manga I made my wife (gf at the time) watch it

The anime is currently on a little hiatus because Lucy's voice actor wants a raise and is being an annoying ... You know what about it. It has been coming out good every week till the last two months. Sooooo annoying. I should have yelled at her more in my dream last night. He was supposed to kill Regina from once upon a time because Regina had been teaching Henry how to take hearts out (not a spoiler... This was all in my dream) and he was erasing people's memories after, so they didn't know that they didn't have a heart anymore. But she couldn't go through with it like a coward. Very not Lucy like. there was more to the dream to. Haha
It was my longest dream last night.

I have heard from a few different sources that you need about 3 LDs a week to get a dream guide, because it makes it a more stable personality. Kind of like a consistent realm.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

I have heard from a few different sources that you need about 3 LDs a week to get a dream guide, because it makes it a more stable personality. Kind of like a consistent realm.

3 LD's a week, I can do that, if I can get 3 nights of good sleep a week.. But is 3 ld's a week really enough to get a dream guide? A dream guide seems like it's pretty far on the advanced list. Do you have one?