Thread: Gods Cannot Have Consciousness

Originally Posted by O'nus

I am going to take a clarifying approach to this reply. I think it is needed and you will agree.

The consciousness above you are speaking of; although it is within everything, it is not the type we are utilizing in everyday cognizance, right?

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Again, this is not the same type of consciousness that we are using right now, correct? It is often used as an example that the light houses's light is directed in a certain direction, but it still certainly observes all directions.

Not directly, but it still prevails and can be known as such. You cannot have cognizance if pure consciousness or subjectivity didn't exist. These fields are interacting in everything, regardless of what somebody thinks.

Originally Posted by O'nus

But that is only one type of consciousness and actually completely irrelevant to my original argument.

Why is it irrelevant? It's not "only one type of consciousness", it's pure consciousness. It's unwise to exclude it, so please tell me why it is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by O'nus

Let me simplify my argument just for you;

+ Consciousness is a function of time
- Consciousness is dependent on memories
- Memories are dependent on time
+ Any being that had to of created time, could not have consciousness

Now, you've gone a different path and completely tried re-defining what "consciousness" is instead of my propositions.

Perhaps I am justifying why these propositions are unfulfillable and limited. Is there anything greater than consciousness? You yourself may have even alluded to this, but I don't know where it's coming from.

Originally Posted by O'nus

You cannot simply define it as "everything" because I am including the creation of "everything" in the premise.

I am arguing that a conscious being that creates "everything" must also create that variables that function consciousness. A creator ought not to have any morality or consciousness, at least, as we know of it. It would be completely and utterly different.

It would just be existence. The very foundations in which you define subjectivity would have to have been created, as well as objectivity, by something. This something cannot be bound by subjective or objective terms, it is neither. As you said, it would be non-dual. Do not confused your affinity for non-duality to actually be subjectivity in disguise (I would say that you are inclined to do).

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How so is this "just existence?" Without consciousness?