Sometimes I just don't wake up during the night. It's random when it happens. I will WBTB, but I want to DEILD too. |
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You can't so much train yourself to wake up (because you're already doing that naturally), but you can develop in your psyche an expectation, based on previously set intentions, to be aware of when you are exiting a dream. It's really not a situation where some technique will be able to come into play as much as it is a moment to test and/or be rewarded for the mental prep that you've already done. In other words, if you've built up your self-awareness and have a real intention to be ready for the moment when you are approaching waking life from a dream, then "being present" at the opening moments of DEILD likely will not be a problem. |
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Sometimes I just don't wake up during the night. It's random when it happens. I will WBTB, but I want to DEILD too. |
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Follow your dreams.
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Holy shit holy shit I think I found my technique holy shit sageous u are the man. |
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Last edited by CJC; 07-01-2012 at 02:55 PM.
Conrgats ThAtaInTmE; nice work! |
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Though ThAtaInTmE offeers a couple of decent suggestions, let me offer another one: don't try to wake up during the night (or, rather, notice that you woke up, because everybody wakes up several times during the night, but doesn't realize it). That's right; just sleep those five hours, and do your dream work, WBTB, WILD, and DEILD, after that. |
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PDF of WILD According to Sageous is available. |
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So, I am still going through a lot of the Q&A stuff. I am trying to get clarification on this and it helped to see others peoples questions but I have been wanting to ask in my own way. I am thinking a lot about RRCs and self-awareness. I dont seem to have trouble remembering I just don't know if I am doing it right. Or if I really get it. Or if I am over thinking. |
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"Oh, and everything is not what it seems
This life is but a dream"
Breakers Roar by Sturgill Simpson
^^ You got it right, Xanous, no doubt! |
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Planning to read this entire sub-forum again when I get home. Thanks again for all your hard work, Sageous! |
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On self-awareness. I am getting to the point that when I go the RRC I get straight into it like its a state of mind, or a thought, or an emotion. It is the same feeling as when I suddenly become lucid and my mind opens up to the dream. I feel like I can sometimes turn it on like a switch. So, I try to keep that switch on as long as possible. I challenge myself to go about my daily activities with my self-awareness tucked in my mind but allow my normal thoughts to proceed like usual. I am not sure I am explaining myself correctly. But anyway, is this a good idea? Or should it just be a few seconds and then let it go for awhile? I would think that being able to hold it would be helpful in a WILD as your mind wonders into HI and then a dream. Or do I have this wrong? In any event, I must be doing something right because my lucidity rate has never been this frequent in the past. |
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I think this is a good idea, if I understood you right. Indeed, it's pretty special, if you ask me! I also think, or might even know, that the ultimate goal of a practice like RRC (and self-awareness, and dream yoga, for that matter) is to develop self-awareness until it becomes second nature, and is switched "on" to some degree all the time. |
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So I've been reading Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming lately and came to the portion about WILDs and wanted to get your opinion on the methods in the book. I've found ETWoLD to be pretty solid for technique advice and such thus far, but I never saw you mention any of this style in your methods. |
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The best reason for having dreams is that in dreams no reasons are necessary.
No sailor controls the sea. Only a foolish sailor would say such a thing. Similarly, no lucid dreamer controls the dream.
Like a sailor on the sea, we lucid dreamers direct our perceptual awareness within the larger state of dreaming.
I think he did touch on it briefly. A few references at least. I think he left that stuff up to us. Just sayn'. |
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^^ Yup, RareCola, what Xanous said! |
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Last edited by Sageous; 08-05-2012 at 04:10 AM.
so sageous why do you recommend attempting WILD's on your back? |
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Primarily from experience -- the vast majority of my successful WILD's occurred while on my back, with on my right side coming in a distant second. Aside from that anecdotal evidence (which ought to be enough, I think, given the overall subjective nature of my course), I believe the sleep yoga folks recommend sleeping on your back if possible, and I've also noticed most reports I've gotten from other accomplished LD'ers over the years included sleeping on their back. |
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I've been thinking... should I try to pick a method or tutorial? Or is strong self-awareness, visualization, and timing all I need to focus on? I have been failing my WILD's by falling asleep but I will often wake from a dream and remember to hold still and just think DEILD and I will hit straight to SP. Then its just relaxing, ignoring the noise, visualizing and keeping false awakenings in mind. (FAs fool me almost every time!) It really shouldn't be complicated should it? I am just trying to simplify somethings here. |
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Xanous: |
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Clarification! That helps. I over-think things too much. I'll focus on the fundamentals and do it the way I do it. And now I've made the DEILD WILD connection I know what to expect when I get my first true WILD. |
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Check out my DreamViews Podcast with OpheliaBlue!
The best reason for having dreams is that in dreams no reasons are necessary.
No sailor controls the sea. Only a foolish sailor would say such a thing. Similarly, no lucid dreamer controls the dream.
Like a sailor on the sea, we lucid dreamers direct our perceptual awareness within the larger state of dreaming.
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