Thread: How to VILD effectively

I'm definantley trying this tonight. thx!

Very useful tips. One part that makes a lot of sense to me was the section on after awakening it is easier to return to the dream through visualization. I've tried this in the past but failed, so it's nice to know that it is quite possible.

Badass tutorial man!
Really deep, explaining and beginner friendly.
Im gonna work on this whenever i get time over. Just a question, will this increase the vividness of daydreams?
Keep it going dude!

//Zelzahim

Does this have to be done during a nap or with wbtb like WILD does or can I just do when I go to bed at normal time?

I have done this before. Actually I do it quite often. If I wake up earlier than usual, I will lay there and visualize stuff. I will imagine how it feels and looks. A few times I forgot that I was visualizing, and was in it. As real as a dream. And then I suddenly think "how did I get here?" Then I remember I am visualizing and 'snap' out of the dream. Any suggustions on how to NOT do that? I forget that I am visualizing and then I am in the dream I was building, not lucid, and then suddenly think of how I got there. Should I just say to myself while I am doing it once in a while that I am visualizing, and will enter a dream lucidly? I hope I can get to entering the dream consciously. But, at least I will be in the dream I was thinking up.
I find it hard to visualize later in the day or when I go to bed. Probably because I am still unconcsiouly thinking of stuff that happened in the day. And maybe someone can answer this. If you do this succesfully, you will be in the dream state, the same as if you had one when you were asleep, which means that after you are in the dream, you are asleep right? So you won't lose much sleep. And, don't you have to be in a REM cycle to have a high-quality dream. Thus, it would be hard to do this when you are going to bed, hours away from REM.

Anyway, great post! I have always wondered about my experiences with this.

(I don’t consider this dreaming yet. Although, it tends to be hard to draw the line between a dream and a visualization.)

I know what you mean. I recently had a dream where I thought if I'm Lucid I'll play the song 'Stand by Me' and I did but I couldn't classify if I was dreaming or not, so I don't count as a LD.

I'm excited to try this tonight and I might post back tomorrow.

Originally Posted by thanksj

(I don’t consider this dreaming yet. Although, it tends to be hard to draw the line between a dream and a visualization.)

I know what you mean. I recently had a dream where I thought if I'm Lucid I'll play the song 'Stand by Me' and I did but I couldn't classify if I was dreaming or not, so I don't count as a LD.

I'm excited to try this tonight and I might post back tomorrow.

Sorry, I couldn't do it I had a bit of a hectic night. I'll probably try again within this week and I might post back the results if it works.

This technique looks very promising. I'm going to try it tonight and report back tomorrow. Thanks for posting

I tried and it didn't work for me. I guess I didn't I try hard enough. I'm going to try again soon and report back soon.

I'd love to VILD. However, the effort keeps me awake. Shame.

I've tried this technique last night and I got really close to sleep paralysis. I will try it tonight too. This works.

I like the idea of this! I remember reading about VILDs earlier but I particularly like your tutorial. Even just picturing the image you conjured up sounds really nice. Even if I failed at the VILD the first few times, I definitely wouldn't mind falling asleep to such a peaceful image! I'm still somewhat new, but I've had a couple dreams of semi-lucidity. But I'm not really expecting it to work for one as inexperienced as me. Definitely gonna give it a try though!

This sounds great! It is something to keep your mind on while WILDing and creates the dreamscape of your choice at the same time! Can it be done right when going to sleep, or is it like all the others, best during WBTB/morning?

So I can visualise in my minds eye, say my dining room in my house.
But when I do the look through my eyelids thing, I just see black and get some colours etc towards SP.
Which one should I be using? If it is the looking through eyelids at the blackness and form an image there, I have never been able to create an image on the black canvas.
How do you do it, or is it all with the minds eye?
Can anyone elaborate?

Sounds like a pretty awesome method. I almost found myself by the lake as i read it!!! Can't wait to try it.

awsome job on the titoria; when i first attempted wild i actually did this sort of but my question is are you supposed to stay totally still while doing this ? just like in a wild because when i did this my mind just went blank like my scene wich was a basketball court went black i felt like i was inside my body but couldnt do anything about it and then i didnt exactly know what to do afterthat

Originally Posted by vinn

awsome job on the titoria; when i first attempted wild i actually did this sort of but my question is are you supposed to stay totally still while doing this ? just like in a wild because when i did this my mind just went blank like my scene wich was a basketball court went black i felt like i was inside my body but couldnt do anything about it and then i didnt exactly know what to do afterthat

You should keep your real life body still but it's fine to move your dream body. In fact, I encourage you to do some sort of action in the dream. After talking to quite a few people, it has become apparent that doing drastic things off the bat isn't as bad as I'd thought. I'm currently in the middle of a re-write for this tut because of that and a few other things. But moving and doing lucid stuff should be fine as long as you keep calm and don't get too excited.

This is brilliant. Thanks for this !

I have always wanted to try VILD, it just always stuck out to me, but I never quite got it... like I somehow felt that I could do it, I think I'm pretty good at visualizing things. I just have a feeling that this is the right tech for me, you know?

Well, I will be trying this over the next week. For some reason, my recall has completely stopped for the lats couple days so when it comes back, ill be on top of this... ill try a bit anyway until then though.

Thanks!

Thanks alot !

Originally Posted by arby

After a short while, it should feel much easier to maintain. In fact, you may not even have to think about it at all to keep everything running! Now, DO NOT DO ANYTHING DARASTIC!

Sorry to seem like a jerk, but I think you might want to fix DRASTIC.
btw: This guide is great!

I hate you and I slept with your mom last night!
jk
nice guide! I'll try this tonight and over the Easter break

this question has kind of been asked a few times but mine is a little different.

i have a pretty bad recall and i usually do not remember my dream when i wake up to do WBTB. so DEILD is out of the question. with this, would you get out of bed before VILDing or would you recommend staying in bed and just start visualizing?

excellent!! One question though
I have a hard time imagining the feel of something. I can get visuals and sound very easily, I just have a hard time with imagining the way things feel. Did you already mention the exercise you had for us if we weren't good at that? Cause if you did I think I missed it. If not I would like to know how I can get better at it.

Hi, I attempted this method last night, and managed to get to the 'stabilize' phase when i fell asleep. are you supposed to try this really really tired? cuz i had trouble visualizing, but if i was awake enough to visualize, i wouldnt start dreaming...

Oh, one more thing I'd like to add, I tried this last night with a WBTB and I had three short semi-lucids (they were pretty unstable though). I can say that those are the best results I ever got on my first try of a tech.