Thread: KingYoshi's Complete WILDing Guide - All my techniques & secrets revealed (WILD,DEILD,WBTB+more)

Originally Posted by CosmicMember44

KingYoshi do you recognise this in any way?

To wake up at night entirely still and not moving, your body stayed still and you did not biologically move.

This happens to me A LOT and i dont know what to do...

I feel extremely awake and wont transition, even those times when i can remember a dream just before waking up.
I also get good amounts of numbsess throughout my body which i can feel too.

Yeah, the numbness can be some after effects of SP upon waking or general body numbness from staying in one position for so long (while sleeping). Either way, this numbness is good and means your body is in that super relaxed right out of sleep state. The problem may very well be that you are waking up too much. You want to wake up, but you still want to teeter on the edge of sleep as delicately as you can. So, next time you catch yourself waking up, try not to think so much. Just stay super relaxed and pretend like you are still asleep. Even though you clearly know you are waking up, pretend that you aren't and you are actually still sleeping and this is just part of the dream.

Thank you for giving me my first Lucid where I had control of the dream! I tried the WILD with WBTB when I woke up this morning. I do have a question though.
I had a non-lucid dream and woke up. I wanted to go back to sleep to continue the dream Lucid, so I tried your technique. I woke up from shock in my dream so I was more awake then I would have liked to.
Every once in a while I would get this feeling of slight pressure, especially on my stomach and upper body. It wasn't too hard that I couldn't breathe but it was very slightly restricting. Every time this would occur one of two things happened: I tried to work with the pressure and kind of make it go throughout my body more, but then it would disappear; I just left the pressure be and eventually it would just go away. I had a feeling this was my body going into Sleep Paralysis a little bit (which I had a couple times when I was much younger, and scared me to death) but I also thought that this was my body going into a dream state.

I could not succeed and almost quit, but right before I stopped a dream appeared! It wasn't the dream before, which I will discuss at the end. It was weird because I was in 3rd person, so I could technically see myself. I was facing myself also, so I had view of my front. I was blocky, and did not look like myself. Everything seemed like Minecraft (which I haven't played in almost a year and a half) as it wasn't the most vivd, blockiness everywhere, and low definition *graphics*. I had a red balloon attached to my shoulders which allowed me to float around wherever I wanted. I floated for a while and then landed. I tried to give myself a ninja sword/katana and it worked! I then tried to conjure up a person, as to which nothing happened. I attempted something else (don't recall what) and then woke up.

I am wondering if I did something wrong to make a dream like this happen. The dream I was trying to get back into was a real-life situation that was pretty vivid (and of course first person). My theory is that since I woke up so suddenly with shock, I woke up too much so that it took too long to get back to sleeping. My dream in REM sleep disappeared because I think I passed REM sleep and went into NREM sleep, hence the bad vividness and low definition. I'm sure my low experience with Lucid Dreaming contributed to it too.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and thanks again for letting me have a control-able Lucid!
EDIT: I also want to let you know that this was the first time I attempted WILDing! This definitely improved my confidence!

Congrats on your success! I'm glad this guide helped out a bit and I'll continue to help out in any way I can.

The pressure was a hallucination brought on by the effects of SP. You handled it well and just keep those thoughts in mind. If something is unpleasant, you can adjust or ignore it to your preference. So, excellent job there. If you want to get into a particular dream setting, you have to pretty much visualize the setting as you are transitioning. Once the dream starts forming, you have to mold it with your mind into the setting of your choosing. This can be a bit harder because the increased concentration and manipulation can cause you to wake yourself up prior to transitioning. It can definitely be done, but it is so much easier just to get into the dream state first, then travel to your destined dreamscape.

I have had many dreams similar to this with the low definition "graphics" and strange perspectives (3rd person, etc). You didn't do anything wrong, but you could have subconsciously created this Mine Craft dream for any number of reasons. In my long time practicing WILD, no two WILD experiences are ever exactly the same. Some are similar but they tend to vary greatly from one attempt to the other. So, I wouldn't worry about how this dream turned out. Just soak up the success from this attempt and keep at it. The more experience you gain, the more you will learn about the whole process and how these things work.

With that said, if you get into this situation again (w/ the Mine Craft type quality), remember this is a dream. Dreams don't work the same way as normal life. It may be Mine Craft graphics where you are now, but high def realism may be just over the next hill. If you don't like your setting, you can always travel to a new one. It can go from shitty 2D to mind blowing 3D simply by rounding a corner. If the dream is fuzzy and you don't feel like you are fully "connected." Take some time to let everything settle around you and start off with slow movements to ease yourself into the dream. You can also perform some stabilization techniques at this point. The dream can be very stable, but still have the shitty 2D graphics though, so you can just travel to a new environment at this point.

Without actually experiencing it, I believe you were still in REM sleep, but sometimes the dream can dip in quality especially if your mind isn't used to lucid dreaming. You did an excellent job, so just keep practicing and be sure to keep me updated. I'll be able to help you along the way as you gain that valuable experience.

Hello KingYoshi, i have been experiencing dry spell for quite long time
the only problem that i came across is that i wasn't quite 'tired' to go back to the sleep when staying still in DEILD
will it help if i set my alarm 3-4 hrs instead 5-6 hours? I usually have the longest REM period after my 6hrs of sleep and in the morning

Originally Posted by rodall

Hello KingYoshi, i have been experiencing dry spell for quite long time
the only problem that i came across is that i wasn't quite 'tired' to go back to the sleep when staying still in DEILD
will it help if i set my alarm 3-4 hrs instead 5-6 hours? I usually have the longest REM period after my 6hrs of sleep and in the morning

I'd suggest you try 3-4 hours and see if that helps out a bit. You can always just set your alarm again after your 3-4 hour attempt in order to hit that 5-6 hour one as well. Also, make sure your alarm isn't jarring you awake. You want to gradually ease into the wake up, so your mind and body can get right back to sleep easily. Good luck to you and keep me updated on your progress !

Hey KingYoshi!

Thanks for this awesome tutorial. (Even though I read your first one - which was very helpful - I really did like this one!)
I attempted the other night at WBTB/WILD. I tried 3 WBTBs - one after 6 hours of sleep, one after 7, and then one after 8.
They all failed, but I'm just going to talk about the first WILD attempt, because I have a question or two about it.

I noticed that whilst doing the WILD technique, I felt almost like a "When am I ever going to enter a dream?" feeling. I hadn't felt any inkling of SP yet either. After about 45 minutes, I turned over and looked at the clock. Then I gave up and fell asleep.

I guess my question is: Am I progressing any if I lay there for 45+ minutes or was I totally doing something wrong? Do you think I was too awake?

Oh and another thing: That same night I stayed up for WBTB for 10 minutes. I went to the bathroom, got a sip of water, and layed in my bed staring up at the ceiling for 5 minutes. Then I attempted WILD. That was when I couldn't "fall asleep".

But last night's attempt I stayed up for a mere 5 minutes - so that I would possibly fall asleep faster this time - just going to the bathroom and such. But I ended up forgetting that I was supposed to WILD and fell asleep when I hit the pillow. :/

I guess I just need to find that sweet spot, huh? ^^

I can't believe that Dry Spell Killer technique worked!

Although I was only lucid for a few seconds since I was waking up for the day, I still managed to pull it off!

Thanks Yoshi!

KingYoshi, sorry to say this, but it's Wake Initiated, not induced. It doesn't really matter but I just thought I'd let you know!

TMN

Hey KingYoshi.
I've been trying your technique in the last couple of days with no success..
I'm kinda noob around here (my amazing LD count gives me away) so I'm finding the balance between not falling asleep too early and not being too awake a little difficult.
I tend to fall asleep way before any SP signs show up.
If its taking a bit too long do you use mantras to keep you aware?
Thanks

Originally Posted by sprada

Hey KingYoshi.
I've been trying your technique in the last couple of days with no success..
I'm kinda noob around here (my amazing LD count gives me away) so I'm finding the balance between not falling asleep too early and not being too awake a little difficult.
I tend to fall asleep way before any SP signs show up.
If its taking a bit too long do you use mantras to keep you aware?
Thanks

I don't suggest you start with WILD as a beginner. You should start with something like DILD or MILD, and start experimenting with WILD once you have a steady stream of LDs.

TMN

Originally Posted by TheModernNinja

I don't suggest you start with WILD as a beginner. You should start with something like DILD or MILD, and start experimenting with WILD once you have a steady stream of LDs.

TMN

I know that WILD it's harder for a beginner than DILD but they're not mutually exclusive are they?
I'm trying WILDS during naps basically.
I'm focusing primarily on DILDS (with mantras, RC, awareness and self awareness)
To be honest got much closer with WILD than DILD.

Amazing tutorial, helped me out HEEEEAPS

Originally Posted by sprada

I know that WILD it's harder for a beginner than DILD but they're not mutually exclusive are they?
I'm trying WILDS during naps basically.
I'm focusing primarily on DILDS (with mantras, RC, awareness and self awareness)
To be honest got much closer with WILD than DILD.

They are not, however, you will get better success in the long run if you start with something like DILD or MILD. As someone who attempted WILD over 150 times as a beginner, trust me, I know. Because DILD gives you lucids without you actually actively trying, it's more of a passive thing. Once you get a steady stream of LDs, you can start WILDing. WILDs require a lot more effort and experimentation, and you will get frustrated since you are not getting LDs in the process. Please remind me to link you my guide once it's finished. I have a whole page dedicated to why you should not start with WILD. I should be finished in about 2-3 weeks.

TMN

EDIT: My LD count is a testimony of why you should not start with WILD.

KingYoshi
Do i have to fall asleep without moving and then enter a lucid dream?

Or is the technique to stay awake and fall asleep conscious like a wild?

Or do both work?

Wow, this guide has really inspired me! My motivation is back again thanks to you! I never thought of rolling over while WILDing. I'll try this out in a couple of days when I'm not so busy.

Hi, i havent read all the comments to this great post, so ill just ask.
What kind of alarm clock / app are you using for that auto-snooze thing? I have an ipad, and i cant seem to find any apps that have the auto-snooze function.
Great "guide"!!! I was into lucid dreaming many years ago (on the old website) and reading this guide made me super stoked about it once again! hoping to be all kinds of lucid!!

This was an amazing read, thanks Yoshi!
When you first got interested in LD'ing and Wild did you ever get afraid of SP? During the day I keep saying to myself I'm excited and all that but when it comes to it I get really scared and anxious to even fall asleep due to the fact of me thinking I will accidentally fall into SP. I don't even find it scary in theory until it actually comes to me doing it. Any tips for me fighting this fear? I might start wild in the day time to have a better feel and understanding of SP and the state of mind that comes with it.
I only think this way because about a year ago when I use to read about lucid dreaming I would fall into SP during the night, and I would always get scared that I would fall into it and it happened a few times and it was pretty bad experiences. And now it's happening all over again I'm scared to ride the wild all the way to SP, and scared even sometimes to fall asleep because of the fact of knowing I could get SP when it's on my mind.

I know this is common but what did you do yoshi or anyone else that is experienced. Thank you guy's.

Originally Posted by jkdawg190

This was an amazing read, thanks Yoshi!
When you first got interested in LD'ing and Wild did you ever get afraid of SP? During the day I keep saying to myself I'm excited and all that but when it comes to it I get really scared and anxious to even fall asleep due to the fact of me thinking I will accidentally fall into SP. I don't even find it scary in theory until it actually comes to me doing it. Any tips for me fighting this fear? I might start wild in the day time to have a better feel and understanding of SP and the state of mind that comes with it.
I only think this way because about a year ago when I use to read about lucid dreaming I would fall into SP during the night, and I would always get scared that I would fall into it and it happened a few times and it was pretty bad experiences. And now it's happening all over again I'm scared to ride the wild all the way to SP, and scared even sometimes to fall asleep because of the fact of knowing I could get SP when it's on my mind.

I know this is common but what did you do yoshi or anyone else that is experienced. Thank you guy's.

Hi,

Easiest thing to do would be getting used to it
You've expirenced that kind of stuff since being baby child...
You expirence them every night multiple times
Yet you don't remember them due to being unconscious during that time

The only difference in WILDs is that you are conscious during the process...

Does anyone know exactly when to set the alarms? Like 2 hours after falling asleep isn't really specific as you can never truly know WHEN you fall asleep. Should you consider that point in time as when you first got in bed and decided to fall asleep?

Back from the dead . Thanks everyone for answering questions in my absence.

Originally Posted by deliiffa

Does anyone know exactly when to set the alarms? Like 2 hours after falling asleep isn't really specific as you can never truly know WHEN you fall asleep. Should you consider that point in time as when you first got in bed and decided to fall asleep?

Just try to make a guesstimate. It doesn't have to be perfect. For example, if it generally takes you 30 minutes to fall asleep, go ahead and set your alarm for an extra 30 minutes later.

Yay! Kingyoshi's back!

I still remember your super awesome weather control dream with those tornadoes for the competition. Was very inspiring!

Originally Posted by NyxCC

Yay! Kingyoshi's back!

I still remember your super awesome weather control dream with those tornadoes for the competition. Was very inspiring!

Thanks . Its good to be back!

Welcome Back King! I believe I did my first WILD using your technique!

Awesome!! Glad it helped you out . Also, thanks for the warm welcome.