I know I've posted so many threads but this is just hard..

[Jay12341235]

Snowboy, how many times have you truthfully WILDed? If you want a real technique, than this is it: YouTube - How to induce an Out Of Body Experience - part 1 - Sleep Paralysis Whatever anyone says, sleep paralysis is the best gateway to lucid dreams. This technique actually works, and be sure to watch part 2. Call it an OBE or a lucid dream, I don't care. Spoiler for Contains information about the creator of the video and where to find him: This video was made by a man named Ben and you can find him and chat with him almost all the time at a sight called http://meta-mind.org or read his thousands of posts at http://astralviewers.com. He's had thousands of OBEs/Lucid dreams

[Snowboy]

Snowboy, how many times have you truthfully WILDed? I have never done an intentional WILD, although I have performed an accidental one in conjunction with a FILD. I just happen to know a good deal about WILDs. The technique I described is different from WILDs in several respects, but I'm not going to describe them right now. The WILD technique is a good one, I will admit that, I recommend it as well, but I'm just not looking to go through HH (frightening experiences when I was younger). I will provide any help that people want and I will say what I feel logically makes sense. I'm not sure if you asked that because of some things that I said that are contradictory to some WILD techniques, but I said that just in case.

[Mzzkc]

I have never done an intentional WILD, although I have performed an accidental one in conjunction with a FILD. I just happen to know a good deal about WILDs. The technique I described is different from WILDs in several respects, but I'm not going to describe them right now. Your technique is a WILD wherein you use mind clearing 'exercises' as an anchor. The reason you've never gotten it to work is because that's a terrible anchor. The WILD technique is a good one, I will admit that, I recommend it as well, but I'm just not looking to go through HH (frightening experiences when I was younger). I will provide any help that people want and I will say what I feel logically makes sense. I'm not sure if you asked that because of some things that I said that are contradictory to some WILD techniques, but I said that just in case. It's basically your typically taught WILD with a long WBTB using a simple mental anchor and some various transition methods. It won't work for everyone, and I do not approve of the music and nightmare-inducing imagery in the vids.

[Jay12341235]

Your technique is a WILD wherein you use mind clearing It's basically your typically taught WILD with a long WBTB using a simple mental anchor and some various transition methods. It won't work for everyone, and I do not approve of the music and nightmare-inducing imagery in the vids. It's not, your typically taught WILD does not include sleep paralysis. It's rare when I see techniques that involve REAL sleep paralysis. Over half of the DV population thinks that it's when your body is numb, but somehow they "moved" and got out of it. You can't move, therefore cannot exit it by moving (at least not right away). The images are there to prepare you for a typical SP experience. The experience is incredibly scary for most first timers and it would be even more cruel for him to put you into something like that unexpectidly. Sleep paralysis is almost always accompanied by a sudden feeling of terror. If you honestly can't handle it, don't rely on sleep paralysis because it's not for you, but it's still debateably the best way to get lucid dreams.

[Mzzkc]

It's not, your typically taught WILD does not include sleep paralysis. It's rare when I see techniques that involve REAL sleep paralysis. Over half of the DV population thinks that it's when your body is numb, but somehow they "moved" and got out of it. You can't move, therefore cannot exit it by moving (at least not right away). The images are there to prepare you for a typical SP experience. The experience is incredibly scary for most first timers and it would be even more cruel for him to put you into something like that unexpectidly. Sleep paralysis is almost always accompanied by a sudden feeling of terror. If you honestly can't handle it, don't rely on sleep paralysis because it's not for you, but it's still debateably the best way to get lucid dreams. A bit of a misquote there, as only my second point was referencing the vid. I think you've fallen prey to the misinformation out there. By their very definition, all legitimate WILD techniques inevitably include dealing with SP, not the fake, "numb" 'SP' many clueless people like referencing. As it is, SP isn't as bad as people make it out to be (most of the time, there are always exceptions). Luckily, the worst most people have to deal with is intense buzzing, odd sounds, and powerful vibrations. More demented HH is infrequent, at best. But the most important thing to not here, though, is that the goal presented in the vid is never to achieve SP, it's to "Separate" or, in more relate-able terms, fall asleep by directly entering a dream. You need to recognize SP to do that, yes, but trying to directly induce SP isn't the best way to go about things. Instead, it's better to let SP happen by itself during your normal WILD attempt, realize what's happening, then try out a transitional method.

[Jay12341235]

But the most important thing to not here, though, is that the goal presented in the vid is never to achieve SP, it's to "Separate" or, in more relate-able terms, fall asleep by directly entering a dream. You need to recognize SP to do that, yes, but trying to directly induce SP isn't the best way to go about things. Instead, it's better to let SP happen by itself during your normal WILD attempt, realize what's happening, then try out a transitional method. The entire video (and part 2) revolves around sleep paralysis. It is the key state for a sure way to go from reality to dreaming with full awareness if you actually enter SP. Most normal WILD methods don't come close to priming you properly for sleep paralysis and it's a great idea to induce SP and not wait for it to happen on it's own because of this. Why wouldn't you want to induce the 'gateway' into a lucid dream? That doesn't make sense to me.