Thread: Ninja's DEILD tutorial

So for this to work, does somebody have to realize they've woken up, even though they don't usually remember it? I go to bed late in the summer (aka the present) and wake up late-morning and usually fall back to sleep a bunch of times. Basically, I can maybe sorta kinda DEILD as soon as I awake from a mini-dream?

great guide! Will most def try it when my dream recall increases. Altough you almost make it sound easy i guess it will take some time before i get the hang on it.

Thanks, since I wrote that there has been a unified tutorial written: DEILD Tutorial

My problem with using this technique is every time I wake up, I Have to take a piss.

Originally Posted by 2Fruits

I see many DEILD Q and A that tell us how to DEILD but most of them skip over HOW to wake up after a dream. They say 'JUST DO'.

Well I don't remember it. I'm not saying I don't wake up I'm just saying I don't remember.

So please enlighten me... HOW DO I GET FROM SLEEP---> being 'aware'/'awake' but not moving?

Mantra's? Meditation??

:O Help please

nobody friggin answered her.

Originally Posted by Mkmaster2400

My problem with using this technique is every time I wake up, I Have to take a piss.

same here. but in the past when i have been able to wake up from a dream without moving and without having to go to the bathroom there were a few times i DEILDed accidentally (before i read about the technique). so it's kinda hit or miss with me unless i can learn how to be consistent with the waking up part. i hope us DEILD newbs may prevail - i'm pretty determined to.

i like to use my body clock to wake myself up, it works really well, i just have to be carful not to open my eyes.

i have a question. i think i have done this before and just continued the dream non-lucidly, how do you re-enter and kamke sure you stay lucid, because you say we wake up several times in the night, well how come we dont become lucid on those occasions?

thanks for any replies

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Now, if you haven’t moved you are almost guaranteed a lucid dream. The only way that you will not have a lucid dream is if you were at the very end of the REM cycle and your mind wants to go back to deep sleep, or you chase it away with too much complexity.

I have tried this method before, with no success, I believe because I am at the end of the rem cycle. I wake, see trailing hyp. imagery, and try to re-enter. I can prolong it for maybe 10 sec. but it fades away. How can i wake up before the rem period ends? if i use a sound alarm i wake up the gf & thats never good. I feel this could be a great technique for me cause i have super recall & can recall up to 4 dreams per night. 2 days ago i hit a record 5.

Very informative post, thanks for it. I find lucid dreams do happen much more often when you do this technique. The problem for me is its always in the mornings, and my body is less tired after all the sleep, so i end up only dreaming for about 5 minutes before i wake up to the point of no return.

This sounds like a great way to have LD's! I will try tonight as for the last while I have been waking up in the middle of the night, the very hard part will be not realy waking up and keeping still and eyes closed, just knowing I am awake. The only thing I wonder is what if you have a dream when you wake up, wouldnt you want to write this down to remember bacause you will risk losing it wont you? I supose you risk loosing that dream for a LD... prolly a good trade haha

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Now, if you haven’t moved you are almost guaranteed a lucid dream. The only way that you will not have a lucid dream is if you were at the very end of the REM cycle and your mind wants to go back to deep sleep, or you chase it away with too much complexity.

got a reply from 'illegal dreams', but i dont think he addressed the issue (sorry). How do you wake b4 the dream ends (without sound) in order to re-enter.

This isn't working for me. I lie there still with my eyes closed for ten minutes after waking from my dream and I hear its not supposed to take that long and absolutely nothing happens. Its so frustrating please help. I get frustrated since I know its not working but technically im doing nothing wrong am I missing something?

Originally Posted by cygnus

nobody friggin answered her.

Nobody understood him! Is it just reapeating a mantra like "When I hear the alarm, I will stay still"? I just seem not to wake up... Anyway with no help I will try this 1 tonight.

Thanks ninja I got immediate results

Ninja9578 said they use a watch. What type of watch do you use ninja? Or does anyone know what type of watch turns itself off?

I use a watch that alarms on the hour every hour and the alarm shuts off after a few seconds. It should be a vibrating alarm, not an audible one.

This technique is for the more experienced i imagine

Originally Posted by JapJap

This technique is for the more experienced i imagine

I got it to work my first attempt, I think its easier than WILD. But harder than DILD.

Yeah, not really advanced. The only difficult part is catching yourself right when you wake up, before you move.

The problem for me, is that I struggle to remember my dreams after waking up. Like I have good recall, but it takes me thinking about my dreams for a while to remember them, I feel like if I lie there for a few minutes remembering my dreams it'd wake me up to much. Do you recomend just creating a new scenario, or?

Haha, well I've been trying deild for a while now, and I've had moderate success I guess. I can stay still fine, but I just can't transition? I'll get hallucinations, like once the whole house started shaking, and I was like vibrating. And once this thing was dragging across the floor, making really scary noises, and then I felt it climb into bed. I told myself it was all a dream. But the stuff eventually faded, and It just didn't work.
Do I watch the hallucinations, and pay attention to them? Do I keep visualising when this happens? Do I stop when this happens?

I will feel vibrations like a wild right?

Also, it is fine to wake myself with an alarm in the beginning/middle of an rem stage, correct?

I have a few questions:

1. When I drink a lot of water before sleeping, I will wake up in my next REM cycle. Do I wake up at the very beginning or the end of the cycle?

2. What is the best time for DEILD? At the beginning or the end of an REM cycle (once I figured out when they happen)?

3. I have multiple cycles of REM in a night, should i set my DEILD alarm in the early or later ones?

This is ridiculious, questions haven't been answered since the 18/9.
If you're going to have a guide, you could at least attempt to help people who took the time to read your work.

I've bookmarked this, it's helped me understand alot more, so much so that I know how to do it now. Thanks, brilliant tutorial