Thread: Warning: Lucid dreams!

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If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your information?

Originally Posted by louie54

Welcome to DreamViews

If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your information?

Thank you! and hahaha, your going to laugh, but my mother, she has done this whole lucid dreaming, and took it to far, and had major spiritual problems because of it, she went into her dreams saying she welcomed anything because she thought she could handle it, and from there on she saw horrifying things in dreams, and waking state. She heard conversations while completely alone at home, and was followed by series of demons. We still to this day have problems with them in our homes, I've seen my mother at home(when she was gone) my brother walking down stairs twenty minutes after he left for work, I checked, his car was gone, and I've seen my sister run into the bathroom and disappear. So mainly you would say, by her personal experience. She dropped the whole lucid dreaming thing, and prayed and such, and hasn't had the same problems since. Though we still have issues with them, nothing like that.

Originally Posted by LdJake

Ah i think I might smell a jesus troll

I think we have someone misusing the reference of a troll, this was completely on topic, and you can do with the information I give as you like, I'm not feeding Jesus down peoples throats. I just share the information I come to learn.

Originally Posted by MCB

When Jesus comes into my lucid dreams to complain about my evilness, I usually summon the Ghost Busters and trap him, it never ceases to amuse me...

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Anyway, don't troll, or if you really are talking seriously, go to beyond dream or something...

Haha, look just because I referred to spirituality doesn't make this different than any other post, I was talking about lucid dreaming in the general lucid dreaming forum section. Don't get all snooty with me cuz you disagree with me, your entitled to your opinion, and I my own.

I personally don't believe in a god, or demons. But I do think lucid dreams can be spiritual for some people. Any information, or experience you get from lucid dreams, I believe you are just getting from yourself. Sometimes there are negative experiences in dreams. But these arise from your own fears and anxieties.

Originally Posted by Judge

Haha, look just because I referred to spirituality doesn't make this different than any other post, I was talking about lucid dreaming in the general lucid dreaming forum section. Don't get all snooty with me cuz you disagree with me, your entitled to your opinion, and I my own.

I didn't mean to be snooty, just trolly, anyway, I just thought that since you have discussed a lots on theory of dreaming (plans and religion and stuff), it woudn't fit this area of the forum, since we usually treat dreams in less in depth manner here. Like, we focus more on techniques and stuff to lucid dream and controll them. Not really carring if they are plans, squares, astral projection or anything! Just the good ol' " how do I do this? " or " tips on how to... "

Hm, one person isn't proof though, I keep getting into fights with evil spirits and mocking them all the time along with the christian god, I have yet to get a spiritual problem, though.

Yeah, don't expect to get favorable posts regarding this topic. I take the skeptic approach myself, but I'm not going to hurt you

Originally Posted by insideout

Sometimes there are negative experiences in dreams. But these arise from your own fears and anxieties.

I have to agree with this. Your brain is very powerful.

Btw, what about your lucid dream? I wouldn't mind hearing about that.

Originally Posted by insideout

I personally don't believe in a god, or demons. But I do think lucid dreams can be spiritual for some people. Any information, or experience you get from lucid dreams, I believe you are just getting from yourself. Sometimes there are negative experiences in dreams. But these arise from your own fears and anxieties.

Well yes, we all have different views on this all. To an extent, I even with my believes would say you are right. A mass majority is definitely from your own self. But from my view I see a spiritual side of it. I would like to thank you for your input, and not accusing me of trolling simply because you disagree with my beliefs.

Originally Posted by Walms

Hm, one person isn't proof though, I keep getting into fights with evil spirits and mocking them all the time along with the christian god, I have yet to get a spiritual problem, though.

I don't expect you to think so, we all have our own beliefs, and it being my mother, and me being, not christian, but a believer in god, I believe this to be true, and just wanted to put an input, (Don't take this the wrong way) Generally demons will not attack par say, an individual who is not close to God, and me(and my mom) being close to God, we are a threat to them, so they are more likely to actually bother us . (just my belief)

I don't think this thread is really worth a move to beyond dreaming. This is about lucid dreaming in general, but the OP is just religious. Beyond dreaming usually covers other topics like Shared Dreaming and the like.

Originally Posted by MCB

I didn't mean to be snooty, just trolly, anyway, I just thought that since you have discussed a lots on theory of dreaming (plans and religion and stuff), it woudn't fit this area of the forum, since we usually treat dreams in less in depth manner here. Like, we focus more on techniques and stuff to lucid dream and controll them. Not really carring if they are plans, squares, astral projection or anything! Just the good ol' " how do I do this? " or " tips on how to... "

Well, think about what you said, "we usually treat dreams in less in depth manner here", why should I have to conform to how things are usually done, it seems to me any kind of new input, and way of thinking and perceiving the dream world would be welcomed, not called trolly and shunned upon. I came on this site to learn, and only got one point of view on it all, and there is another forum section for the "how to's" this is general Lucid discussion, and the meaning of "general" varies, from person to person, and to me this was quite general.

Let's not let this argument get too heated, otherwise we will end up seeing a lock here.

Originally Posted by brettWp

Stick this shit in beyond dreaming, you're gonna scare the newbies.

I am a newbie by definition, this wasn't built to scare people, Just to share my view, and keep people who have my same beliefs from going to far, and prevent any scare. And like loui54 said, this doesn't really fit the beyond dreaming section, it is were it belongs. You don't have to believe me, we are all entitled to our opinions, I'm just trying to help.

Originally Posted by louie54

I don't think this thread is really worth a move to beyond dreaming. This is about lucid dreaming in general, but the OP is just religious. Beyond dreaming usually covers other topics like Shared Dreaming and the like.

Thank you, I felt this was the appropriate section :/

Just a reminder to the people who had their posts deleted. Say something constructive to the topic or don't post at all.

Originally Posted by louie54

Yeah, don't expect to get favorable posts regarding this topic. I take the skeptic approach myself, but I'm not going to hurt you



I have to agree with this. Your brain is very powerful.

Btw, what about your lucid dream? I wouldn't mind hearing about that.

Hahaha, I didn't expect to, but for people to call this trolling is just ridiculous. I am always up for skepticism, and criticism, but don't bring me ignorant erroneous crap ya know?

You should at least announce that this is from a very religious standpoint in the title or something. It's frightening to newcomers to think of demons and evil penetrating their dreams... even if you're just warning, it makes them think more about it.

Sure man (are you a man?).

So about that 1 lucid dream of yours?

Originally Posted by brettWp

You should at least announce that this is from a very religious standpoint in the title or something. It's frightening to newcomers to think of demons and evil penetrating their dreams... even if you're just warning, it makes them think more about it.

That's... kind of true also

Lucid dreaming is widely unknown, and already has a bad reputation when people first hear of it and that's when they make up facts to scare people away from the unknown. People on here do claim that people in their lives says it's dangerous, even if they are being told about lucid dreaming for the first time. That's why I asked you where you get your information.

Sleep paralysis, don't even get me started

Originally Posted by brettWp

You should at least announce that this is from a very religious standpoint in the title or something. It's frightening to newcomers to think of demons and evil penetrating their dreams... even if you're just warning, it makes them think more about it.

This is not from a religious standpoint, I don't believe in religion. This is from my point of view, we are all sharing opinions here, it's not my fault some people don't think for themselves.(sorry if that comes off wrong, I don't mean for it too! I can be blunt I guess, I'm just faintly annoyed by all the accusations of trolling atm xD)

Originally Posted by louie54

Sure man (are you a man?).

So about that 1 lucid dream of yours?

Hahahahaha, man, boy, what ever you wanna call it, yes. I am male, how about that xD
And ohhs, how do you know of my Lucid dream o.O hahaha, it is quiet long I warn you, still interested?

Originally Posted by louie54

That's... kind of true also

Lucid dreaming is widely unknown, and already has a bad reputation when people first hear of it and that's when they make up facts to scare people away from the unknown. People on here do claim that people in their lives says it's dangerous, even if they are being told about lucid dreaming for the first time. That's why I asked you where you get your information.

Sleep paralysis, don't even get me started

Hahaha, i've read all about this stuff, sleep paralysis and all, I am not trying to strike fear! I assure you all, I guess the Warning in the title might have been a bit much :sorry: I just knew if I put anything about God or spirituality in the title probably no one would have opened it xD I am not scared even knowing this, but I am being careful, as anyone should with something you really know nothing about.

Originally Posted by Judge

how do you know of my Lucid dream o.O

Oh I don't know... I just had a feeling



Do tell about that dream btw

Bahahahahahahahahaha don't judge me! Lol, well here goes.(this was a repeated dream mind you)

I start off at some strange event, in a massive building. I can't seem to put together all the fragments of the beginning(the whole event basically) but I remember leaving, I start off leaving with my friend Shane, then think to myself no, he's gonna leave me again! So I get out the car, and get on the very front of my friend Shea's four wheeler(I guess I sat here in my dream for the view?) I recognize the fence to exit, but still am not lucid yet(arrgghh), we struggle getting out for some reason(probably cuz idk, I'm sitting in front of the driver xD), but eventually do, we get into the appropriate lane but she is going wayyy to slow and a car is coming fast, so I tell her to speed up, and I mean we sped the f*$k up, the front end were I was sitting started to lift up, but I think to myself, there's no way it could be I'm sitting on the front, then we even out(I still can't believe how preposterous it was I never realized she can't be driving properly with me in front of her ) all of a sudden she tells me, in a little bit, I(as in me) am going to have to hop out in front of her and turn into a human ramp(FTW? ), I tell her I can't do that, and she takes me to a store to buy some pills that will give me the power(I presume this thought came to me, cuz I decided I would do things passively in my dreams, instead of forcing things)I go in by myself and it's this weird ass voodoo store, anyways I wait in line for ever, then the dude just seems to know what I came for and goes to get them out of the back, I am tempted to steal some stuff from the lower counter, but decide not to, he brings the pill. I ask him if this will do all the work(cuz I was afraid to hop infront of the 4 wheeler, then not do it xD) and he just laughs and gives me the pill. I go outside and she's gone, I think to myself, DAMNIT!, and start to walk around, I talk to some people asking if they have seen her, and eventually come up to some huge playground tower thing, I remembered instantly that I climbed up that tower to look for Shane last time I had the dream(bam! lucid ) but then stop thinking about the fact it was a dream, and start worrying about finding Shea again lucidity gone I still consider it a lucid dream though xD cuz I did realize I was dreaming, just forgot five seconds later [Sorry if this failed you interesting wise]

Lol ah well. It's good to hear that you went ahead and considered it a lucid. Most people will ask if it was, given it being only a couple of seconds. The answer is always "yes" it was a lucid dream since you knew you were dreaming, duh

The frontal lobe (from your other thread) is heavily affected during dreams. More specifically the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, which is known to govern constructive reasoning and decision making, self-awareness, and explicit (conscious) memory. This explains why you didn't realize your friend was driving... uh, behind you. But to put it into better understanding, someone with autism likely has a defective frontal lobe/prefrontal cortex.

Thanks for finally telling me

Originally Posted by Judge

This is not from a religious standpoint, I don't believe in religion. This is from my point of view, we are all sharing opinions here, it's not my fault some people don't think for themselves.(sorry if that comes off wrong, I don't mean for it too! I can be blunt I guess, I'm just faintly annoyed by all the accusations of trolling atm xD)

Since when do non-religious people believe so strongly in God.

Originally Posted by louie54

Lol ah well. It's good to hear that you went ahead and considered it a lucid. Most people will ask if it was, given it being only a couple of seconds. The answer is always "yes" it was a lucid dream since you knew you were dreaming, duh

The frontal lobe (from your other thread) is heavily affected during dreams. More specifically the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, which is known to govern constructive reasoning and decision making, self-awareness, and explicit (conscious) memory. This explains why you didn't realize your friend was driving... uh, behind you. But to put it into better understanding, someone with autism likely has a defective frontal lobe/prefrontal cortex.

Thanks for finally telling me

Hahahaha, yeah I knew that our reasoning is heavily inflicted when we sleep, though not the science of it, thanks for the enlightenment and no problem, I didn't realize you were asking me at first, otherwise I woulda answered before

Originally Posted by brettWp

Since when do non-religious people believe so strongly in God.

Because religions are flawed and full of lies, the bible teaches against half the crap churches tell you (i.e. tithing, the cross, Christmas, and actually every holiday that is "Christian" is in fact pagan, Jesus would have been born sometime in August historically, the 25th of December is actually some huge Pagan leaders birthday) I have my own beliefs, I search for truth, Science actually points to a God, but they refuse it even so, because to accept it would make years and years of research and money completely wasted.

I agree with insideout to a point because our own fear can definetely be an adversary in lucid dreaming. Although I also agree with Judge, but not from a religous standpoint. Read The Art of Dreaming by Carlos Casteneda. This book will completely change your view on dreaming and open your eyes to the many dangers in which to avoid.