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      This is an interesting idea. One of my long-term goals has been to gradually develop a fairly continuous sense of self-awareness as close to 24/7 as possible, throughout the day and night, though this currently doesn't necessarily mean a continuous RC (though I do RCs fairly frequently). If I understand the basic concept correctly, maybe it wouldn't be too hard to incorporate into my routine, simply doing it along with my usual trying to keep my general focus on my existence (self-awareness).

      It's essentially about just learning to pay attention to and become familiar with how the body physically feels, correct? I guess it needn't be limited to gravity, but just generally paying attention to all the general sensations and learning to always be on the watch for inconsistencies.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DannyCool View Post
      When I jog the gravity is heavy. It is especially heavy going up a hill. These physical acts require effort that works with gravity. Each time I land on the ground I feel the gravity and then I have to push up out of it to keep going. Gravity, energy and physical strength must be linked. This maybe because I have no control over the elements and my control is limited to my body only?
      It is not that you have limited control of your body, but rather that you are starting to control your "body". Remember that in a dream, the whole dream is your body no just the physical manifestation of it, so while it seems the physical part of it is limited, think that your body as a whole is not.

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      This is an interesting idea. One of my long-term goals has been to gradually develop a fairly continuous sense of self-awareness as close to 24/7 as possible, throughout the day and night, though this currently doesn't necessarily mean a continuous RC (though I do RCs fairly frequently). If I understand the basic concept correctly, maybe it wouldn't be too hard to incorporate into my routine, simply doing it along with my usual trying to keep my general focus on my existence (self-awareness).

      It's essentially about just learning to pay attention to and become familiar with how the body physically feels, correct? I guess it needn't be limited to gravity, but just generally paying attention to all the general sensations and learning to always be on the watch for inconsistencies.
      Actually, I always tell people to find their "Natural" RC, something that works for their own dream world. Gravity works for me, but who dreams in the same way as other people do? So no reason to actually bother about this and just try the most natural thing for everytone. But yep, gravity RC is an excersice of self/awareness and mindfulness, to some degree.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hukif View Post
      Actually, I always tell people to find their "Natural" RC, something that works for their own dream world. Gravity works for me, but who dreams in the same way as other people do? So no reason to actually bother about this and just try the most natural thing for everytone. But yep, gravity RC is an excersice of self/awareness and mindfulness, to some degree.
      That makes sense. There are a number of common themes and deviations from waking life in my own dreams that I should be fairly familiar with by now. It's just a matter of remembering to choose any of those and watch out for them, I think.
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      It's essentially about just learning to pay attention to and become familiar with how the body physically feels, correct? I guess it needn't be limited to gravity, but just generally paying attention to all the general sensations and learning to always be on the watch for inconsistencies.
      I think focusing on multiple sensations could be quite exhausting, well most ADA stuff is. That's why I like the gravity RC, because you only have to focus on one thing.
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      I concur here

      It really would be nice to see others produce some results with this technique, quite honestly it is a mother to practice it I cannot emphasize how awesomely it will pay off.
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      I have made a thread in which i am posting my progress with this technique.I will be updating as soon as i am having some results.You can check it out.Actually i did this because i read one of your posts in an older thread.You mentioned back in that post that you wuould like to conduct an experiment with hukif and see peoples results with his techniqie.
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      Quote Originally Posted by tasinios View Post
      I have made a thread in which i am posting my progress with this technique.I will be updating as soon as i am having some results.You can check it out.Actually i did this because i read one of your posts in an older thread.You mentioned back in that post that you would like to conduct an experiment with Hukif and see peoples results with his technique.
      It really would be cool to see others practice it because as Hukif stated everyone's dreams and results will be different so it would be interesting.

      Not only that but we can keep each other motivated as well because at times you'll want to say screw it lol.

      I remember my first gravity LD, makes me smile to this day still!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Azul View Post
      I concur here

      It really would be nice to see others produce some results with this technique, quite honestly it is a mother to practice it I cannot emphasize how awesomely it will pay off.
      Hi Azul ~ can you say some more about how it is a mother of a practice for you - like - can you spell it out what's going on for you 24/7 as you are practicing it - for example what questions you are asking yourself or what mindset you are developing and focusing on moment by moment

      I know your focusing on gravity - but can you spell it out all the ways you bring it into your day and night - cheers
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      Quote Originally Posted by Patience108 View Post
      Hi Azul ~ can you say some more about how it is a mother of a practice for you - like - can you spell it out what's going on for you 24/7 as you are practicing it - for example what questions you are asking yourself or what mindset you are developing and focusing on moment by moment

      I know your focusing on gravity - but can you spell it out all the ways you bring it into your day and night - cheers
      Hey Patience, what I meant by it being a mother to practice was that in the first couple of weeks of training it became very difficult at times. Mainly because I didn't know whether I was doing right or wrong majority of the time and not only that I was trying to do it Hukif's way.

      So after a while I decided to find a way that would better suit me, and I did. I thought to myself, it only makes sense to follow up with a body part that you use the most throughout the day. So for me it was the hands and that's what I started focusing on regardless of what I was doing with the exception of walking I did focus on the legs at that point.

      Now since I only focus on my hands, that's not to say that when I'm dreaming that I'll only become lucid if gravity is weird in my hands because I have gravity induced dreams from a number of things. Like I could be walking and become lucid, or riding a bike, etc.

      Guys what you're doing here is creating a FOCUS POINT in waking life so it makes it a LOT easier to keep up the RC, not unless you're hardcore like Hukif lol. What you're doing is building up the general awareness of gravity in waking life and bringing it into your dreams.

      I encourage you to find something that you use throughout the day and let that be a focus point for you gravity rc and it will evolve from there.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Azul View Post
      Hey Patience, what I meant by it being a mother to practice was that in the first couple of weeks of training it became very difficult at times. Mainly because I didn't know whether I was doing right or wrong majority of the time and not only that I was trying to do it Hukif's way.

      So after a while I decided to find a way that would better suit me, and I did. I thought to myself, it only makes sense to follow up with a body part that you use the most throughout the day. So for me it was the hands and that's what I started focusing on regardless of what I was doing with the exception of walking I did focus on the legs at that point.

      Now since I only focus on my hands, that's not to say that when I'm dreaming that I'll only become lucid if gravity is weird in my hands because I have gravity induced dreams from a number of things. Like I could be walking and become lucid, or riding a bike, etc.

      Guys what you're doing here is creating a FOCUS POINT in waking life so it makes it a LOT easier to keep up the RC, not unless you're hardcore like Hukif lol. What you're doing is building up the general awareness of gravity in waking life and bringing it into your dreams.

      I encourage you to find something that you use throughout the day and let that be a focus point for you gravity rc and it will evolve from there.
      How effective is this RC? Can it really produce daily lds?

      Well, I'm going to give this a try for a whole month, my focus id on my ankle/foot.

      Will post daily updates in mt DJ - how I'm finding it, can i manage it all day or not

      Also, shall I stop doing normal rcs?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Habba View Post
      How effective is this RC? Can it really produce daily lds?

      Well, I'm going to give this a try for a whole month, my focus id on my ankle/foot.

      Will post daily updates in mt DJ - how I'm finding it, can i manage it all day or not

      Also, shall I stop doing normal rcs?
      Well hukif is getting daily lds from it as far as i am concerned.Have to warn you though...it is discouraging and you must be patient.I am on day 21 no lucid results yet....it is easier to practise it though...I still forget to do it when i am doing stuff with other people.Working on that one.Also my recall is not yet augmented at all...right now i am waking up with no dreams and it annoys me as hell...

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      Hey,

      I have decided to commit to this technique, gravity RC. I just have a few questions :

      1- Do you also do this technique in bed? It kind of reminds me of SSILD, and I think it could be effective.

      2- For me, I can feel the gravity of my whole body by noticing the pressure under my feet, while standing or walking. Is this a good practice? In other words, in dreams you don't feel that pressure, right? Can I rely solely on this to have lucid dreams?

      Thanks a lot!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carbon View Post
      Hey,

      I have decided to commit to this technique, gravity RC. I just have a few questions :

      1- Do you also do this technique in bed? It kind of reminds me of SSILD, and I think it could be effective.

      2- For me, I can feel the gravity of my whole body by noticing the pressure under my feet, while standing or walking. Is this a good practice? In other words, in dreams you don't feel that pressure, right? Can I rely solely on this to have lucid dreams?

      Thanks a lot!
      He does it all day.

      I think mixing it with something else may alter your chance of becoming lucid in the future.il Im only assuming though. You can do your whole body, some beginners start of one with body part.

      So, gravity is completely different in dreams, right? So when we learn this RC we are able to learn the different between which one is waking and which one is not.

      I think it's all about conditioning the mind.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carbon View Post
      Hey,

      I have decided to commit to this technique, gravity RC. I just have a few questions :

      1- Do you also do this technique in bed? It kind of reminds me of SSILD, and I think it could be effective.

      2- For me, I can feel the gravity of my whole body by noticing the pressure under my feet, while standing or walking. Is this a good practice? In other words, in dreams you don't feel that pressure, right? Can I rely solely on this to have lucid dreams?

      Thanks a lot!
      yay!

      1.- I do this technique all day long, including during the night and also when I wake up between each dream.

      2.- I rely solely on this, don't know about others but at least 4 people have used it to get nightly lucids. Remember that everyones dreams are different.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hukif View Post
      yay!

      1.- I do this technique all day long, including during the night and also when I wake up between each dream.

      2.- I rely solely on this, don't know about others but at least 4 people have used it to get nightly lucids. Remember that everyones dreams are different.
      So happy to see you back and posting on the forums, Hukif!

      I think #1 is the key. It's not (for everyone at least) so much the gravity, as it is the continuous focus and the activation of an "observer mode" that is always evaluating one particular aspect of your present experience. For about 3 months, 2 years ago, I tried ADA/RC - location: being aware of where I was, and whether or not it was a waking location. I did this because I noticed that I tended to be thinking about and noticing my surroundings a lot in dreams, and that with only a few exceptions all my dreams took place in non-waking locations. I had some success with it, but discontinued it in favor of general mindfulness. Location is pretty tricky because it is not a physical sensation, it requires some thinking to evaluate and so may not be ideal for ADA/RC. Interestingly enough, during that time I had several cases of becoming aware of gravity (feeling "too light" mostly) in a non-lucid dream. I did have several lucids where I noticed either that I wasn't currently where I had just been before, or that a particular pathway had suddenly become closed.

      Also, if I'm not mistaken, Hukif, by the time you began your ADA/RC-gravity you had already been working very hard for many years to get lucid, and had dreams so vivid they were indistinguishable from waking life otherwise, is that right? I imagine your general awareness built up in those years of practice became extremely high.

      So for those working on this technique, don't give up! The more you become tuned in to your experiences, paying attention to them, the more lucid you will become in both waking and dreaming life.
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      Quote Originally Posted by FryingMan View Post
      So happy to see you back and posting on the forums, Hukif!

      I think #1 is the key. It's not (for everyone at least) so much the gravity, as it is the continuous focus and the activation of an "observer mode" that is always evaluating one particular aspect of your present experience. For about 3 months, 2 years ago, I tried ADA/RC - location: being aware of where I was, and whether or not it was a waking location. I did this because I noticed that I tended to be thinking about and noticing my surroundings a lot in dreams, and that with only a few exceptions all my dreams took place in non-waking locations. I had some success with it, but discontinued it in favor of general mindfulness. Location is pretty tricky because it is not a physical sensation, it requires some thinking to evaluate and so may not be ideal for ADA/RC. Interestingly enough, during that time I had several cases of becoming aware of gravity (feeling "too light" mostly) in a non-lucid dream. I did have several lucids where I noticed either that I wasn't currently where I had just been before, or that a particular pathway had suddenly become closed.

      Also, if I'm not mistaken, Hukif, by the time you began your ADA/RC-gravity you had already been working very hard for many years to get lucid, and had dreams so vivid they were indistinguishable from waking life otherwise, is that right? I imagine your general awareness built up in those years of practice became extremely high.

      So for those working on this technique, don't give up! The more you become tuned in to your experiences, paying attention to them, the more lucid you will become in both waking and dreaming life.
      Yo! Glad to come back too, and get back on my dreaming journey cause truth to be told, was slacking off a lot.

      And yep, before starting this RC, I had been working hard to get lucid for 8 years, but silly waking-life like dreams made it near impossible for me to get lucid for the longest time.

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      Hey again,

      Thanks for the answers.

      Just one more thing:

      I am focusing on my weight about 1/4 of the time to start with. What I do is simply become aware of the feeling of gravity, and that's all.

      I'm wondering if I have to think: 'hmm, this feels normal, so I'm probably awake', because I have read somewhere else (Azul I think) that using logic won't work. I'm not sure this what he was taking about though.

      And if I do have to judge whether the gravity feels normal or weird, how often should I do that?

      Thanks!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carbon View Post
      Hey again,

      Thanks for the answers.

      Just one more thing:

      I am focusing on my weight about 1/4 of the time to start with. What I do is simply become aware of the feeling of gravity, and that's all.

      I'm wondering if I have to think: 'hmm, this feels normal, so I'm probably awake', because I have read somewhere else (Azul I think) that using logic won't work. I'm not sure this what he was taking about though.

      And if I do have to judge whether the gravity feels normal or weird, how often should I do that?

      Thanks!
      Hey Carbon,

      To clear the confusion, thinking if gravity feels normal is ok but I would say later on after you've become more used to doing the RC. The reason I say this is because right now you're really just training your mind to become acquainted with the feeling of gravity in waking life. Don't get caught up in the mindset of thinking whether you're doing it right or wrong, just let it be.

      And yes, DO NOT use logic. For example, saying you're eating food and you think "well since gravity is light right now then in a dream it would be heavy." Not exactly the case because like Hukif said, gravity in dreams is really weird lol.

      So I encourage to practice lightly for now so you don't overwhelm yourself, stay consistent and you'll soon understand what Hukif and I are talking about because it will be different for you as opposed to us.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Azul View Post
      Hey Carbon,

      To clear the confusion, thinking if gravity feels normal is ok but I would say later on after you've become more used to doing the RC. The reason I say this is because right now you're really just training your mind to become acquainted with the feeling of gravity in waking life. Don't get caught up in the mindset of thinking whether you're doing it right or wrong, just let it be.

      And yes, DO NOT use logic. For example, saying you're eating food and you think "well since gravity is light right now then in a dream it would be heavy." Not exactly the case because like Hukif said, gravity in dreams is really weird lol.

      So I encourage to practice lightly for now so you don't overwhelm yourself, stay consistent and you'll soon understand what Hukif and I are talking about because it will be different for you as opposed to us.
      Thanks a lot Azul!
      It makes much more sense now

      By the way, can I monitor my weekly progress here, or do you want me to make another thread as others have done?
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      Glad to have helped.

      I'm not going to hijack Hukif's thread but IMO I would suggest starting your own thread to keep track of your progress then again you could start it here but that's up to Hukif.
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      I read this guide as well as Azul's yesterday and wanted to say thanks to both of you. I practiced a bit throughout the day yesterday feeling the effect of gravity on my body as whole unit, and paying attention to orientation to gravity simultaneously.
      What I noticed was that after a WBTB I was all of a suddenly aware I was dreaming at the start of a scene while levitating ~40 ft.
      I was wondering if this is a common occurrence with gravity practice. Usually I levitate afterward, but I believe this was a first for me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneirin View Post
      I read this guide as well as Azul's yesterday and wanted to say thanks to both of you. I practiced a bit throughout the day yesterday feeling the effect of gravity on my body as whole unit, and paying attention to orientation to gravity simultaneously.
      What I noticed was that after a WBTB I was all of a suddenly aware I was dreaming at the start of a scene while levitating ~40 ft.
      I was wondering if this is a common occurrence with gravity practice. Usually I levitate afterward, but I believe this was a first for me.
      Actually Oneirin, I want to say it COULD be because when I started getting my lucids from it I was tempted to do the Gravity RC by levitating.

      Then again I'm always flying in my dreams lol.
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      Hukif ~ over on tasinios's gravity RC thread you touched on something I found intriguing ...something about watching your communication's gravity as well as the usual bodily gravity we tend to think of first when we think of gravity - can you elaborate on that some more and any other not so obvious ways of checking out the gravity you personally bring into your 24/7 RC
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      Sounds like you guys are starting to get the hang of it. We can talk about it in theory all day but I strongly encourage you all to apply it in practice too!
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      Been at it all day, the feeling of heaviness is really annoying me! Damn
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      Last Post: 08-27-2005, 06:10 AM

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