Dear Windhover

Will you do me a favour?

I get mixed-up and confused (easy) when trying to navigate around this huge Dreamviews site. I followed your link. But can't find the Thread you want me to read. Could you link me to one thread.

If you like, please open a thread, yourself, and we can talk about the NEW IOSDP (International oneironaut Shared Dreaming Project). I want to understand it and play, (do it).

Will you help me, Windhover?

Quote Originally Posted by Windhover@ View Post
I don't mean to offend you guys here but folks... IOSDP. IOSDP everywhere. http://www.dreamviews.com/f144
plz check out once? please?

I really like the idea of making a password Mindcracker, it would be better if we have SD and confirm it in a sufficient way.
But... I don't want you to make failure like we did in IOSDP.

First, you are focusing on getting to a place, not meeting a person. This would be 'shared themed dreaming', not 'SHARED dream'.

Well, I'll tell you a story... For half a year IOSDP members tried to meet at Chicen Itza pyramid. All of them.. about 50 members I assume. I think I made it to the pyramid while I was lucid for 5 times succesfully during the half year. I think I made over 50 times attempting to go to the pyramid while lucid, but failed. In the 5 times I never met anyone and failed SDing.
I think only one case was successful SDing at the pyramid - this one member met a woman holding a baby at the top of pyramid... Well. only one successful SD attempt during a half year.

The meeting place itself make people a connection somehow, but it literally does not make you share dream with each other.

So we changed the Chicen Itza pyramid to Giza pyramid. More simple and everyone knows Giza Pyramids at Egypt.
The first night, Katsuno, Aeolar and I had a very big synch (fight with enemies in a closed space, and Katsuno and Aeolar were at the same place I think) We didn't managed to go to the pyramids but we somehow had a synch.
But it doesn't still define a shared dream, we rather had a 'same themed' SD.

So we realized that getting to a meeting place is ACTUALLY HARD if you are not good at achieving lucidity. Like Mzzck said, this was the biggest failure in IOSDP project. So we stopped meeting at place, instead we worked on getting lucid.

Lucidity is not required for SDing. However it allows us to find a specific person thru dream, Nomad said that.

So another half year I attempted finding a specific person while lucid for about 10 times I think, but almost of them I failed.... is it because the person lives far away and we don't sleep at the same time? (the person I tried to find lived in England)
(We've managed to find each other on the same night though, we were at the same place - school.)

What is a 'shared dream', really? Is it just having a 'meshing' dream, dreaming the same factor, a share dream? Is finding a specific person while lucid, and meet each other SHARING information, and then when you wake up you confirm the same exact place/ feature you saw/ conversation you heard a shared dream?

As of now I think the second question is right.
So whatever you're doing now for proving a SDing.... don't make failures every night, eventually becoming frustrated... and then conclude that 'SD is not real'. Of course password idea is still good - I really didn't try to prove SD because I only focused on getting lucid and or finding a specific person in dream.

We're starting a new SD project in IOSDP soon, based on all failures we've experienced we're gonna brainstorm ideas there to have real shared dream. We might include the password idea. So if you're interested, please join
And "Password" participants

I am thinking of choosing a night. Maybe ... ummm ... what's today? It's nearly 10 PM Thursday 26-July here, now. So I pick Wednesday 1-August. I'll make an incubation affirmation to zero-in on remembered dreams of that night.

I'll use Dale Graff's incubation advice.