Thread: Mancon's In Depth WILD Guide

Taking a shot after reading. Ive been about 25min since my wakeup for a WBTB-WILD.I'm starting to wakep too much, so time to give it a go, at my first induced LC(hopefully)

I tried your technique last night Mancon. I love how simple it is! I couldn't figure out when 10 minutes had been up, so I just rolled over when it felt time. I should't even be thinking too hard about that!
Anyways, after the third time I rolled over, my mind wandered and I lost consciousness. Should I stay completely aware throughout the attempt? (Like even if it takes me 1 hour or so to get to SP?)
Even if I lower my awareness down just a little bit because I think I'm trying to hard, my mind wanders, I move without thinking, and fall asleep. Any advice?

Originally Posted by Sydney

I tried your technique last night Mancon. I love how simple it is! I couldn't figure out when 10 minutes had been up, so I just rolled over when it felt time. I should't even be thinking too hard about that!
Anyways, after the third time I rolled over, my mind wandered and I lost consciousness. Should I stay completely aware throughout the attempt? (Like even if it takes me 1 hour or so to get to SP?)
Even if I lower my awareness down just a little bit because I think I'm trying to hard, my mind wanders, I move without thinking, and fall asleep. Any advice?

Hi! The trick is balancing awareness. You want to be aware enough so you stay conscious until you get into the dream, but not too aware where you will stay up. Sounds like you just need some practice with staying aware. Don't worry! Just keep it up

WuChi, Yes it is possible, but I really don't recommend it. It would take a long time to do. If you dont have time for the 'stupid' WBTB, I recommend you try another technique, like MILD.

still so is it possible to just go a sleep as normal U go and try WILD or I have to wake up and do this stupid WBTB I never have time or maybe don't want have attempts at 4:20 trying for an hour or more when at 6:30 I need stand up to work reading tutorial what I get U have to do it strait away but reading more post most people use WBTB at half of their sleep reading first I want it reading more its not for me but all i have is DILD and after reading this forum start to have DEILD, WILD is something impossible even if i imagine keep me busy or concentrate on breath fall a sleep pretty quickly focus in front of me is unintelligible still be trying on visualisation as on HH and try to be awareness and try take all the advices on all WILD's post attempts without WBTB

Okay! Yeah I get what you're saying. I got just a little bit farther last night. At one point, about the second time to roll over, I felt a very faint tingliness throughout my body. I wondered whether I should roll over or not when it was time. I did anyways. Was this the right thing to do?

Awakening from a dream is good, it means you should be going right back into REM when you return to sleep.

Great guide, except, there is one problem, what you're referring to as HH is NOT hypnotic hallucinations, it's hypnagognic hallucinations. Not trying to sound like a Grammar Nazi, just think you should change that to avoid confusion.

Originally Posted by HoodedPianist

Great guide, except, there is one problem, what you're referring to as HH is NOT hypnotic hallucinations, it's hypnagognic hallucinations. Not trying to sound like a Grammar Nazi, just think you should change that to avoid confusion.

That would an issue of semantics, not grammar

Do you guys think that beginners, and when I say beginners I mean like serious amateurs to this, should try to WILD as one of their first techniques?

Even though many claim that WILD is not a beginner's technique, I'd recommend new LD:ers to try it out. Some people are naturals at WILD, you might be one of them. Even if you're not, a WILD-attempt never is a lost experience.

That being said, DILD's tend to come easier for most people. If you have time and feel motivated, practice both of them.

Best of luck, Tucane